Terry Pegula is ALLEGED to have said something very foul in the Jim Trotter lawsuit against the NFL

[Mango]

28 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

So Trotter is lying in so far as the law suit is the only place where he's made the allegation and he never actually insisted to the league that Terry in fact made those comments. Got it. 

I don’t know what to tell you man. 
 

Trotter filed a report about an allegation somebody else made to his employer. Trotter is saying that his employer didn’t investigate it and instead retaliated. Under those circumstances the language in the report is protected. 
 

That seems fair. The issue is with the league. 
 

Based on Goodells recent comments that contradict each other by saying they both have looked into this and will look into this to see if it here is any evidence, the leaguer messed up. 
 

HR is there to protect the company. Doesn’t sound like they did. Now here we are.

[Coach Tuesday]

2 hours ago, Dukestreetking said:

Coach: spot on w all of your analysis, including re Wigdor. Many thanks. Brief thought to add:

 

The case theory, per Statement, is strange: NFL as a "system"--owners, coaches, corporate, media leadership--is discriminatory, and profoundly centralized.

 

Simplistically put: because the system is so, my employment was not re-newed, I was harmed during my tenure, etc. Textually, they are linked.

 

And here's the things that support my theory of systemic bias: Gruden, my own management, Pegula, etc.

 

Given this, I would think he has to "prove" a preponderance of the beams and cement exist (i.e., allegations) in order to demonstrate the superstructure (i.e., system). I could be wrong, but that's the way it presents.

 

I won't get into the Causes of Action.

 

Anyway, I believe it's a flawed overall strategy. There's a skinnier way to get from A to B. This is to say nothing of the fact pattern issues.

 

@Bob Jones I'm not a lawyer but b/c of my background in a certain field, I review these all the time for case and deposition strategy/tactics, blah, blah.

 

You are exactly right and the converse is true - if he can't prove any of his key "beams," it will negatively affect his credibility and could rot the entire foundation.  That's one reason that terrorist pleading like Wigdor does is so dangerous for his own clients.  All of the extraneous crap has to be proved up or it impacts the plaintiff's credibility and can affect the whole case - and much of it isn't even necessary to the case (but it helps Wigdor brand his firm).

[Buffalo03]

1 hour ago, Motorin' said:

 

So Trotter is lying in so far as the law suit is the only place where he's made the allegation and he never actually insisted to the league that Terry in fact made those comments. Got it. 

Trotter is bitter about losing his job at NFL Network. He got laid off when they did the lay offs a few months back and blamed it on him being black

[Motorin']

30 minutes ago, Mango said:

I don’t know what to tell you man. 
 

Trotter filed a report about an allegation somebody else made to his employer. Trotter is saying that his employer didn’t investigate it and instead retaliated. Under those circumstances the language in the report is protected. 
 

That seems fair. The issue is with the league. 
 

Based on Goodells recent comments that contradict each other by saying they both have looked into this and will look into this to see if it here is any evidence, the leaguer messed up. 
 

HR is there to protect the company. Doesn’t sound like they did. Now here we are.

 

So the league saying it was investigated, found nothing, but will look again is a contradiction?

 

Sounds like a narrative someone made up for clicks. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, uticaclub said:

Pain? Trotter has nothing to lose and the more Terry sues him, the more he will look like a martyr while Pegula looks like an old white racist in the media, regardless of the facts.

Lawsuits are a painful nuisance. If you getting sued, You need a lawyer, you might have court dates, you might actually lose and owe sone money… 

 

I wouldn’t do it because I cared about wining, I’d do it because how dare that ####### lie about me and brand me a bigot? Time to make his life hell. 

[Buffalo03]

13 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Even if Terry didn’t do it, he should get his players together and say that he apologizes for the distraction

What? Why? This would be like saying that a guy that's falsely accused of sexual assault or rape should just apologize and admit guilt anyway for all the women that do get sexually assaulted and raped. It's stupid lol

[Nebillzfan]

I swear someone else said this awhile back like Dan Snyder or something. It could have been Jerry Jones. I just thought I remeber it being said by someone not Terry by any means. 

[Just in Atlanta]

17 hours ago, ToGoGo said:

 

The quote sounds like something a black person thinks a white person would say. I don’t buy it either.
 

At worst, some sort of terrible misinterpretation. People who are messed up in the head often mishear things by other people. Happens all the time. 

As for the quote thing, that was my thought as well. I've never heard anyone say that before, except in a Public Enemy album. 

 

But then again, I was called a "honkey" recently. Thought that word retired in the 70s. What a weird thing to call someone. 

[Mr. WEO]

59 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

Trotter is bitter about losing his job at NFL Network. He got laid off when they did the lay offs a few months back and blamed it on him being black

 

He didn't get laid off.

 

Has no one read this complaint?  Or any of the many press reports of why he filed the suit?

 

Of course not---why read it?

[Just in Atlanta]

Google his name - 10 out of 10 news articles and nearly everything above the fold on a regular search has this accusation in it.

 

In an age of Google, all it takes is a second-hand accusation. It will take years to clear his name on the Internet zeitgeist. 

[phypon]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Are you surprised?  WEO believes everyone accused of something is guilty and/or has no defensed.  Except Bobby Kraft...

Weo and buchanan HAVE to think he's guilty.  There is no innocence!  

[Pecos Bills]

1 minute ago, Just in Atlanta said:

Google his name - 10 out of 10 news articles and nearly everything above the fold on a regular search has this accusation in it.

 

In an age of Google, all it takes is a second-hand accusation. It will take years to clear his name on the Internet zeitgeist. 

Is it surprising that the top news results on a topic are all related to that topic's big news story that came out literally yesterday?  I'd be surprised if fewer than 9 of 10 searches for "Terry Pegula" today were looking for anything else.  His statement on the Bills official page is #3 in my google news search, for what it's worth.  Sure, "the internet is forever," but online search results are constantly changing, and this story will stay relevant or fade away depending on how it plays out.

[Peter]

2 hours ago, Mango said:

An attorney over an Sabrespace has mentioned a few times that the “quote” from Pegula has immunity.

 

 

 

Suits has been trending and now we are all internet lawyers.

 

Can’t wait until @HOUSE starts trending again and we can all trade in our (myself included) internet law degrees for internet medical degrees.

We shall see whether Trotter and his lawyers dare to repeat their allegation in a press conference or outside the courtroom.

 

I suspect that they will not or do everything they can to avoid doing so. That should tell us something about what they think of the allegations.

2 hours ago, Pecos Bills said:

This thread has so many instances of

"he has an Asian wife and children so he can't be racist"/

"his daughter dated a black player so he can't be racist"

that I almost wonder if you're all cribbing from the same substack or what? 🤨

 

 

So what you are saying is that none of that has any bearing on whether Pegula actually is a racist or that he only is a racist when he allegedly said something that Trotter never heard and the NFL investigation confirmed that no one else heard it at the time.

 

Interesting take.

[Buffalo03]

33 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

He didn't get laid off.

 

Has no one read this complaint?  Or any of the many press reports of why he filed the suit?

 

Of course not---why read it?

They did a bunch of lay offs. Which technically is the same as being fired. He was in the group of people that got let go. They didn't let him go by himself

[Peter]

11 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

They did a bunch of lay offs. Which technically is the same as being fired. He was in the group of people that got let go. They didn't let him go by himself

It is my understanding his contract was not renewed.  

[Buffalo03]

1 minute ago, Peter said:

It is my understanding his contract was not renewed.  

And the NFL Network was letting a group of people go which included Rachel Bonnetta and some others and he was part of that group. I don't know if all their contracts were up and they were cutting back on staff or what. All I know is, they didn't let him go separately from other people. He was part of a group that they let go a few months back

[Doc]

17 minutes ago, Peter said:

It is my understanding his contract was not renewed.  

 

What's the difference?  In either case he wasn't being brought back.

[GoBills808]

That doesn't sound like Terry

 

it's grammatically correct and everything

[Motorin']

3 hours ago, uticaclub said:

Pain? Trotter has nothing to lose and the more Terry sues him, the more he will look like a martyr while Pegula looks like an old white racist in the media, regardless of the facts.

 

Who is the "unnamed" reporter that claims to have heard it first hand, and why are they afraid to speak up and demand Terry be held accountable? 

 

Sounds like a classic case of bull ***** to me. Actually can't tell if it's more chicken ***** than it is bull *****. 

 

 

[Peter]

7 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

What's the difference?  In either case he wasn't being brought back.

 

He had no guaranty that his contract would be renewed. 

 

If you are under contract, you have the expectation that your employment will last until the expiration of the contract and, if you are fired, you will still receive your salary unless you breached the contract.

 

I don't currently have a contract with the NFL Network . . . and neither does Trotter.

26 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

And the NFL Network was letting a group of people go which included Rachel Bonnetta and some others and he was part of that group. I don't know if all their contracts were up and they were cutting back on staff or what. All I know is, they didn't let him go separately from other people. He was part of a group that they let go a few months back

 

I wonder what the demographics were of the others. Probably most the same as Rachel Bonneta. 

 

Trotter has an uphill battle.