Terry Pegula is ALLEGED to have said something very foul in the Jim Trotter lawsuit against the NFL

[Brand J]

Terry seems like a stand up guy and I can’t picture him saying something like this, even in an off-color joking manner. I’ll stand by his side unless there’s recorded proof. Trotter better hope there is.

[appoo]

3 minutes ago, Brother Hesekiah said:

Have people not learned anything from the Matt Araiza situation? Just because someone alleges something in a court filing (particularly an initial complaint), it doesn't automatically mean it's true.  

Just to be clear, this is MASSIVELY different from the Araiza situation, where there was not only actual evidence that suggested wrong doing, but something like 95% of women's complaints in those situations turn out to be accurate

Edited September 12, 2023 by appoo

[McDeerInTheHeadlights]

8 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

 

Are all the overreactors going to reel themselves back in now? Or are we going with "why would someone in a lawsuit ever make ***** up" lol.

 

Exactly. Bills fans should remember what happened with Araiza. Pump on those brakes once upon a time.

[Bubba Gump]

Disgusting. All I can say if true. 

 

 

 

[Einstein]

55 minutes ago, Rhyno716 said:

What a dumb *****. There is no defending this.

 

Yeah, if true, there is no way to spin this.

[BuffaloBillyG]

5 minutes ago, appoo said:

There's literally 0 evidence of Pegula harboring these kinds of thoughts, while we multiple pieces of evidence that Terry is on the pro side of the racial justice debate

Valid point. And if it turns out the statement if false that would be magnificent and Terry should pursue legal action to the fullest extent of the law. 

 

However, the flip side may be that if it's true Terry wouldn't exactly be the first person that had private opinion that differs from public persona either. 

 

As of now it's a he said/he said. Let's see where it goes before condemning or defending.

[Bray Wyatt]

17 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Why would he pick Pegula to bring down? If he wanted to bring down the NFL, he would make up a story about the Bills' owner?

 I believe he is like the 5th richest owner

[BullBuchanan]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I don’t think the comment was even racist. It was an incredibly dumb and insensitive comment.

YIKES.

I'm not shocked that society can't have a meaningful discussion about institutional racism when actual - "GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM" xenophobia just goes straight through folks in 2023.

[mannc]

We'll have to see if there is a recording.  Nowadays, when someone quotes specific language in a lawsuit, there is frequently a recording to back it up.

[Low Positive]

If he said it in this meeting. it was held over Zoom and was probably recorded

https://jaguarswire.usatoday.com/2020/06/25/nfl-owners-to-hold-virtual-meeting-thursday-to-discuss-social-justice-2020-season/

[John from Riverside]

My heart just doesn’t want to believe that he said this
 

So I’m gonna wait for some kind of proof that he actually did

[UKBillFan]

1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Valid point. And if it turns out the statement if false that would be magnificent and Terry should pursue legal action to the fullest extent of the law. 

 

However, the flip side may be that if it's true Terry wouldn't exactly be the first person that had private opinion that differs from public persona either. 

 

As of now it's a he said/he said. Let's see where it goes before condemning or defending.

 

The two key for me are that the lawsuit directly quotes Pegula. It doesn't say, "is reported to have said" or "was suggested". He's quoted verbatim. However, Pegula has come out quickly to rebuke the accusation.

 

If Pegula is found out to be lying he will be hauled over the coals and rightly so. If it's Trotter, probably nothing will happen.

[Peter]

Two points:

 

1) Don't believe everything you read in a complaint. We will see whether there is any evidence to back this up. It sure does not sound like Terry given everything we know about him. Also, let's not forget that he is married to a minority and didn't one of his daughters date Jason Croom. The allegation could be true, but we should wait to see how this develops before trashing the guy.

 

2) I am surprised that some here and the guys on WGR are not trying to blame Dorsey for this given that they think he is responsible for everything that is bad in this world from Josh throwing three interceptions to Russia invading the Ukraine.

[Lost]

4 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

YIKES.

I'm not shocked that society can't have a meaningful discussion about institutional racism when actual - "GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM" xenophobia just goes straight through folks in 2023.

 

Well plenty of fans here are calling for McDermott to go back to Carolina where he came from 😂

[TheBrownBear]

2 minutes ago, mannc said:

We'll have to see if there is a recording.  Nowadays, when someone quotes specific language in a lawsuit, there is frequently a recording to back it up.

I doubt there is or it would likely be noted in the complaint (or it honestly would have already been leaked and the case settled).  You throw everything out there in the complaint and hope public opinion applies enough pressure to get the NFL to settle.

[Pecos Bills]

1 minute ago, UKBillFan said:

 

The two key for me are that the lawsuit directly quotes Pegula. It doesn't say, "is reported to have said" or "was suggested". He's quoted verbatim. However, Pegula has come out quickly to rebuke the accusation.

 

If Pegula is found out to be lying he will be hauled over the coals and rightly so. If it's Trotter, probably nothing will happen.

Here's some of the fuller text from the lawsuit, in which an NFL Media reporter describes a separate conversation with Pegula:

 

126. During the meeting, an NFL Media reporter described a conversation he had with Buffalo Bills owner Terry Pegula in which Mr. Pegula was speaking about the recent emphasis on social activism by NFL players, and in particular support for Black Lives Matter.

127. As reported, Mr. Pegula stated that, “If the Black players don’t like it here, they should go back to Africa and see how bad it is.” 

 

https://www.wigdorlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Trotter-Complaint.pdf

[Buffalo_Stampede]

4 minutes ago, appoo said:

The ALLEGED comment was pure racism from a xenophobic place

Racism to me is hateful action or speech.

 

I don’t think the comment is meant to be hateful.

[Wayne Arnold]

4 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:

Terry seems like a stand up guy and I can’t picture him saying something like this, even in an off-color joking manner. I’ll stand by his side unless there’s recorded proof. Trotter better hope there is.

 

He's an awkward billionaire who has a history of putting his foot in his mouth. I can absolutely see him saying something like this.

[Tommy Callahan]

he is probably filing a slander lawsuit as we speak.

 

 

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

12 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

What leads you to suspect it is true?  If he didn’t say it, why would he admit it and apologize?

Because it is, frankly, completely reckless, irresponsible, and inexplicable to completely make up quotes and attribute them to someone without justification in a lawsuit. It's legal suicide. And if he did take the irrational step to make up quotes, why would he pick Pegula to attribute them to? Of all the owners, why would he pick Pegula to target?

 

This isn't some wild take. I think it's more likely than not to be true, unfortunately, but unless there is a recording, it's not surprising at all that Terry would deny. That would be expected, unless he were more committed to telling the truth than keeping his name clean.