Can James Cook break a tackle, ever?!?!

[hondo in seattle]

I thought we signed Murray and Harris to break tackles and drafted Cook to run away from tackles.  

[John from Riverside]

27 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

I thought we signed Murray and Harris to break tackles and drafted Cook to run away from tackles.  

We did there’s just always somebody just got a B word about everything whenever you’re running back is running for over 100 yards in a game. Why are you complaining? Not specifically you just in general

[Scott7975]

Every Cook run and catch Raiders

 

and Jets

 

 

[Maine-iac]

2 hours ago, unbillievable said:

Cook is more Barry than Emitt

I'll see your Barry and raise you a Jamaal Charles.  

12 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

Every Cook run and catch Raiders

 

and Jets

 

 

He looked even better than I remembered watching the game and I thought he looked pretty good the first time.

[Maine-iac]

10 hours ago, HappyDays said:

All this run offense needed was some speed to take full advantage of easy opportunities given to us by the defensive coverages we face.

What this run offense needed was some carries (this year or last year).  Glad to see them handing the ball off.  It will help our passing game in the long run.

[BADOLBILZ]

7 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Cook is a big upgrade over Singletary.

 

 

The talent difference is significant...........but that was to be expected in every way.

 

Higher pedigree, tested better, drafted earlier in a much better RB draft and then as a rookie put up about a yard per carry more than the "good" Devin Singletary.

 

He's gotta' keep it up throughout his rookie deal and show durability but he's definitely more talented.

[Scott7975]

2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

The talent difference is significant...........but that was to be expected in every way.

 

Higher pedigree, tested better, drafted earlier in a much better RB draft and then as a rookie put up about a yard per carry more than the "good" Devin Singletary.

 

He's gotta' keep it up throughout his rookie deal and show durability but he's definitely more talented.

 

I really like our committee of rbs this season.  I wasn't even down on Singletary. I liked him.  This room as a whole though, I think is much better than any room McD's Bills have had.

[k2mountain]

Between this "can Cook break a tackle" and the recent "can Kincaid throw a block" threads, I'm surprised Beane still has a job.  /sarc

 

Some like to stir it up. 

 

 

[HOUSE]

Dalton Kincaid can't block either

Who drafted this team 

[PrimeTime101]

On 9/20/2023 at 7:28 AM, Royale with Cheese said:

You are completely removing his ability to take on contact.  The reason you don’t get clean tackles on him because Cook keeps them on skates….that shouldn’t be held against him.

no and I 100% agree with this. you are right. 

[PrimeTime101]

On 9/20/2023 at 6:27 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

Ah so broken tackles only count if they are good tackles? Interesting. Wonder how many NFL running backs are routinely breaking out of good tackles?

 

 

You know it is a very slippery slope as to what is considered a tackle attempt and what isnt. Maybe you could call that a tackle attempt. My point being is, Cook is not going to break out of really GOOD tackle attempts like many other HB's can. This is not a thing against Cook. Cook is a different player. and my main point was, There is a huge difference between yards after contact and a broken tackle. 

 

A HB Runs into his own line and a DE has his hands on him a split second? is this a tackle attempt? or is this yards after contact? 

[GunnerBill]

19 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

You know it is a very slippery slope as to what is considered a tackle attempt and what isnt. Maybe you could call that a tackle attempt. My point being is, Cook is not going to break out of really GOOD tackle attempts like many other HB's can. This is not a thing against Cook. Cook is a different player. and my main point was, There is a huge difference between yards after contact and a broken tackle. 

 

A HB Runs into his own line and a DE has his hands on him a split second? is this a tackle attempt? or is this yards after contact? 

 

My point is that there are not "many other HBs" who can break out of good tackles. The overwhelming majority of yards after contact by RBs in the NFL come from poor tackle attempts. 

[NewEra]

24 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

You know it is a very slippery slope as to what is considered a tackle attempt and what isnt. Maybe you could call that a tackle attempt. My point being is, Cook is not going to break out of really GOOD tackle attempts like many other HB's can. This is not a thing against Cook. Cook is a different player. and my main point was, There is a huge difference between yards after contact and a broken tackle. 

 

A HB Runs into his own line and a DE has his hands on him a split second? is this a tackle attempt? or is this yards after contact? 

The first play of the 2nd qtr, Spillane had a clear run at cook in the backfield and smacked him dead on.  Cook bounced off of him and got 4 yards that he shouldn’t have had…..IF he didn’t have sufficient contract balance.  That’s what breaking tackles is 90% of the time.  
 

Spillane didn’t really attempt to wrap him up….and if he did, cook probably would’ve been tackled….just as the majority of the nfl RBs would’ve been. 

 

He’s not going to be a grinder that consistently moves the pile because of his physical makeup….but his YPC tells us that’s he’s a legit starting RB that the opposition will have to start paying more attention to.  Teams wanting to cover 2 shell us to death are going to have to deal with him and Kincaid.  

[boyst]

14 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

The talent difference is significant...........but that was to be expected in every way.

 

Higher pedigree, tested better, drafted earlier in a much better RB draft and then as a rookie put up about a yard per carry more than the "good" Devin Singletary.

 

He's gotta' keep it up throughout his rookie deal and show durability but he's definitely more talented.

The only thing he doesn't do is block as good as Motor.

 

And that's significant given motors size. Or lack there of

[GunnerBill]

18 minutes ago, boyst said:

The only thing he doesn't do is block as good as Motor.

 

And that's significant given motors size. Or lack there of

 

That is fair - Motor was good in pass pro. But we have already seen Cook has improved in that facet from where was as a rook. So positive signs. 

[NewEra]

Jimbo wasn’t seen at practice today according to Getzenberg

 

hopefully it’s nothing to worry about

[ColoradoBills]

Cook has 222 all-purpose yards with 6.0 yards a touch.  That's on 59% of the offensive snaps.

Seems like a pretty good start to me.  That would be a season of 1,887 all-purpose yards.

I would love that!

 

Not putting Motor down at all, but he had 1,099 yards and a 5.1 yards per touch with 65% of the snaps.

Seems like a pretty big improvement, if that was to happen.

 

I like Cooks running style and he compliments Murray and Harris well IMO.

 

[PrimeTime101]

8 hours ago, NewEra said:

The first play of the 2nd qtr, Spillane had a clear run at cook in the backfield and smacked him dead on.  Cook bounced off of him and got 4 yards that he shouldn’t have had…..IF he didn’t have sufficient contract balance.  That’s what breaking tackles is 90% of the time.  
 

Spillane didn’t really attempt to wrap him up….and if he did, cook probably would’ve been tackled….just as the majority of the nfl RBs would’ve been. 

 

He’s not going to be a grinder that consistently moves the pile because of his physical makeup….but his YPC tells us that’s he’s a legit starting RB that the opposition will have to start paying more attention to.  Teams wanting to cover 2 shell us to death are going to have to deal with him and Kincaid.  

100% agree

[GunnerBill]

13 hours ago, NewEra said:

Jimbo wasn’t seen at practice today according to Getzenberg

 

hopefully it’s nothing to worry about

 

He a daddy.

[The Wiz]

Well this should settle the debate.