Buffalo03 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 The same Jim Trotter who lost his job at NFL network and then made it about race? That Jim Trotter? 1 1 Quote
Buffalo03 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Rhyno716 said: What a dumb *****. There is no defending this. If he actually said it Quote
WEATHER DOT COM Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 So the alleged statement was at a dinner per the Buffalo News report.... "A league source told The Buffalo News that the alleged comment was thoroughly investigated, including interviews with Terry and his wife and co-owner, Kim Pegula – who both denied the statement – and every other person at the dinner where this conversation purportedly took place." However, from the complaint... “During the meeting, an NFL Media reporter described a conversation he had with Buffalo Bills owner Terry Pegula in which Mr. Pegula was speaking about the recent emphasis on social activism by NFL players, and in particular support for Black Lives Matter.” So, if we are to believe the Buffalo News report, the NFL Media reporter was at the dinner? If that's the case, logically this reporter must have also denied the statement if we are to believe the Buffalo News article, which doesn't make sense if said reporter described the conversation "during the meeting." Make it make sense. Quote
Buffalo03 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Bob Jones said: Who is Jim Trotter? A guy that got let go from NFL Network and blamed it on race Quote
MikePJ76 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 OMG. I am afraid to even check for updates on anything today after seeing this Quote
Nineforty Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Some people are just assuming the NFL investigation is on the up-and-up. I wouldn't make that assumption for obvious historical reasons. Just like I'm not making the assumption those same unnamed people at the dinner would answer the same way under oath. Just like I'm not jumping to 'he definitely said it' based on 1 page of a lawsuit. I want to know a lot more information, starting with the person who claims to have heard it first hand. 1 Quote
BillsUberAlles Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) Note that it was "heard". Which means there is no record of it actually happening. There is a name for this and it's called "hearsay". Pegula vehemently has rejected that this happened, and honestly this looks like a targeted and calculated move by Trotter. Also note that Trotter has no liability in any of this because since there is no record, he can simply say "That's what I heard". I find it hard to believe this would be discussed in public with NFL reporters in the vicinity to hear it. Edited September 12, 2023 by BillsUberAlles Quote
Buffalo03 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Mango said: Deuces Pegula. What an absolute POS. GTFO of my town. Edit: To appease some, I’ll add the obligatory “if true”. It’s a tough morning after last night. This would be quite the gut punch. Because people don't lie to get money in lawsuits? Lol 1 Quote
Fr. Jerk Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Candidly, I have a hard time believing that a guy who married a minority and who has kids who are minorities would say something so stupid and so offensive. Forreal, it makes no cents, ya dig? 1 Quote
DasNootz Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Dukestreetking said: This is the correct reading of the allegation, tortured though the (original) wording may be. That is, attendees were Shield employees. Rather odd though: para 128 effectively states that Mr Trotter was IN the zoom meeting, but did not himself hear the comment. If it was a zoom call (virtual, of course) how precisely was TP having a (side) conversation with the unnamed reporter, who was also in the call? Yes, possible, but details matter. I only quickly reviewed...but there are many similar leverage points in the complaint that any reasonable defense lawyer will attack. Please note: I'm only making a cold-hearted evaluation of the stated fact pattern. I don't know what is true or not. The allegation says during a zoom conference that Trotter was part of with other NFL reporters (employees), an unnamed reporter brought up a conversation that he/she with Terry. Trotter would not have heard the comment directly, as the unnamed reporter was recalling comments made at a different time and place. Trotter's complaint is that the NFL didn't investigate the allegation that these comments were made in a satisfactory manner. Edited September 12, 2023 by DasNootz 2 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 36 minutes ago, AuntieEm said: Well as BLM is claiming that blacks are targeted here by the powers that be or the police, let these concerned players go see how police treat blacks in Africa. Large continent there are various regimes in countries that make up Africa I'm sure there are pockets of racial equality in some areas and some pretty gruesome conditions in other areas. Just saying that ok if you think ìts so bad here go see how it is in another part of the world. Africa being chosen as the place to start comparison because Black people originated from that continent. Actually if the theory of evolution is accurate all humankind originateđ from Africa. And we are all black if we could trace our origins back to everyone's common ancestor I'm pretty confident that it would be a black person. How many white ruled countries left in Africa? So black Americans should just accept whatever treatment they get here....because it might be worse in another country? 1 Quote
Budkin Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 That is brutal. Is he going to address it? Quote
WEATHER DOT COM Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DasNootz said: The allegation says during a zoom conference that Trotter was part of with other NFL reporters (employees), an unnamed reporter brought up a conversation that he/she with Terry. Trotter would not have heard the comment directly, as the unnamed reporter was recalling comments made at a different time and place. Trotters complaint is that the NFL didn't investigate the allegation that these comments were made in a satisfactory manner. If what the Buffalo News claims is also true, that everyone at the dinner where Terry said this was interviewed and cleared him of the comments, Trotter's complaint that the NFL didn't investigate the allegations in a satisfactory manner is accurate if the person who heard the comments at the dinner (the unnamed reporter) was not interviewed. This does not mean Terry said what he is accused of. It does, however, point to the NFL continuing to protect it's own in an effort to avoid all potential controversy. Edited September 12, 2023 by WEATHER DOT COM 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 41 minutes ago, Gary Marangi said: When and what year did this happen? Alabama, 1962 2 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 41 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: If there aren’t 2 on at least every nfl roster there is some evil inequity thing happening here the problem isn't with the composition rosters, as you know. so your rejoinder lacks both wit and any sense. Quote
BillsfaninSB Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 It made to ESPN,com headline. Of course it only has Pegula in the title link and does not include Jones. Quote
Donuts and Doritos Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Wait so he's a reporter who got this quote a few years ago that was news worthy but didn't do a story reporting it? 🤔 1 Quote
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 So Pegula on record strongly denying the claim, and I note the allegations are from 2020…can we honestly expect something this newsworthy to be kept quiet for 3 years despite the claim that over 40 people allegedly heard it? I don’t know how credible that is, not to mention the double or even triple levels of hearsay involved. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: So Pegula on record strongly denying the claim, and I note the allegations are from 2020…can we honestly expect something this newsworthy to be kept quiet for 3 years despite the claim that over 40 people allegedly heard it? I don’t know how credible that is, not to mention the double or even triple levels of hearsay involved. what is "double (or even triple) hearsay"? Quote
HOUSE Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, 4th&long said: Anybody that believes they Terry said this I got land for sale in Florida. Dirt cheap too! If you believe this you are extremely gullible! Where exactly in Florida? Quote
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