letsgoteam Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Slide? You wont get an argument from me LOL. Im just trying to figure out/rationalize why JA would try to jump on that play. Also on another note, Josh's stats since KC (really after 2nd half of GB) is disturbing. The only thing is with the injury he had, I dont want to give him a pass necessarily, but at the same time, not condemn him either for the second half of the season since he had the injury. Edited September 12, 2023 by letsgoteam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Yeah, and on about 14 of the INT's he's passed up a low risk underneath option for a high risk hero ball option. He's not being coached to play smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, letsgoteam said: You wont get an argument from me LOL. Im just trying to figure out/rationalize why JA would try to jump on that play. It's 3rd down and they need a conversion. He's not going to give up on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALG1130 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: I think the issue is it’s not one game. This may be the worst but he’s struggled since the second half of the Packers game last year. And the weaknesses exploited by the Jets tonight are nothing new. He tore his UCL after the Packers game, and he STILL balled out for the most part. He still won us games. Yeah, it was different than the first 6 games, but he still made magic happen. He tends to have a lot of turnovers every year. Tonight was just one of his worst, and this time around they cost us, but it's one freaking game. I think we need at least a few more before we come to crazy thoughts like trading him and whatever nonsense being said. He did not get off to a stellar start in 2021 either. His first two games were terrible, but he turned it around, and put on quite a show in the playoffs. Edited September 12, 2023 by Aimee75 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Simon said: It's 3rd down and they need a conversion. He's not going to give up on it. He was 10 yards away when he decided to jump in the air to fly over 3 Jets defenders. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: He was 10 yards away when he decided to jump in the air to fly over 3 Jets defenders. Did you want him to lay down? That's not going to happen. Nor should it. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Simon said: Did you want him to lay down? That's not going to happen. Nor should it. Yes. I want him to slide there. I want him to play smart football. On the INT to Diggs he had a clear running path to the 1st also. He just wasn’t very smart. Edited September 12, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, Simon said: Either provide a link for this or your just spreading false rumors. Id have to pull the link. I’m out of pocket and struggling to dig it up quickly. I’m paraphrasing, but he’s referring to the McAfee interview where Josh says, “Of course I watch film. But I try not to over do it. Teams play us differently than what we see on film. I prefer to trust my eyes in real time”. Again, paraphrasing. But that’s the gist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Yes. I want him to slide there. On 3rd down? Late in a tight game against a division rival? **** that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Simon said: Did you want him to lay down? That's not going to happen. Nor should it. I can be hard on Josh at times. But I agree. Even if a negative (it wasn’t. It was just Josh) it’s pretty far on the list tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: He tore his UCL and played the Jets 3 times and Ken Dorsey sucks. Can we play Zach Wilson every week ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Aimee75 said: He tore his UCL after the Packers game, and he STILL balled out for the most part. He still won us games. Yeah, it was different than the first 6 games, but he still made magic happen. He tends to have a lot of turnovers every year. Tonight was just one of his worst, and this time around they cost us, but it's one freaking game. I think we need at least a few more before we come to crazy thoughts like trading him and whatever nonsense being said. He did not get off to a stellar start in 2021 either. His first two games were terrible, but he turned it around, and put on quite a show in the playoffs. Maybe I am being unfair but I’m tired. I’m tired of seeing the same issues with Josh, him saying he’s working on them and yet nothing changes. As he says himself, same old s**t on a different day. He can talk the talk at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Simon said: On 3rd down? Late in a tight game against a division rival? **** that. Ok you didn’t watch the game. That was the 2nd quarter. They were up 10-3. He’s jumping into 3 Jets 7 yards from the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Ok you didn’t watch the game. That was the 2nd quarter. They were up 10-3. He’s jumping into 3 Jets 7 yards from the first. Actually I did watch the game; I just thought it was in the 3rd qrtr instead of late in the 2nd. But thanks anyways for the insult. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Simon said: Actually I did watch the game; I just thought it was in the 3rd qrtr. But thanks anyways for the insult. Come on man, you said late in the game. The leap of faith also came right after he under threw James Cook for a TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Come on man, you said late in the game. The leap of faith also came right after he under threw James Cook for a TD. I thought it was in the 2nd half, not at the very end of the first. Regardless, I don't want anybody laying down instead of doing whatever it takes to try and convert a key third down. Not sure what that has to do with the lack of air on the Cook throw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Ok you didn’t watch the game. That was the 2nd quarter. They were up 10-3. He’s jumping into 3 Jets 7 yards from the first. Completely spitballing but here goes… Josh does the salmon jump in the second quarter, Dorsey absolutely lays into him for it - understandably - either at the time or at half time. Josh’s seemingly already fragile confidence is knocked. He’s tries to make up for it by trying too hard. Things aren’t coming off. He pushes himself further but it’s now snowballing with error after error. It’s only when the game on the line in the final series that he manages, to an extent, reset. May be miles off but I can see this happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, UKBillFan said: Completely spitballing but here goes… Josh does the salmon jump in the second quarter, Dorsey absolutely lays into him for it - understandably - either at the time or at half time. Josh’s seemingly already fragile confidence is knocked. He’s tries to make up for it by trying too hard. Things aren’t coming off. He pushes himself further but it’s now snowballing with error after error. It’s only when the game on the line in the final series that he manages, to an extent, reset. May be miles off but I can see this happening. Probably not Dorsey but definitely McDermott was probably all over him at halftime. The hop and a prayer happened after he refused to slide earlier and McDermott was seen yelling “play smarter “ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Process said: Burrow in Week 1 last year... 5 turnovers, OT loss Burrow in Week 1 this year... 80 yards, 0 TD, 3 points, blowout loss Burrow in Week 1 last year... Weeks off major surgery, missed 90% of preseason, lost over 20 pounds had 6 practices before game. Burrow in Week 1 this year... Missed the last 6 weeks of preseason, had a total of 3 full participation practices, played hurt in a monsoon, vs defense with no tape and Myles Garrett. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 He has a look of shame. He thinks it's all his fault cause he's been made to win it by himself on the offensive side. Now they preach to get down, protect yourself. He slings it all over the place . There's no calm, method to wear anyone down cause there's no running game. They may create a real head case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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