Mrbojanglezs Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Would be nice if we had an offensive head coach like Mahomes does. Defensive coordinators are easier to replace Quote
FireChans Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 I call Gary Kubiak tomorrow and pay him whatever he wants to take over. 2 Quote
wvbillsfan Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 I just want to run the ball a little more 41 passes We played like we were behind when we were up 10 1 1 Quote
Rc2catch Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 I don’t normally call or cheer for firings but his playcalling is bad. Dabol was bad sometimes too, I didn’t think it was possible to get a coordinator who would call runs less than Dabol, I’m no genius at designing an offense clearly but the actual in game play calls have been bad since day one. The just complete refusal to run the ball is maddening. Quote
Big Blitz Posted September 12, 2023 Author Posted September 12, 2023 Jets made adjustments at halftime. We didn’t pick up on them and kept playing stupid. Yes Josh didn’t make plays for 4 drives - but the OC can’t let that happen. 1 Quote
schoolhouserock Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 We all know the real problem tonight: Josh sucked. Take the 5-7 yard options. Push your “hero” ego aside. Josh does that, the Bills win tonight’s game. Every single mistake was caused by looking for something more. Exact same formula the Jests used last year. It’s a lesson all the greats have to learn - very disappointing that Josh hasn’t learned that lesson yet… Can only hope it sinks in someday soon. Quote
Big Blitz Posted September 12, 2023 Author Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, schoolhouserock said: We all know the real problem tonight: Josh sucked. Take the 5-7 yard options. Push your “hero” ego aside. Josh does that, the Bills win tonight’s game. Every single mistake was caused by looking for something more. Exact same formula the Jests used last year. It’s a lesson all the greats have to learn - very disappointing that Josh hasn’t learned that lesson yet… Can only hope it sinks in someday soon. It’s the matchup! The Jets - their offense was done. There was no need to call so many pass plays and think we needed kill shots. If coaches don’t understand this and Josh doesn’t or they can’t get Josh to understand situational awareness then fire everyone. Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, FireChans said: I call Gary Kubiak tomorrow and pay him whatever he wants to take over. Teams usually bring in a guy from outside the building to install an entirely new offense between week 1 and 2…on a short week lol I’m sure that’s a solid move. Quote
Nextmanup Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 27 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Dorsey should be a man and resign. Get a veteran play caller. We heard all summer how Kincaid and Harty were the missing pieces to his offense. He doesn't know what his offense is. There's no originality, creativity, or even a recognizable game plan. It's a mess. Time to make a change I have now said this in 3 different places tonight (I think) but I genuinely am wondering if they would make an OC change mid-season....it's going to be desperately needed. No need to piss away this entire year b/c McDermott doesn't have the balls to admit he made a poor choice with Dorsey. Quote
FireChans Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Teams usually bring in a guy from outside the building to install an entirely new offense between week 1 and 2…on a short week lol I’m sure that’s a solid move. Rip the bandaid off. What they are doing is not working. We are going to have another year with Josh and that gormless look on his face staring off into the distance. Quote
schoolhouserock Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: It’s the matchup! The Jets - their offense was done. There was no need to call so many pass plays and think we needed kill shots. If coaches don’t understand this and Josh doesn’t or they can’t get Josh to understand situational awareness then fire everyone. Every play needs the defense to respect a deep option. That doesn’t mean Josh should be moving the ball that direction. I do not envy anyone trying to tell Josh otherwise - do you think he’d really listen? Quote
Dr.Mantis_Toboggan Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 How long until they hand the reigns to Joe Brady? Clearly Dorsey learned nothing from the end of last season to tonight, it looked like the exact same uninspired hot garbage out there. Even if it’s change for changes sake, I give him two more games, and if they’re still struggling to live up to their potential, get somebody new in that booth. Quote
SUNTANBILLS FAN Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Would it too much to ask to line up under center once or twice? Hey Let's run motion in front of Josh and just chuck it. Hey we got 2 tightness open all night don't keep feeding them. Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, FireChans said: Rip the bandaid off. What they are doing is not working. We are going to have another year with Josh and that gormless look on his face staring off into the distance. You cant do it now. It will literally take weeks to learn. Get together with Dorsey and come up with something that will work. Josh needs to be tamed and I’m telling you right now..no matter how unconventional it is, Josh needs to use his legs more. That’s what makes him special. I need this guy running for 70 and throwing 20x. Not throwing for 300+ and trying to be a pocket passer. Be the unicorn that you are. If you go down, go down with our fastball. Josh running is our best play. Quote
McBean Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 34 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: You watched Josh be one of the 2 best QBs in the league for 3 and a half years - it took the 2nd half of last season by then you could say this was Dorsey’s offense. And Josh is a turnover machine. We can’t beat great defenses - the way Frazier couldn’t beat great offenses in January. But we did for 3 years. 41 passes tonight is unacceptable. 4 turnovers by Josh - to my knowledge not since 2019. Josh is to blame for some decisions - 2 INTs deep in Jets territory ok but the 3rd pick is all on Dorsey because things were snowballing and a run should have been called. You still had the lead. We let Daboll walk after 13 seconds. We’ll never recover from that game. Quote
FireChans Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said: You cant do it now. It will literally take weeks to learn. Get together with Dorsey and come up with something that will work. Josh needs to be tamed and I’m telling you right now..no matter how unconventional it is, Josh needs to use his legs more. That’s what makes him special. I need this guy running for 70 and throwing 20x. Not throwing for 300+ and trying to be a pocket passer. Be the unicorn that you are. If you go down, go down with our fastball. Josh running is our best play. Josh butt fumbled today trying to run. Quote
Norcalbillsfan Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, schoolhouserock said: We all know the real problem tonight: Josh sucked. Take the 5-7 yard options. Push your “hero” ego aside. Josh does that, the Bills win tonight’s game. Every single mistake was caused by looking for something more. Exact same formula the Jests used last year. It’s a lesson all the greats have to learn - very disappointing that Josh hasn’t learned that lesson yet… Can only hope it sinks in someday soon. Thank you, people calling for dorseys head but tonight was far from dorseys fault. Now if you want to call out dorseys ability to reign in Allen? Then that's a conversation. But dorsey can't physically walk on the field and make josh take what the defense gives him. Josh played horrendous tonight, dorseys plays weren't the issue. 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, schoolhouserock said: We all know the real problem tonight: Josh sucked. Take the 5-7 yard options. Push your “hero” ego aside. Josh does that, the Bills win tonight’s game. Every single mistake was caused by looking for something more. Exact same formula the Jests used last year. It’s a lesson all the greats have to learn - very disappointing that Josh hasn’t learned that lesson yet… Can only hope it sinks in someday soon. Josh is incapable, it's not in his DNA. He refuses to slide or run OB. He clearly refuses to stop throwing in double coverage. He refuses to cover the ball when he's about to be sacked. He clearly still refuses to take the short stuff. He's not maturing going into his 6th season. And an awful OL & OC just amplifies this narrative. Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, FireChans said: Josh butt fumbled today trying to run. Yeah and he threw 3 interceptions Quote
NoSaint Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 35 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: You watched Josh be one of the 2 best QBs in the league for 3 and a half years - it took the 2nd half of last season by then you could say this was Dorsey’s offense. And Josh is a turnover machine. We can’t beat great defenses - the way Frazier couldn’t beat great offenses in January. But we did for 3 years. 41 passes tonight is unacceptable. 4 turnovers by Josh - to my knowledge not since 2019. Josh is to blame for some decisions - 2 INTs deep in Jets territory ok but the 3rd pick is all on Dorsey because things were snowballing and a run should have been called. You still had the lead. josh had that awesome streak of years without a red zone turnover before last year. the chemistry with Dorsey is jacked up. I would be very curious to bring him down to the sideline for a game instead of the booth. Quote
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