Beane’s failures on full display

[Shanahan's Horseshoe]

1. Spencer Brown sucks. That’s it. He sucks and Beane had plenty of chances to bring in competition. Josh doesn’t trust him. 

2. MLB is a disaster and not bringing in a vet to compete was an obvious blunder. Bernard just jumping into gaps was something I’ve never seen before from a NFL MLB. 

3. Cook is not a lead back and has never been a lead back. Not in high school, not in college and certainly not in the NFL. You could sneeze on the guy and he’d fall down. 
 

Josh was terrible today and Dorsey was brutal but Beane’s failures were on full display tonight. 

[BillsFan130]

Ya I think he had 2 major mis calculations.

 

1. Spencer brown

 

2. Dorsey

 

[Simon]

  On 9/12/2023 at 4:13 AM, Shanahan's Horseshoe said:

MLB is a disaster and not bringing in a vet to compete was an obvious blunder. Bernard just jumping into gaps was something I’ve never seen before from a NFL MLB.

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He led all players in both total and solo tackles tonight. 

In his first start.

Calling him a nightmare might be a little over the top.

[McBean]

News flash: this is Sean McDermott’s team. He’s Terry Pegula’s son. Beane is McClaps puppet.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

  On 9/12/2023 at 4:13 AM, Shanahan's Horseshoe said:

1. Spencer Brown sucks. That’s it. He sucks and Beane had plenty of chances to bring in competition. Josh doesn’t trust him. 

2. MLB is a disaster and not bringing in a vet to compete was an obvious blunder. Bernard just jumping into gaps was something I’ve never seen before from a NFL MLB. 

3. Cook is not a lead back and has never been a lead back. Not in high school, not in college and certainly not in the NFL. You could sneeze on the guy and he’d fall down. 
 

Josh was terrible today and Dorsey was brutal but Beane’s failures were on full display tonight. 

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Sometimes I wonder if I’m watching the same game as people.

[Heels20X6]

Not getting any weapons for your billionaire QB while the other teams in your division have an arms race was foolish. 
 

Gabe Davis is not a #2 WR. He’s barely a #3. 

[Bubba Gump]

  On 9/12/2023 at 4:13 AM, Shanahan's Horseshoe said:

1. Spencer Brown sucks. That’s it. He sucks and Beane had plenty of chances to bring in competition. Josh doesn’t trust him. 

2. MLB is a disaster and not bringing in a vet to compete was an obvious blunder. Bernard just jumping into gaps was something I’ve never seen before from a NFL MLB. 

3. Cook is not a lead back and has never been a lead back. Not in high school, not in college and certainly not in the NFL. You could sneeze on the guy and he’d fall down. 
 

Josh was terrible today and Dorsey was brutal but Beane’s failures were on full display tonight. 

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Beane has whiffed on every RB he's drafted. I had hope for Cook, but watching him fold like a lawnchair when someone touches him is concerning. Beane brought in 2 tough downhill runners and they were non existent tonight. 

[Billznut]

  On 9/12/2023 at 4:14 AM, BillsFan130 said:

Ya I think he had 2 major mis calculations.

 

1. Spencer brown

 

2. Dorsey

 

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I firmly believe Allen sees Dorsey as a peer than more of a boss or superior.  Allen hand picked Dorsey to succeed Daboll. It wouldn’t have happened unless Josh agreed to it. I think the single best thing the Bills could do is replace Dorsey with a seasoned veteran OC with a winning and proven resume that would hopefully instantly wake up Allen and give him someone he respects, believes, listens to. Allen needs a superior as OC, not a peer. 

[Mikie2times]

  On 9/12/2023 at 4:15 AM, Simon said:

 

He led all players in both total and solo tackles tonight. 

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He had 1 solo tackle at halftime. 
 

Finished with 4 solo and 7 assists. Looked fast but was pushed around on a few plays I saw. Still, pretty big adjustment to do that in two quarters.

 

Milano was insane. Tre is also back for the most part. He essentially shut Wilson down outside of that crazy end zone catch. Floyd was super impressive. The defensive was actually pretty damn good. 

Edited September 12, 2023 by Mikie2times

[Shanahan's Horseshoe]

  On 9/12/2023 at 4:17 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Sometimes I wonder if I’m watching the same game as people.

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Maybe you’re just drunk 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

  On 9/12/2023 at 4:21 AM, Shanahan's Horseshoe said:

Maybe you’re just drunk 

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Don’t drink.

[buffblue]

  On 9/12/2023 at 4:17 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Sometimes I wonder if I’m watching the same game as people.

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  On 9/12/2023 at 4:13 AM, Shanahan's Horseshoe said:

1. Spencer Brown sucks. That’s it. He sucks and Beane had plenty of chances to bring in competition. Josh doesn’t trust him. 

2. MLB is a disaster and not bringing in a vet to compete was an obvious blunder. Bernard just jumping into gaps was something I’ve never seen before from a NFL MLB. 

3. Cook is not a lead back and has never been a lead back. Not in high school, not in college and certainly not in the NFL. You could sneeze on the guy and he’d fall down. 
 

Josh was terrible today and Dorsey was brutal but Beane’s failures were on full display tonight. 

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I thought Cook was fine

[gobills404]

  On 9/12/2023 at 4:15 AM, Simon said:

 

He led all players in both total and solo tackles tonight. 

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And Preston Brown led the league in tackles in 2017. Maybe Beane can coax him out of retirement.

[LABILLBACKER]

  On 9/12/2023 at 4:13 AM, Shanahan's Horseshoe said:

1. Spencer Brown sucks. That’s it. He sucks and Beane had plenty of chances to bring in competition. Josh doesn’t trust him. 

2. MLB is a disaster and not bringing in a vet to compete was an obvious blunder. Bernard just jumping into gaps was something I’ve never seen before from a NFL MLB. 

3. Cook is not a lead back and has never been a lead back. Not in high school, not in college and certainly not in the NFL. You could sneeze on the guy and he’d fall down. 
 

Josh was terrible today and Dorsey was brutal but Beane’s failures were on full display tonight. 

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Brown needs to immediately be replaced. Peters or whoever. 

 

Kirksey will help replace Bernard who looked lost.

 

Cook will be fine once you lose the stupid delayed draws.

 

Beane's had 6 years to build a dominant OL around Josh and because of McD's influence,  he's gone in other directions. 

[Big Blitz]

Was opening this expecting to see a highlight of Hall’s 85 yard run that will be a TD when he’s full health in November.   

[ngbills]

  On 9/12/2023 at 4:13 AM, Shanahan's Horseshoe said:

1. Spencer Brown sucks. That’s it. He sucks and Beane had plenty of chances to bring in competition. Josh doesn’t trust him. 

2. MLB is a disaster and not bringing in a vet to compete was an obvious blunder. Bernard just jumping into gaps was something I’ve never seen before from a NFL MLB. 

3. Cook is not a lead back and has never been a lead back. Not in high school, not in college and certainly not in the NFL. You could sneeze on the guy and he’d fall down. 
 

Josh was terrible today and Dorsey was brutal but Beane’s failures were on full display tonight. 

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Bingo as pointed out by so many “clueless” people. 

  On 9/12/2023 at 4:31 AM, Big Blitz said:

Was opening this expecting to see a highlight of Hall’s 85 yard run that will be a TD when he’s full health in November.   

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If they handed hall the ball 20 times tonight we lose by 20+. 

[PBF81]

  On 9/12/2023 at 4:19 AM, Billznut said:

I firmly believe Allen sees Dorsey as a peer than more of a boss or superior.  Allen hand picked Dorsey to succeed Daboll. It wouldn’t have happened unless Josh agreed to it. I think the single best thing the Bills could do is replace Dorsey with a seasoned veteran OC with a winning and proven resume that would hopefully instantly wake up Allen and give him someone he respects, believes, listens to. Allen needs a superior as OC, not a peer. 

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Interesting take!

 

 

[Thrivefourfive]

  On 9/12/2023 at 4:19 AM, Billznut said:

I firmly believe Allen sees Dorsey as a peer than more of a boss or superior.  Allen hand picked Dorsey to succeed Daboll. It wouldn’t have happened unless Josh agreed to it. I think the single best thing the Bills could do is replace Dorsey with a seasoned veteran OC with a winning and proven resume that would hopefully instantly wake up Allen and give him someone he respects, believes, listens to. Allen needs a superior as OC, not a peer. 

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Completely agree. Allen isn’t Peyton Manning. He makes decisions and then stupid, costly throws. Period. After a few games like tonight, he’s speed walking into Brett Favre territory, and I’d turn that down and try again with someone else. 
 

So Allen does in fact have to change. And if it’s a credible OC or HC, then so be it. Allen is proving that this is the only way out of the abyss that his fine talent has gotten himself in.

[Nextmanup]

  On 9/12/2023 at 4:19 AM, Billznut said:

I firmly believe Allen sees Dorsey as a peer than more of a boss or superior.  Allen hand picked Dorsey to succeed Daboll. It wouldn’t have happened unless Josh agreed to it. I think the single best thing the Bills could do is replace Dorsey with a seasoned veteran OC with a winning and proven resume that would hopefully instantly wake up Allen and give him someone he respects, believes, listens to. Allen needs a superior as OC, not a peer. 

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Interesting perspective if it's true, regarding Josh seeing him as a peer.

 

I think the bigger problem (though what you argue may well be true) is that Dorsey is just not very good.

 

 

[PBF81]

  On 9/12/2023 at 4:27 AM, Shanahan's Horseshoe said:

His avg depth of tackle was probably around 7 yards. He was awful and when he wasn’t in the wrong gap, he was on skates or slow to react. Those are facts. 

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Completely agree, his tackles seemed to be downfield.  I'm sure that there were a couple, but I can't recall any that were in the box, particularly stuffing the line.

 

In fact, on one play, I texted my buddy and said that he looked like a log in a tsunami.  

 

He was abused in the running game.  Made a few nice tackles on pass plays, but after gains.  

 

 

Edited September 12, 2023 by PBF81