Returntoglory Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Who is with JA on the sidelines to keep his head in check? To talk him down or talk him up? It's obvious to everyone that Josh has free reign to do what he pleases with apparently no restrictions. Crazy high-risk throws and disregard for his body. McD does not seem to talk with him during the game. I say bring someone in that states by his side and keeps his head in check. Fitz would be a perfect candidate! 4 9 Quote
Mango Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Kyle Shanahan. And he wouldn’t be a QB coach, he’d be the head coach. If there was a way to get it done, at just about any cost other than trading away Allen, I’d likely pay it. 1 2 Quote
Success Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 There was someting magical about the Allen/Daboll relationship. It's a rare one in football, imo. Opposing fans have been saying that Allen is regressing without Daboll. It's hard to argue right now - though he was brilliant for long stretches last season. 5 1 Quote
Einstein Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Success said: There was someting magical about the Allen/Daboll relationship. It's a rare one in football, imo. I agree. I fully recognize that it sounds ridiculous and there is little (or perhaps zero) precedence for it, but we should have let McDermott go and kept Daboll. 3 1 Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 This is just ridiculous with Allen at this point. He's in his 6th year. This feels like Trent Edwards again where we're constantly concerned about his mindset. 1 1 1 Quote
DapperCam Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Isn’t that supposed to be Joe Brady? If Dorsey is still floundering halfway through the season, I’m assuming he will be the interim OC. Quote
Success Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: This is just ridiculous with Allen at this point. He's in his 6th year. This feels like Trent Edwards again where we're constantly concerned about his mindset. I'd say that's more a reflection on the fans than on Allen. 1 Quote
BBFL Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) Don’t usually like Colin Cowherd but he said two things that got me thinking… ”Josh is a heavyweight fighter who lost his cornerman…” “The greatest talents need someone in the sidecar…” This isn’t a Daboll retread comment but something went wrong when those two separated. Josh is rather sloppy with his mechanics by the general consensus of gurus. There is a major concern here that after the past few outings the wheels are starting to vibrate. God help this franchise again if they come off… Something needs to be done. Maybe he goes back to working with Jordan Palmer? Maybe we bring in some seasoned and regimented offensive coordination? Either way, Josh needs something different in his corner cause this past year of football has way too many ups and downs in his play. Edited September 12, 2023 by BBFL 1 2 1 Quote
K D Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 He needs a sports psychologist. He said he hasn't tried one. Seems like an obvious thing to try. Instead of/in addition to he should try hypnosis. They can get people to stop being self destructive. That's exactly what Josh is doing. Some kind of mental block where he seeks chaos or something. I see it in my wife's friends. They won't date nice guys, too boring, they have to go for a-holes because they enjoy the drama! 2 1 Quote
Low Positive Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, BBFL said: Don’t usually like Colin Cowherd but he said something that got me thinking… ”Josh is a heavyweight fighter who lost his cornerman” This isn’t a Daboll retread comment but something went wrong when those two separated. Josh is rather sloppy with his mechanics by the general consensus of gurus. There is a major concern here that after the past few outings the wheels are starting to vibrate. God help this franchise again if they come off… Something needs to be done. Maybe he goes back to working with Jordan Palmer? Maybe we bring in some seasoned and regimented offensive coordination? Either way, Josh needs something different in his corner cause this past year of football has way too many ups and downs in his play. People misremember the 2021 season. All they remember is the perfect game and the 13 seconds game. The Bills were 7-6 after week 14. They scored 6 points against the Jags. He's always been hot and cold, even with Daboll. 8 2 1 Quote
DeltaDigital Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 had one. his name was brian daboll. should have shown clapdick the door, and promoted dabs. Quote
Donuts and Doritos Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Said in a soft voice: "We love you Josh. Stop throwing interceptions. We love you Josh. Stop taking unnecessary hits. We love you Josh. Slide or step out of bounds. We love you Josh. Secure the GD football. We love you Josh. Take the easy 5 yd pass for Christ sake. We love you Josh. Please throw the ball a little faster We love you Josh. Switch to decaf & no sugar on game day. We love you Josh. Let's work a bit more in the off-season & eat healthier. We love you Josh. Maybe get a haircut. We love you Josh." So did I get the job? 3 2 Quote
K D Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Donuts and Doritos said: Said in a soft voice: "We love you Josh. Stop throwing interceptions. We love you Josh. Stop taking unnecessary hits. We love you Josh. Slide or step out of bounds. We love you Josh. Secure the GD football. We love you Josh. Take the easy 5 yd pass for Christ sake. We love you Josh. Please throw the ball a little faster We love you Josh. Switch to decaf & no sugar on game day. We love you Josh. Let's work a bit more in the off-season & eat healthier. We love you Josh. Maybe get a haircut. We love you Josh." So did I get the job? Sir, this is a Wendy's drive-thru 8 Quote
UKBillFan Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, KDIGGZ said: Sir, this is a Wendy's drive-thru Things haven't got THAT bad for Josh, have they? Quote
Trust The Process Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Allen regressed under Dorsey. Allen needs a premier OC, one that he respects and is held accountable. Dorsey is Allen's buddy and does what he pleases. Daboll on the other hand is someone who Allen respected, someone who coached up Allen. 2 1 1 Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: People misremember the 2021 season. All they remember is the perfect game and the 13 seconds game. The Bills were 7-6 after week 14. They scored 6 points against the Jags. He's always been hot and cold, even with Daboll. I 100% agree. Daboll took the same flak for jet sweeps that would come and go, abandoning the run, sticking in 4-wide/5-wide all game (always in Shotgun) of course. Now I would agree Dorsey is worse in terms of play-flow, for instance after the first first down in the game, he runs Cook twice and puts the team in 3rd down, after the first two plays (slant to Diggs and pass to Harty) working easily. Just now, Trust The Process said: Allen regressed under Dorsey. Allen needs a premier OC, one that he respects and is held accountable. Dorsey is Allen's buddy and does what he pleases. Daboll on the other hand is someone who Allen respected, someone who coached up Allen. I just don't buy any of this. "Held accountable" - give me a break. 1 1 Quote
ALG1130 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: People misremember the 2021 season. All they remember is the perfect game and the 13 seconds game. The Bills were 7-6 after week 14. They scored 6 points against the Jags. He's always been hot and cold, even with Daboll. This is true, but Daboll flat out said he had to pull Allen aside, sit him down, make him watch videos of all the incredible plays he makes and remind him how special he is. He said Josh was borderline despondent. He could show a lot of tough love, but he was able to reel Josh back in and help him get his head straight. 2 1 Quote
Low Positive Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: I 100% agree. Daboll took the same flak for jet sweeps that would come and go, abandoning the run, sticking in 4-wide/5-wide all game (always in Shotgun) of course. Now I would agree Dorsey is worse in terms of play-flow, for instance after the first first down in the game, he runs Cook twice and puts the team in 3rd down, after the first two plays (slant to Diggs and pass to Harty) working easily. It's basically the same playbook. Quote
UKBillFan Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Aimee75 said: This is true, but Daboll flat out said he had to pull Allen aside, sit him down, make him watch videos of all the incredible plays he makes and remind him how special he is. He said Josh was borderline despondent. He could show a lot of tough love, but he was able to reel Josh back in and help him get his head straight. Dorsey was in the quarterback room at the time so must know that might be needed at some point. 1 Quote
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