Don Otreply Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, SoonerBillsFan said: It's a team game, but this one is 100% on Josh. It kills me to say it Unfortunately for us fans, Josh has shown himself to be undisciplined, and does not appear to being anything to change that at this point, Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, ticketssince61 said: There was nowhere for Cook to run - those delayed draws right into a clogged line of scrimmage were ridiculous. The one time they had a pitch out he got outside and had a nice gain He's not a run between the tackles type of RB. Breece, JT28, they know how to make themselves skinny through the holes and make yardage. Cook is run to daylight type of RB Quote
BIGFOOTspaceman Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 That’s don’t put bad players on the cover of Madden. Just sayin’ Quote
BillsFan130 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, metbill said: Josh is done, he cant win an important game, how many rimes do we have to see the same thong, Allen turnover, when it counts?!?!? He is a mediocre QB at best, with a crappy coaching staff to pull him thru, no hope. I dont think we will make the playoffs, he looked awful, TOTAL REGRESSION! “Mediocre QB at best….” Good lord some of these overreactions after a game. Josh allen voted a top 10 player in this league by the players, but no you’re right… Hes around the 17-22nd best QB in this league 🙄 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, ticketssince61 said: There was nowhere for Cook to run - those delayed draws right into a clogged line of scrimmage were ridiculous. The one time they had a pitch out he got outside and had a nice gain The delayed draw was an absolute horrible scheme. What is Dorsey thinking. Put Cook behind Josh and give him a running start. Gabe runs lazy routes. Diggs can't do it all. Knox, Harty & Sherfield were invisible. The playbook is ass and Josh's play is regressing. Quote
Big Blitz Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Norcalbillsfan said: Dorsey had a better run game tonight for Allen than I've seen in awhile. Dorsey had some bad calls, but we all saw the TEs and diggs open on those picks. And dorsey didn't call the game tieing fumble by Allen. Allen had guys open tonight and decent run game established. Josh just didn't see the field at all against an elite defense. 15 non Allen carriers for 57 yards. The problem was design; nothing surprised the Jets; and we didn’t run enough. Quote
Franco_92 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 I don't ever want to hear how locked in Josh Allen is again. Words mean nothing, Josh. You gotta show me, man. Quote
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Josh rivers is what he is. He’s not going to play smarter so expect a playoff game and early exit until they move on. Quote
LabattBlue Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 What happened to the smarter Josh Allen who wasn’t going to take unnecessary hits? Quote
AuntieEm Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, CaliBills said: Allen NEEDS to prepare better... Yea wouldn't hurt if he did work out a bit to build up some muscle and what was up with his stumbling over thin air that one snap. I mean come on. Edited September 12, 2023 by AuntieEm Quote
Chicken Boo Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Every team in the league will play Josh Allen this way. He needs a STUD RB to help him. He's not patient enough to stay with the short stuff Someone gets it. Josh isn't going to gunsling this team to a Lombardi. Quote
Big Blitz Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: James Cook was good. 4 catches for 17 yards. 12 carries for 46 yards. Ok. Quote
Peace Frog Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 If Josh has time to bang an actress and make TV commercials, he's got time to watch more game film. This loss is 90% on him. Quote
GunnerBill Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Big Blitz said: 4 catches for 17 yards. 12 carries for 46 yards. Ok. He made a fair few of our first downs. The problem is the Quarterback played like utter *****. Quote
Bferra13 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: I knew that was coming. Just didn’t think it’d be Week 1 Oh it did. I dunno who that guy was, but wasn't the QB I knew. Quote
muppy Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 23 minutes ago, wppete said: There is no recovering from this. This was very bad. is this sarcasm? one game and flush the season. I mean come on mane. SMH, Quote
Mikie2times Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 For me this started when teams stopped giving him the sideline. He will get it once in awhile. But it’s not like it was in 2020-2021. So much of what Allen does was built off improvisation. Likely even better than Mahomes, but teams really focus on taking that away by spying him, slow rushing, boxing him in, playing loose coverage. He’s struggling more in these positions and teams know he will make mistakes if you consistently make him nickle and dime you. He isn’t consistent when just being Johnny QB. He can’t just be Johnny QB. Favre couldn't either. He will have moments. It might even seem like he’s changed, but it will come back again. With this, let’s also not forget that Favre has a ring and is a HOF QB. Allen is still basically our entire team right now. We will live and die with these ups and downs. I suppose we prey he can eventually break these trends. IMO it might require a more cerebral coach. Daboll seemed to understand how to manage this. But perhaps Allen had less freedom then, perhaps he was working more to control it as a “dumb” rookie vs a NFL star. 3 Quote
Norcalbillsfan Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: 15 non Allen carriers for 57 yards. The problem was design; nothing surprised the Jets; and we didn’t run enough. True, it wasn't a dominant run game for yards but I don't feel like the jets shut the run game down tonight. I probably mis phrased that, the run game itself wasn't great, but I felt we got production out of the backfield tonight. Quote
QLBillsFan Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, NoSaint said: a) he’s capable and has done it a bunch b) is the OC somehow totally detached from preparing his QB? That’s not Dorsey’s job at all here? He designs plays. Josh chose to play hero ball like he’s in HS. He did with BD and has done it with Dorsey. You think for 6 years the coaches haven’t told him to take what they give you ? Particularly against the Jets. When underneath quick throws is the best option. Not on Dorsey alone. It’s on the entire senior leadership of this team. McClappy and Beane. I’ve been the biggest JA fan since day one. But we have all seen this movie before. This team depends on him taking responsibility and changing. He will say all the right things. But his actions don’t align. Quote
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