ChronicAndKnuckles Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 I’ll reserve my right to answer this until the end of the season. Bengals started out 4-4 last year. Chiefs dropped their first game to the freakin Lions. Let’s see if they can rebound. I doubt the Jets will go far with Zach Wilson. We’ll most likely have to split a head to head tie breaker with Miami for the division. Quote
Not at the table Karlos Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 I haven't in a while. They're missing something. Not sure what exactly. Tim Graham said football IQ maybe it's that. Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 I was done with McDermott when I witnessed him butcher 13 seconds. Since then he's been getting a pass by at least 60% of this fan base. Time for processes are over. The culture has been established. But organizational mistakes both with personnel and game day calls has set this team back. Good coaching matters. Until this ownership hires a dynamic offensive minded HC it will be rinse & repeat. 2 1 2 Quote
newcam2012 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 2 hours ago, HIT BY SPIKES said: I always attempt to show some restraint not to over react to just one game negatively or positively however the pattern is pretty obvious now. 13 seconds Bengals Play-offs' earlier this year Last night (name to follow) We find ways to lose. I appreciate to the fans who have lived through the dark ages post-Jimbo have an admiration for this current Bills regime for getting us back into the play-offs on a regular basis, securing a true franchise QB and bringing Buffalo Proud back to the Buffalo Bills fandom. I get that. "Saviours" may be too highly a label to bestow upon this regime given Terry Pegula already took that title for first buying the Buffalo Sabres and then the Buffalo Bills and securing their futures in Buffalo. I also get that. However: (1) Does Sean McDermott have what it takes to win the biggest games? (2) Sean McDermott is said to be a defensive minded coach and has been there for a number of years banging the table for an one sided investment of high draft picks, salary cap and free agency pursuits into the defensive side of the ball yet our defence and special teams continue to collapse in pivotal times of key games. Why? (3) Is Beane's inability to build an average NFL OL to give our franchise QB an extra 1/4 second to scan the field before making a decision to pass, run or throw the ball away or to allow us to run the ball successfully when we have a 10 point lead a fundamental obstacle to this regimes ability to finally deliver us a Buffalo Bills Super Bowl Championship? (4) Do you still TRUST THE PROCESSTM? No! Quote
starrymessenger Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Idk about the process but sometimes I think McD is fundamentally different, philosophically and temperamentally, than his stars on offence, who are high strung and sometimes overly aggressive. I wonder whether some of his in game decisions can have an adverse effect on momentum. I could be wrong but I didn’t agree with the decision to decline the 10 yard penalty in favour of forcing a fourth down and field goal attempt. To me it shows a lack of appreciation of the risk/reward profile. The most likely outcome if you accept the call is that the field goal attempt must negotiate a longer distance. Maybe doesn’t mean that much given the field position but I’d take it. After that there is probably as much a chance of a TO than there is of Wilson being able to accomplish a long third down conversion. This is Wilson, not Arod. Those three points were given away and they wound up being important. Quote
Teddy KGB Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 3 hours ago, MAJBobby said: I think we have a very good FO. I am unsure about the HC I have no issues with the Ownership what’s the FO good at ? 1 1 Quote
Low Positive Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 I never really did, but I have no choice but to be along for the ride as I have no power to change anything. If I were running this team I would have brought in some players with a nasty edge in the offseason, process be damned. This team lacks violence and swagger outside of Milano. Nobody is scared to play the Bills. 1 Quote
newcam2012 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: This has been the second best run of bills success in my lifetime. Last night sucked and it could come back to haunt us at the end of the season. but some of you need Xanax. I just think many can see the writing on the wall sort of speak. Of course we Bills fans will hope for the best and still cling to the idea of winning it all. As each season passes under this regime it seemingly looks like that's not going to happen. At the very least blown opportunities to reach their goal. Yesterday was a blunt illustration of this. That's how I feel and i don't need a xanax either. Quote
HIT BY SPIKES Posted September 12, 2023 Author Posted September 12, 2023 3 hours ago, MPL said: I think the process was just a 5-year-plan to turn the team around, which it did. But now we're in year 6 and there is no process anymore. Makes sense. We don't want the Bills to ultra-processed like a hot dog or a frozen meal. https://www.prevention.com/food-nutrition/a42790639/what-are-ultra-processed-foods/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=arb_ga_pre_md_pmx_ca_urlx_20300231468&gclid=Cj0KCQjwmICoBhDxARIsABXkXlJFSYhO9TzG0GdCKdy5X2OiEGY6mmio3_pjYTX2kbbGGpmPGQUWoYcaAhJeEALw_wcB 3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: This has been the second best run of bills success in my lifetime. Last night sucked and it could come back to haunt us at the end of the season. but some of you need Xanax. Can I have a bunch from your personal supply so I can get comfortably numb for Bills games? Quote
HIT BY SPIKES Posted September 12, 2023 Author Posted September 12, 2023 2 hours ago, JerseyBills said: I'm not sure how to feel but i disagree about D and ST. The defense allowed 16 points. ST have generally been lights out. True. After that last play in OT where the Jets scored a TD the New Jersey stadium crew did quickly put the lights out. Quote
Low Positive Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 3 hours ago, MPL said: I think the process was just a 5-year-plan to turn the team around, which it did. But now we're in year 6 and there is no process anymore. Like Soviet 5-year plans? In that case, we should have sandbagged it for 2 years to get the plan lowered and then stormed for a year to achieve the 5-year plan in 3. I mean, it creates massive supply chain bottlenecks, but who cares as long as the factory manager gets a dacha? 1 Quote
HIT BY SPIKES Posted September 12, 2023 Author Posted September 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: I was waiting for this thread.......😉🤣 You are welcome. 1 hour ago, mrags said: No. and why is this not a poll? Because I don't know how and I was too busy drinking beer heavily in an attempt to self-sooth away the pain from last night's game. 1 Quote
newcam2012 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: I was done with McDermott when I witnessed him butcher 13 seconds. Since then he's been getting a pass by at least 60% of this fan base. Time for processes are over. The culture has been established. But organizational mistakes both with personnel and game day calls has set this team back. Good coaching matters. Until this ownership hires a dynamic offensive minded HC it will be rinse & repeat. I've been saying this for two years. No need for pats on the back here. I'm just pleased others are finally starting to see it too. 57 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: I never really did, but I have no choice but to be along for the ride as I have no power to change anything. If I were running this team I would have brought in some players with a nasty edge in the offseason, process be damned. This team lacks violence and swagger outside of Milano. Nobody is scared to play the Bills. Soft is a good word to use. I got crucified for comparing this team to the Chargers. How ironic after week one both teams indeed couldn't finish their games. Quote
The Jokeman Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 The season is a marathon not a sprint. Sure this one hurts but it's one game of 17..would you rather have beaten the Jets and lost Josh Allen to a season ending injury? Not me. 1 Quote
bmur66 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 If the goal of the process is to win a superbowl then no. if the goal is to be a perennial contender then maybe. Quote
Rocbillsfan1 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 I’m in the minority but I stopped trusting the process in the snow game year 1 when McDermott didn’t go for it deep in Indi territory on 4th and 1 in a game they had to win because a tie results in no playoff and he punted the ball. Guy has been the same conservative loser since he took over and he still hasn’t learned a god dam thing. 1 1 1 Quote
CircleTheWagons99 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 The process broke when 13 seconds happend. Quote
GunnerBill Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 5 hours ago, MAJBobby said: I think we have a very good FO. I am unsure about the HC I have no issues with the Ownership I think we have a very good HC and am unsure about the FO. But ultimately none of that matters unless Josh sorts himself out. Quote
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