Tre White

[Special K]

Tre would not have had to make that tackle if the Bills would have drafted Breece Hall instead of Kair "inactive list" Elam............

[BillnutinHouston]

What is a civ?

[appoo]

This is kinda of nuts. He's a corner not a linebacker. He's gonna miss tackles against RBs. Just a fact. 

 

His coverage was really good. Took a wordlie catch from Garrett Wilson. 

 

In fact both and he and Christian Benford were good last night in coverage

[C.Biscuit97]

21 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

Yeah we know- still gotta tackle. Its football. 

He kept contain (which means not letting the play get outside you and force it inside). Obviously, it’s a great bonus for him to make that tackle but on no good defense are your cbs supposed to be primary tacklers 

26 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

I'm not complaining about Tre at all. The OP has some sort of weird obsession with him. If the Jets can get Breece Hall one on one with any CB, Hall will win that battle 8 times out of 10.

Disagree. Dick Nightrain Lane used to lay out Jim Brown all the time!!!

[billsfan_34]

8 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

He kept contain (which means not letting the play get outside you and force it inside). Obviously, it’s a great bonus for him to make that tackle but on no good defense are your cbs supposed to be primary tacklers 

Disagree. Dick Nightrain Lane used to lay out Jim Brown all the time!!!

Twice Tre filled gaps and twice he slid off like butter. No effort in his tackling at all. Just my opinion- on to Da Raidas!!! 

[Matt_In_NH]

Poyer was playing Covid football, no touching of the other players allowed

[SCBills]

I thought Tre was ok last night.. hard to really gauge a ton in the secondary when Rodgers does down and the Jets decide to go power football and hope Josh keeps giving them the ball back. 

 

What I will say is that this year is the year for this current window.  And by current window, I mean that I would be completely fine letting Hyde, Poyer, Tre, Morse and Davis move on after the season.  We're cap strapped anyway, 4 of them aren't getting any younger and Davis is a WR3 with big play ability that we don't have the luxury of paying. 

[Matt_In_NH]

2 hours ago, Dillenger4 said:

Jets TD to tie the game - Tre 1-on-1. BURNED like always.

Burned?  come on, he got his hand on the ball and had good position, it was a highlight play but it was also fortunate for Wilson the ball stayed within his span.

[4merper4mer]

17 minutes ago, appoo said:

This is kinda of nuts. He's a corner not a linebacker. He's gonna miss tackles against RBs. Just a fact. 

 

His coverage was really good. Took a wordlie catch from Garrett Wilson. 

 

In fact both and he and Christian Benford were good last night in coverage

G. Wilson is easily the best player on their O and was not heavily targeted at all in the game.  Gee I wonder why.  But let’s blame Tre for everything.

[TampaBillsJunkie]

2 hours ago, Blackbeard said:

Jets Offense was kept to 22 points, which includes OT.  I'd say D played pretty well.

16-  Special Teams TD's aren't the defense fault.

[Toyo321]

2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

Gotta cut him some slack…just did his knee two years ago..

Another two years he’ll be fine ..

Breece Hall did not need two years.   He smoked us last night coming off an ACL injury last year.

Edited September 12, 2023 by Toyo321

[appoo]

3 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

G. Wilson is easily the best player on their O and was not heavily targeted at all in the game.  Gee I wonder why.  But let’s blame Tre for everything.

Loved what I saw from Benford last night. Chance he's special. 

2 minutes ago, Toyo321 said:

Breece Hall did not need two years.   He smoked us last night coming off an ACL injury last year.

Two busted gap plays

[K-9]

23 minutes ago, appoo said:

This is kinda of nuts. He's a corner not a linebacker. He's gonna miss tackles against RBs. Just a fact. 

 

His coverage was really good. Took a wordlie catch from Garrett Wilson. 

 

In fact both and he and Christian Benford were good last night in coverage

Agree both corners were very good in coverage last night and it’s nice to see someone give credit to Wilson for that incredible catch. A catch that Tre played good defense on, btw. 
 

I will quibble a little about the missed tackles though. On both misses, Tre had a hold of a leg and didn’t wrap up. I know that Hall is far bigger and stronger, but Tre isn’t a little waif of a player and is more than strong enough to keep hold of a leg when he has it in his grasp. He was lazy on those plays. 

[appoo]

1 minute ago, K-9 said:

Agree both corners were very good in coverage last night and it’s nice to see someone give credit to Wilson for that incredible catch. A catch that Tre played good defense on, btw. 
 

I will quibble a little about the missed tackles though. On both misses, Tre had a hold of a leg and didn’t wrap up. I know that Hall is far bigger and stronger, but Tre isn’t a little waif of a player and is more than strong enough to keep hold of a leg when he has it in his grasp. He was lazy on those plays. 

You're not wrong, but that seems more feature of the NFL corner today. Lot of business decisions being made out there

[billsfan_34]

4 hours ago, Doc said:

On the TD he got his hand on the ball but Wilson made an absolutely incredible play to snag it.  

I dont think his hand touched the ball - regardless we are on to the next game.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

2 hours ago, SCBills said:

I thought Tre was ok last night.. hard to really gauge a ton in the secondary when Rodgers does down and the Jets decide to go power football and hope Josh keeps giving them the ball back. 

 

What I will say is that this year is the year for this current window.  And by current window, I mean that I would be completely fine letting Hyde, Poyer, Tre, Morse and Davis move on after the season.  We're cap strapped anyway, 4 of them aren't getting any younger and Davis is a WR3 with big play ability that we don't have the luxury of paying. 

Davis absolutely stinks. 

 

Complete black hole in your offense. 

 

 

[Mikie2times]

He completely locked down Wilson. He had some swag back. I saw him mouthing a bit. If his play is being judged by how we fills at the line of scrimmage, I would say we have bigger issues to worry about. 

[Codyny13]

4 hours ago, Dillenger4 said:

OK - Last night sucked. Full stop. Bad play calling, Josh playing like sugar-rush-Josh. But can we please discuss the Tre White comedy act?

 

He cost us this game just as much as Josh.

 

On the long Breece Hall run from their 3 yard line... Tre came in and whiffed. Absolutely missed on the tackle. Boom - 3 points for the Jets.

 

Third and long,Bills up 13-3. Tre, again, whiffed on the tackle behind the line. First down. Eventual FG.

 

Jets TD to tie the game - Tre 1-on-1. BURNED like always.

 

The dude is the weakest link on a very good D. I know you all love him... "Pro bowler blah blah". He is weak and plays like a civ. Teams will attack him. 

Worst take I’ve heard today. He was man up on Garret much of the game, garret was clearly frustrated and held to pedestrian numbers until making a spectacular play that was defended perfectly. We’re going to put a running play on the db and not the fact that Bernard was pancake blocked. Watch some film

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

4 hours ago, Doc said:

On the TD he got his hand on the ball but Wilson made an absolutely incredible play to snag it.  

that catch was lucky. 
 

wilson is a great receiver. But it was a lucky bounce of the ball back to him on that play.

[Peter]

4 hours ago, Dillenger4 said:

OK - Last night sucked. Full stop. Bad play calling, Josh playing like sugar-rush-Josh. But can we please discuss the Tre White comedy act?

 

He cost us this game just as much as Josh.

 

On the long Breece Hall run from their 3 yard line... Tre came in and whiffed. Absolutely missed on the tackle. Boom - 3 points for the Jets.

 

Third and long,Bills up 13-3. Tre, again, whiffed on the tackle behind the line. First down. Eventual FG.

 

Jets TD to tie the game - Tre 1-on-1. BURNED like always.

 

The dude is the weakest link on a very good D. I know you all love him... "Pro bowler blah blah". He is weak and plays like a civ. Teams will attack him. 

 

T. White just has not been the same since he got hurt.

 

As I mentioned in another post, McCoach better hope that Josh plays like we know he can and that this is not a new normal . . . otherwise McCoach forever will be known as the guy who outsmarted himself by trading the right to select Mahomes in the draft.

 

As an aside, I am more confident about Josh returning to form than I am Tre. I hope they both can though.