Saint Doug Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, BobbyC81 said: Having served on a jury a couple years ago, I would be very concerned to have my future determined by a group of “my peers”. In jury deliberations, discussing the believability of a young female witness, a fellow juror actually said this: ”I raised 2 daughters and I could tell if they were lying or not. They wouldn’t lie to me anyways. “ I know exactly when my daughter’s lying. Anytime she’s talking. 2 Quote
Meatloaf63 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said: For the record, I wouldn't care if he said exactly what was stated in the complaint. That falls into one of those "true things that we're not supposed to say out loud" category, and I just can't bring myself to worry about stuff like that. There are a lot people on here who are going to rip you to pieces over that statement. Something tells me you don’t care about that. 👍 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: But you realize it won’t be the government asked to decide on the accuracy of those statements, right? It will be a 6-12 person civil jury made up of people like you and me…I would hope they are in fact bound by those presumptions, otherwise they don’t even need to hear any evidence (which in turn must pass basic rules of reliability/admissibility) first? Of course you’re entitled to your opinions, but I’m just asking the board at large to consider that what happens in the court of public opinion often turns out to be premature and just flat wrong after legal process has wrapped. Pegula isn't party to the suit. A jury will be asked to decide if the NFL retaliated (I guess?) against Trotter and backed out of some verbal deal to renew his contract based on what he asked Goodell multiple times in public (NOT related to Pegula comments). Not sure why everyone keeps assuming otherwise. Doesn't matter fort Pegula anyway--the plaintiff will be deposed under oath, Pegs never will. He can simply deny he said it as he has and no one will challenge him legally. People will believe him or not. He faces no consequences for denying if he actually said it. What else would he do? 1 Quote
stevestojan Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 53 minutes ago, Bob Jones said: Hey, don’t forget about Beane, McClappy, and Dorsey!!! Apologies. There’s been a lot of hate here in the past 18 hours. Tough to keep up. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 38 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: There are a lot people on here who are going to rip you to pieces over that statement. Something tells me you don’t care about that. 👍 🍿 🍿 Quote
Chaos Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 This is insane. The title of this must be changed. Pegula was not "Quoted". A proper heading would be Trotter lawsuit ALLEGES racist comments by Terry Pegula. This title is so misleading 80% of the posters in this thread don't seem to know, after investigation, this allegation is debunked. 3 1 Quote
Dick_Cheney Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 46 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said: For the record, I wouldn't care if he said exactly what was stated in the complaint. That falls into one of those "true things that we're not supposed to say out loud" category, and I just can't bring myself to worry about stuff like that. Congratulations, you are a racist. 3 1 1 2 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Chaos said: This is insane. The title of this must be changed. Pegula was not "Quoted". A proper heading would be Trotter lawsuit ALLEGES racist comments by Terry Pegula. This title is so misleading 80% of the posters in this thread don't seem to know, after investigation, this allegation is debunked. there already was an NFL investigation...yet here we are... 1 Quote
Best Williams Available Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 57 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said: For the record, I wouldn't care if he said exactly what was stated in the complaint. That falls into one of those "true things that we're not supposed to say out loud" category, and I just can't bring myself to worry about stuff like that. Here’s a true thing you’re not supposed to say out loud: Not all Bills fans are decent human beings. Some are troglodytes, such as yourself. 3 1 1 Quote
Captain Caveman Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, Chaos said: This is insane. The title of this must be changed. Pegula was not "Quoted". A proper heading would be Trotter lawsuit ALLEGES racist comments by Terry Pegula. This title is so misleading 80% of the posters in this thread don't seem to know, after investigation, this allegation is debunked. An NFL investigation clearing one of its owners doesn't exactly move the needle for me. I don't know what was said, but it's a weird lie for the other reporter to make up. 1 1 Quote
mathja Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 51 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said: For the record, I wouldn't care if he said exactly what was stated in the complaint. That falls into one of those "true things that we're not supposed to say out loud" category, and I just can't bring myself to worry about stuff like that. Go back to Africa is okay? 99% of the players are Americans, and multiple generations were born here too. Sad. That said, i don’t know if he said it. 2 Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, BillsFanSD said: For the record, I wouldn't care if he said exactly what was stated in the complaint. That falls into one of those "true things that we're not supposed to say out loud" category, and I just can't bring myself to worry about stuff like that. I would pay money to see you say that to Von Miller or Dion Dawkins. But you’re a coward so you won’t. there used to be a thought out there that there were a bunch of garbage racist bills fans. This thread is fishing them out. and I don’t think Pegula said this. But it’s hilarious that the people who think they are superior to other races are normally the worst examples of their race. 4 1 1 Quote
Mango Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Rico said: I do hope that Trotter can provide clear and indisputable proof that Pegs said this. If he can’t, may the NFL/Pegs squish this cockroach into the ground. There’s nothing to squish. The context is “My colleague told me this. I reported it. Nobody ever followed up with me I asked Goodell about other DEI initiatives. Now I’ve lost my job after being told I’d be getting a new contract”. Trotter isn’t using this to throw Pegs under the bus. He’s saying the league didn’t even bother looking into this or Jerry Jones and bringing it up cost him his job. Which if true, is a big deal for any large corporation. This isn’t a hit piece on Pegula. Or at least not intentionally. Quote
SydneyBillsFan Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 I hope and pray that I am never put on trial before a jury of people who believe you're guilty until proven innocent like a bunch of you do here, it is frightening. 1 1 Quote
Best Williams Available Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I would pay money to see you say that to Von Miller or Dion Dawkins. But you’re a coward so you won’t. there used to be a thought out there that there were a bunch of garbage racist bills fans. This thread is fishing them out. and I don’t think Pegula said this. But it’s hilarious that the people who think they are superior to other races are normally the worst examples of their race. The See who reacted button shows you which POS to put on mute. 2 1 Quote
Doc Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 I may have missed it in this thread but has Terry responded to these allegations? Quote
Low Positive Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Doc said: I may have missed it in this thread but has Terry responded to these allegations? Yes. Denial on the Bills X account. Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Doc said: I may have missed it in this thread but has Terry responded to these allegations? Yes, nearly immediately too. Seemed like 10 minutes after this thread went up. Quote
Doc Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: Yes. Denial on the Bills X account. 2 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Yes, nearly immediately too. Seemed like 10 minutes after this thread went up. Thanks. I didn't see a link to it/image of it in the thread. Quote
AlfaBill Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 34 minutes ago, Dick_Cheney said: Congratulations, you are a racist. Why? Would anyone be better off in Africa? He shouldn’t have said it (he probably didn’t as another poster pointed out it’s alleged) as the implication is that black Americans are African. They may be descended from there but there Americans. Quote
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