Milanos Milano Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, schoolhouserock said: He’s smart enough. That makes it worse. So why is he so unwilling? If what you say is true, that he is smart enough to diagnose, but is willfully dismissing the easy stuff. Then we have bigger problems than we like to admit. 2 Quote
Mango Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: Wait what 1 minute ago, Mango said: On a podcast a week or two ago with Kyle Allen, Josh and Jordan Palmer, Kyle told a story about a party after this years training camp where Josh had some pops and was telling everybody how he was the best athlete on the planet….after losing two games of pickle ball to Matt Barkleys wife. Did you miss that one? Quote
FireChans Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Mango said: Did you miss that one? I don’t listen to Josh in the off-season because he’s starting to annoy me. 2 1 Quote
Aussie Joe Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 39 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: He tore his UCL and played the Jets 3 times and Ken Dorsey sucks. The Jets have his number apparently… Other QBs would adapt 1 Quote
BuffaloRebound Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Beast said: I’m pretty sure he clanked another one off the numbers of a Jets DB on a pass over the middle. Josh’s football awareness was absolutely pathetic tonight. On one drive he could have ran out of bounds but decided to take on 2 tacklers for no reason. He picked up a meaningless yard doing that. Later, he tried to leap over multiple defenders on a 3rd down where he wasn’t even close to the sticks. His stupid play has become alarming. This. His decision making is horrendous. There’s really only a handful of starting QB’s in the NFL who could’ve lost that game tonight. Quote
letsgoteam Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: We have a problem. I dont feel like researching or finding "proof", but I want to say I've heard players say that when they are hit while in the air it doesnt "hurt" like it would if they were on the ground. (Does that make sense, hopefully? I think it does). Again I could be completely wrong, but I want to say I've heard that. Also, Im not trying to defend his actions. Edited September 12, 2023 by letsgoteam Quote
Milanos Milano Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: This. His decision making is horrendous. There’s really only a handful of starting QB’s in the NFL who could’ve lost that game tonight. Good defenses have figured out Allen. Take the deep stuff away, put a spy on Allen, and collapse the edges. The jets have the perfect personnel for this strategy because they have the best CB in the league with Sauce. Not many teams have the personnel to do the things that rattle Allen. Quote
Dan Darragh Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 59 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: He tore his UCL and played the Jets 3 times and Ken Dorsey sucks. Dorsey also sucked during games 1-6 last year so that theory doesn't hold. Quote
Big Blitz Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Araiza Curse said: Good defenses have figured out Allen. Take the deep stuff away, put a spy on Allen, and collapse the edges. The jets have the perfect personnel for this strategy because they have the best CB in the league with Sauce. Not many teams have the personnel to do the things that rattle Allen. And Allen lit up Sauce tonight the problem was getting baited by the Safety and yolo Josh Quote
Aussie Joe Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Big Blitz said: And Allen lit up Sauce tonight the problem was getting baited by the Safety and yolo Josh They are laughing at Allen now .. they would have zero respect for him Quote
UKBillFan Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, Mango said: Did you miss that one? Not that I listened to the podcast, but are we sure drunk Josh wasn’t being sarcastic considering he had just lost to Matt’s wife? Quote
Dan Darragh Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 36 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: I thought he actually didn’t force anything deep or risky outside of INT 3. TYPO ALERT - you meant to write 3 INT Quote
Big Blitz Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Dan Darragh said: TYPO ALERT - you meant to write 3 INT I’m not sure what he saw on the 2nd one. Was probably the worst decision of the 3 I’m still blaming Dorsey for that 3rd down call that played right into what the Jets wanted. Quote
Dan Darragh Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: I’m not sure what he saw on the 2nd one. Was probably the worst decision of the 3 I’m still blaming Dorsey for that 3rd down call that played right into what the Jets wanted. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on INT 1 - if there was nothing there, it was a better result than we were likely to get by punting. Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Beast said: The first 6 games of last year 17 TD’s and 4 INT’s. What gives? I know some here think we will be fine but….will we? Will we with such poor QB play? Is Josh just not a very smart QB? I mean, he said he had to take better care of his body and the ball this past off-season. He did neither in his first meaningful game. And showed nothing of the sort that he gave a crap about doing either of those things. Seriously, what in hell is going on with Josh Allen? Can't answer that. Something is definitely wrong with Josh. Thought he would flush the Cincy game but tonight was even worse. Dorsey is a train wreck and not helping his confidence or tempo. But Josh is also to blame in his stubborn inability to correct the reckless mistakes he's had for years. Quote
ALG1130 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Not that I listened to the podcast, but are we sure drunk Josh wasn’t being sarcastic considering he had just lost to Matt’s wife? This is so ridiculous. I saw the same interview, and Josh came off as usual, being goofy. I did not take his comments seriously at all. He's goofy. He just has some haters here, and they will stop at nothing when it comes to him. It's bizarre. Now, I do blame him for tonight's loss, and it was a terrible game from him, but I cannot sit here after ONE game and act like he is not it and we have to go back to the drawing board. If this keeps up over the next few weeks, yes, be concerned, but it was game one. The amount of people here who want or wait for him to fail is just sad. 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, letsgoteam said: I dont feel like researching or finding "proof", but I want to say I've heard players say that when they are hit while in the air it doesnt "hurt" like it would if they were on the ground. (Does that make sense, hopefully? I think it does). Again I could be completely wrong, but I want to say I've heard that. Also, Im not trying to defend his actions. Slide? 1 Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 How about bad 2nd half against the Packers in a game in hand, the Jets have Josh's number and an elbow injury...? Horrible game, but let's not say stupid stuff like Josh is a bad QB Quote
UKBillFan Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Aimee75 said: This is so ridiculous. I saw the same interview, and Josh came off as usual, being goofy. I did not take his comments seriously at all. He's goofy. He just has some haters here, and they will stop at nothing when it comes to him. It's bizarre. Now, I do blame him for tonight's loss, and it was a terrible game from him, but I cannot sit here after ONE game and act like he is not it and we have to go back to the drawing board. If this keeps up over the next few weeks, yes, be concerned, but it was game one. The amount of people here who want or wait for him to fail is just sad. I think the issue is it’s not one game. This may be the worst but he’s struggled since the second half of the Packers game last year. And the weaknesses exploited by the Jets tonight are nothing new. 1 Quote
Simon Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, VaMilBill said: That story came out that josh relies mostly on athleticism and doesn’t study much. Either provide a link for this or your just spreading false rumors. 1 Quote
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