Mr. WEO Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Doc said: Yeah, Rodgers is done for his career and the Jets' season is done. The Jets are Josh's kryptonite, like the Browns are to Burrow and the Dols were to Brady. Brady was 24-12 with 8500+ yards, 72 TD and 27 ints--pretty much the same as he was vs the Bills. Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Jets can't win games like that all year. They forced 4 TOs and won on a punt return TD in OT. Its just not a sustainable method of winning. Bills blew it, but I'd rather walk into next week with Josh Allen than Zach Wilson 1 Quote
PayDaBill$ Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) Was old man Rodgers really the answer? Strong D will keep them in the conversation. Edited September 12, 2023 by PayDaBill$ Quote
PatsFanNH Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, PayDaBill$ said: Was old man Rodgers really the answer? Strong D will keep them in the conversation. EVERY QB will go into the Jets game with simple instructions not to turn the ball over.. throw it away/take the sack.. etc. the Jets D is good but they were helped by dumb mistakes like staring down the receiver before throwing the ball. Quote
Bob Jones Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 And it wasn’t even close to being a hard hit or viscous tackle. Compare that tackle where AR got hurt to all the times in the game JA17 was twisted, pounded, beat, etc. 27 is way more durable than 39, I guess! Quote
Beck Water Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, chongli said: I'm sincerely sorry that Rodgers attempt to prove greatness with multiple teams ended as it did. But my inner snark must be freed to say: I'll just bet the former #2 overall pick of the NY Jets, benched for Rodgers, is perfectly sincere that he loves him right now. Zach Wilson's outer voice: "I love you, Aaron". Zach Wilson's inner voice: "Goodbye Rodgers, Hello Career". 19 minutes ago, Bob Jones said: And it wasn’t even close to being a hard hit or viscous tackle. Compare that tackle where AR got hurt to all the times in the game JA17 was twisted, pounded, beat, etc. 27 is way more durable than 39, I guess! 17 is 27, not pushing 40. All of us who lived that long, learned we were all more durable in our 20s than our 40s. Edited September 12, 2023 by Beck Water 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: EVERY QB will go into the Jets game with simple instructions not to turn the ball over.. throw it away/take the sack.. etc. the Jets D is good but they were helped by dumb mistakes like staring down the receiver before throwing the ball. I’m genuinely confused at which play you’re referencing lol two of the picks were bombs into double coverage and one was a play where the ball has to come out before Davis made his break. It was the right read but the throw was too far inside and Davis ran an absolutely atrocious route as he often does. The safety had no business being on that route gabe just made no effort selling that he was going deep Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 23 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Well that was a waste of a 100,000 hours of nonstop offseason bloviating from literally everyone on ESPN. I mean a 4 time MVP going to a team loaded with talent that is technically from NYC is kind of a big deal. it’s just hilarious (and injuries suck and you hate to see them) that it ended that quick. Quote
Beck Water Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 5 hours ago, stinky finger said: I’ll assume you watched the game. OK, if 16 other teams have a QB who makes the same team-strangling mental mistakes that Josh did Quote
PatsFanNH Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I’m genuinely confused at which play you’re referencing lol two of the picks were bombs into double coverage and one was a play where the ball has to come out before Davis made his break. It was the right read but the throw was too far inside and Davis ran an absolutely atrocious route as he often does. The safety had no business being on that route gabe just made no effort selling that he was going deep All 3 INT he never took his eyes off the receiver.. All 3! Yes 2 were deeper but he never used his eyes to move the defense. Quote
Beck Water Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I’m genuinely confused at which play you’re referencing lol two of the picks were bombs into double coverage and one was a play where the ball has to come out before Davis made his break. It was the right read but the throw was too far inside and Davis ran an absolutely atrocious route as he often does. The safety had no business being on that route gabe just made no effort selling that he was going deep You're correct that there was no "staring down of receivers", but staring down or not, other teams have seen that scene from the movie before - the one where Josh hangs in and is gonna throw it deep to Diggs (or Davis) regardless. The safety knows there are pickings to be had and where they're gonna be. It's true that Davis did not run a route that faked out the safety, but here's the thing - that's a route that Davis has run (and Josh has burnt teams with) a few too many times. Davis could have had shifty hips like Diggs and the safety would have been "Not Today, Fella". There's a phrase "going to the well once too often". In this case, it's going to the well many times too often. Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, PatsFanNH said: All 3 INT he never took his eyes off the receiver.. All 3! Yes 2 were deeper but he never used his eyes to move the defense. Lol I’m not objecting to them being bad decisions but I think looking off the receiver was low on the list of problems with those two deep ones 😂 the pick to gabe was a horrendous route…the safety knew exactly where gabe was going from the snap...I don’t think any amount of looking off changes that one. I’m fine with that read though Quote
Beck Water Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: All 3 INT he never took his eyes off the receiver.. All 3! Yes 2 were deeper but he never used his eyes to move the defense. Dude, get off his eyes, they don't matter here. The defense watches film. The Bills and Allen have become too predictable. What exactly else, what other routes, did Allen have to look at, that you believe would have moved the defense? They were bad decisions - the first was possibly defensible as it was 3rd and long and a punt was inevitable. The 2nd pick was on 2nd down and the third - w00f. 11 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Lol I’m not objecting to them being bad decisions but I think looking off the receiver was low on the list of problems with those two deep ones 😂 the pick to gabe was a horrendous route…the safety knew exactly where gabe was going from the snap...I don’t think any amount of looking off changes that one. I’m fine with that read though You are correct. The problem with the read is, the safety knew he could jump the route because it's been on film with Allen to Davis, a bit too often. And if the Bills don't fix this, and fix this fast, every other safety they play is going to be watching for that. Edited September 12, 2023 by Beck Water Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: You're correct that there was no "staring down of receivers", but staring down or not, other teams have seen that scene from the movie before - the one where Josh hangs in and is gonna throw it deep to Diggs (or Davis) regardless. The safety knows there are pickings to be had and where they're gonna be. It's true that Davis did not run a route that faked out the safety, but here's the thing - that's a route that Davis has run (and Josh has burnt teams with) a few too many times. Davis could have had shifty hips like Diggs and the safety would have been "Not Today, Fella". There's a phrase "going to the well once too often". In this case, it's going to the well many times too often. Gabe is wide open if he runs a crisp route there literally for the reasons you mentioned earlier in the post lol other teams have seen the movie before and he’s usually running a ton of go routes. Probably the laziest route I’ve ever seen. Still an off target throw though Quote
PatsFanNH Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Dude, get off his eyes, they don't matter here. The defense watches film. The Bills and Allen have become too predictable. What exactly else, what other routes, did Allen have to look at, that you believe would have moved the defense? You are correct. The problem with the read is, the safety knew he could jump the route because it's been on film with Allen to Davis, a bit too often. And if the Bills don't fix this, and fix this fast, every other safety they play is going to be watching for that. Lmao what the Bills are only running 1 receiver routes? Look them off like ALL good QBs do. The 2 deep ones ok maybe not another deep route the last one come on? Look around heck maybe you see a better option by LOOKING. Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Dude, get off his eyes, they don't matter here. The defense watches film. The Bills and Allen have become too predictable. What exactly else, what other routes, did Allen have to look at, that you believe would have moved the defense? You are correct. The problem with the read is, the safety knew he could jump the route because it's been on film with Allen to Davis, a bit too often. And if the Bills don't fix this, and fix this fast, every other safety they play is going to be watching for that. Idk gabe seems like he’s almost always running gos to me lol maybe that’s anecdotal and I only pay attention to him when he’s running deep though Quote
Bill from NYC Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 10 hours ago, chongli said: How sweet. I am really moved. 2 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 NY Post sports section already stacking tacky headlines for 2024: 'More in '24'. 'Aaron's Not Done Caring'. Quote
Beck Water Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Idk gabe seems like he’s almost always running gos to me lol maybe that’s anecdotal and I only pay attention to him when he’s running deep though 10 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Gabe is wide open if he runs a crisp route there literally for the reasons you mentioned earlier in the post lol other teams have seen the movie before and he’s usually running a ton of go routes. Probably the laziest route I’ve ever seen. Still an off target throw though See above. You're correct it was a sloppy route, but I don't think a crisp route fakes the safety, because of the route combo. Davis goes to the sideline in that route combo. Edited September 12, 2023 by Beck Water Quote
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