Low Positive Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said: In typical Buffalo fashion, let’s trash our elite QB after one bad game. Maybe the bengals should get rid of burrow after that game yesterday as well Burrow didn't turn the ball over four times. 1 1 Quote
Bangarang Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Norcalbillsfan said: Everyone grabbing the pitch forks on dorsey. Other then the terrible draw call in OT, this loss in completely on Allen. Honestly can't think of bad performances or terrible plays that really hurt the bills by other players. Hell Bernard contributed more than allen tonight. Both were bad. 1 Quote
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Rookie Josh was endearing and adorable, Prime Time Josh was exciting. Elite Josh was next level, God Mode Josh is the best in the game, But something happened the second half of the GB game last year, he hasn’t been the same guy ever since. The argument can be made that it’s actually since DaBoll left. I saw McD and Diggs both tell Josh play smart tonight. Hollywood Josh? Madden Josh? Arrogant Josh? I don’t like it. I don’t think there is ‘no reason to be concerned’ anymore in regards to his decision making. Not sure possibly people being best friends, rather then coach him not to do any of that. Daboll is type not to be people best friends or friends. Quote
Green Lightning Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, What a Tuel said: You are in the wrong thread. The overreaction thread is over there. Allen had a bad game against a good defense, that's clear. The 1st INT was basically a punt. Wish it was a completion, but down it at the 3 yard line, fine. 2nd INT is like wtf are you thinking. 3rd INT is all davis not running good routes and telegraphed his route easily. Fumble, no excuse. Catch the damn snap. You are in la la land. That loss is on Josh. He simply cannot accept the notion of moving the chains at crítical points in the game. Sorry, he literally gave that game away. 4 Quote
Franco_92 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Considering his experience and expectations, this is the worst game of Josh Allen's career and it's not particularly close. The Jets are a house of horrors for him. It will probably take a few years to get out of that funk. He was able to get out of the Bellichick funk, so on an appropriate time scale I'm confident it will happen, but stuff like this is brutal for now 1 Quote
Brandon Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, BillsFan130 said: In typical Buffalo fashion, let’s trash our elite QB after one bad game. Maybe the bengals should get rid of burrow after that game yesterday as well I think he'll be fine and this was just a **** game against a team that matches well against them, but at the same time, Allen deserves plenty of criticism for this one. If he just plays smart and doesn't turn the ball over, the Bills were going to win this game. 1 Quote
CaliBills Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Governor said: 0-1 and so are the chiefs and bengals..... 0-1 doesn't mean jack s*** = Quote
Low Positive Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, BadboyBills said: Let's trade him after his next great game to cash in at maximum value. Go all in for Caleb next year. Should have most assets to move up from 32 to 1st overall, maybe throw in Diggs too Let people vent. 1 Quote
Nator99 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 I’ve had jr with the Allen excuses and people here always unwilling to call it like it is. How dare we mock Tua yesterday and think Allen is head and shoulders above him. Allen is a JAG. He is not elite. You don’t throw 3 unneeded INt to a second rate DB from Pitt. Good God I’m so angry. 1 1 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, FrenchConnection said: Burrow didn't turn the ball over four times. Ok and? He got 3 points and 81 yards passing. What good is that?.. Quote
Since1981 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Norcalbillsfan said: 7 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Everyone grabbing the pitch forks on dorsey. Other then the terrible draw call in OT, this loss in completely on Allen. Yes. But he needs someone literally in his ear to chew him out or calm him down. Dabs was that. Dorsey is not. Edited September 12, 2023 by Since1981 2 Quote
ticketssince61 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, KeLLy1278 said: Forget it. Allen was trash. The team lost to the Jets with a backup quarterback. Not only a backup QB - but one who did not have game preparation Quote
QLBillsFan Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Josh isn’t capable of taking what a D gives him. He’s not able to play smart. On the Gabe Davis int he had Kincaid with a 5 yard out for the first down. That’s the throw. That’s not on Dorsey.. the other two were just complete nonsense. The fumble snap .. he gathers the ball. Instead of just protecting the ball he tries to run into the heart of the D line for no logical reason. Our OL sucks. But if Josh intelligently takes what they give him the Bills win 19-10 or 19-13. But he can’t!!! That is simple as it gets. 2 3 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Dorsey ain’t it. Neither is James Cook. James Cook was good. 1 3 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, CaliBills said: Allen and Dorsey, that is it. that is why we lost. They need to do better period. Dorsey obviously can't get through to Josh and Josh is way too stubborn to listen & learn. He makes the same stupid mistakes while he relies 100% on his athleticism. This poor playbook and reckless play from your qb is not sustainable. 1 2 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Norcalbillsfan said: Everyone grabbing the pitch forks on dorsey. Other then the terrible draw call in OT, this loss in completely on Allen. Honestly can't think of bad performances or terrible plays that really hurt the bills by other players. Hell Bernard contributed more than allen tonight. Yup people want to blame anyone but Allen but he’s at fault. He has the most Turnovers in the league the last 5 years. He had 4 tonight. Hello, cut em in half and you prob have one of the greatest QBs in history 1 1 Quote
FieldGeneral Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 I'm tired of people's excuses. He relies on his athleticism far too often. Games against good defenses shows this way too often to be an outlier. Do this against a team with a good starting QB, we get absolutely blown out. 1 Quote
Brand J Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Allen can’t be the reason his team loses the game. He just can’t. As a QB in his 6th year, with all the physical tools in the world, his mental game is behind the other top QBs and even Tua and I don’t think there’s any debating that. His floor is the basement and it doesn’t look like it’ll ever become the first floor. He’s just not reading the field as well as he needs to and no offensive coordinator can account for or overcome that. Not even the great Andy Reid. I don’t know what the answer is, but this team will never win a Super Bowl if he’s the reason for losses. 1 1 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Brandon said: I think he'll be fine and this was just a **** game against a team that matches well against them, but at the same time, Allen deserves plenty of criticism for this one. If he just plays smart and doesn't turn the ball over, the Bills were going to win this game. For sure , this is perfectly said. This game is def on Josh and he was awful. But man, the over reactions here when people want to ride him out of town is absolutely ridiculous 3 Quote
BillzFreak Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, wppete said: There is no recovering from this. This was very bad. Oh we can recover and go on winning streaks and even get a number 1 seed. But I'm telling you I'm not confident Allen has what it takes when it means the most. Honestly he is very talented but when crap starts to roll downhill he can't calm himself down enough to rebound it. I don't think you can learn that either, all time Quaterbacks have that sense of calm in big moments, our Qb looks like he is hopped up on Adderall lol. 2 Quote
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