The Josh Allen excuse thread…

[frostbitmic]

We'll have to watch the tape.

 

Football is a tough game for tough payple

 

We'll work hard this week to correct some problems

 

We played not 1 but 2 future HOF QB's in one game.

 

You don't win in this league turning the ball over 4 times in a game.

[zow2]

Nick Wright is a douche but his takes on Allen today are pretty funny,, Unfortunately being a Bills fan it hurts but he's not wrong.

[colin]

6 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:

The commercials are getting to his head. Notice the best football he ever played was before the commercials started

 

i think this is a factor here.

 

i remember the documentaries about the bears in 85 and how ditka went mad hollywood and it just blew the team up.  not saying allen is like that or that bad, but if you're profile goes from "he's a bust" to getting 8/9 figures for ads, you better not drop an ounce of effort form "the process". 

 

diggs was there to make josh who he is, so if he's loosing his gourd over that, i totally understand.

 

that whitlock narrative is gonna get hotter and hotter until josh shows improve.

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

2 hours ago, FrenchConnection said:

We play the Jets again, the Pats twice, and the Eagles and the Cowboys. They need to solve this.

The thing is, you don’t really solve great defenses. What we needed last night was for Allen to only have one turnover and not four. That would’ve been the difference in the game likely.

 

or to convert another touchdown on one of our Redzone trips instead of settling for a field goal. Or having one extra field goal drive, would you likely would’ve occurred by cutting down the turnovers.

 

in other words, yes, the bills offense needs to be better but not by much.  it’s never going to look great or maybe even good against elite defenses. And that’s actually normal.

 

The Super Bowls where we have a top offense against a top defense are good examples of this. The defense almost always dictate a low-scoring game, and below average offensive performance.

 

[BullBuchanan]

Emotionally exhausted.

[C.Biscuit97]

Positive Allen stat: has told none of his teammates to go back to Africa!!!

[Coach Tuesday]

0-5 in OT for Josh.  Oof.

[k2mountain]

Excuse? You've heard of the Madden Curse. Step aside Madden, there's a new curse in town. The Paramount+ curse. How did these three fare in week one?

 

[Pete]

Josh is not the same QB after the big hit in Green Bay game ("I love this *****" hit).   He has lost his moxie.  His body language sucks, his concentration suck.  I love you Josh, but he is lost now

[K-9]

14 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Worst game Allen probably has ever played including HS and college.

Can you see the hope in that sentence? Allen plays the worst game of his career and yet we still force OT against perhaps the best defense we will see all year, in their house in front of a sold out frenzied crowd on opening night? 
 

If it takes Allen playing his worst game for teams to beat us, I like our chances moving forward. 

[Royale with Cheese]

Just now, K-9 said:

Can you see the hope in that sentence? Allen plays the worst game of his career and yet we still force OT against perhaps the best defense we will see all year, in their house in front of a sold out frenzied crowd on opening night? 
 

If it takes Allen playing his worst game for teams to beat us, I like our chances moving forward. 

 

It is a good point and WGR has pointed that out too.

It takes us sh****** our bed for them to beat us and it's only by one score.  We shoot ourselves in the foot.

[Green Lightning]

1 minute ago, K-9 said:

Can you see the hope in that sentence? Allen plays the worst game of his career and yet we still force OT against perhaps the best defense we will see all year, in their house in front of a sold out frenzied crowd on opening night? 
 

If it takes Allen playing his worst game for teams to beat us, I like our chances moving forward. 

And for the other team to lose their HOF QB on the first series of the game. 

[Bferra13]

A lot of concussion rumors floating around the internet today. First thing he says in camp is he has to play saferband smarter. Then goes out there and does everything he can to completely destroy himself. You can't make this stuff up. 

[K-9]

8 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:

And for the other team to lose their HOF QB on the first series of the game. 

Losing AR had nothing to do with Josh crapping the bed but we can speculate that we were able to keep it close only because Rodgers got hurt. But that argument is speculative at best and that speculation runs in both directions. 

[Toyo321]

It is really bad when every media outlet this morning is saying what Josh looked like in his post game interview      Sighhhhhhh........Huhhhhhh.  Same ***** different place, different day.  " I hurt our team, I cost our team tonight!!! "

 

The same crap different year.  The comments alone is the deal breaker for me.   That is a person that has not learned anything from his mistakes this past offseason and then some,  and is incapable of doing so right now.  He is reading from the same cue cards that he has used in the last two years.  Its complete garbage spewing out of his mouth at this point.  He is a 6 year Vet QB on a $258M contract.  He is not a rookie and he is not in college anymore.  His responses are not sincere anymore.  It's just the same lame old script.  He has shown no dedication to fix his underlying faults and that is also on his coaches too.  His lack of growth is squarely on him and his coaching.  You need to want to get better and do everything at your disposal to accomplish this.  I don't see it now 2 years in a row.

 

Josh is at this point a liability until he learns that the team comes first, the 1st down is more important than the long TD throw,  and that his bad decisions are no longer a laughing matter, he is losing games just with his mistakes alone now.  He is the reason this team is 0-1 right now.  

 

Like they said JA17 has the most turnovers by any quarterback that signed a multiyear deal in the last 6 years and it isn't even close.

 

No one is close to his TO total stats.  

 

It is a real big problem.  No one is laughing about this anymore on any media outlet, he is getting thrown under the bus because he deserves it.

 

Zach Wilson did more to not hurt his teams chances to win last night,  JA17 did the exact opposite he gave this game to the Jets  last night and he is making $258 Million on top of it. 

 

This is not what a true vet QB does.  No way in hell.

 

 

[Franco_92]

19 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:

And for the other team to lose their HOF QB on the first series of the game. 

Disingenuous. Rodgers looked old and decrepit from the first snap. That guy wasn't going to be any more of a problem than Wilson was.

[wnyguy]

14 hours ago, zevo said:

There shouldn’t be excuses anymore. I’m tired of looking at his face on the sidelines. He was not good. This pattern has continued from last season. The play calling is putrid. It’s all of it. It’s week 1 and I’m tired of this team already. They are ***** exhausting. 

Well..........bye.

[K-9]

3 hours ago, Green Lightning said:

Those are stupid statements, but Josh has proven time and again that when he is frustrated by 2 high safety or solid D, he has no discipline or the will to take what the D gives. He gets reckless -- thinks he can do it himself. Now he's picked up where he left off last year -- a turnover machine. He has no sense for situational football. 3rd and 2 with a TE open five yards away he rifles it way downfield into tight coverage. Just move the damn chains in a tight game Josh, but no. He goes into reckless mode. I can't hear his post game "I need to do a better job of protecting the ball" anymore. Be the Josh we saw last year against the Rams and stop the goddamn hero ball. DCs are taking away your favorite plays Josh and the downfield opportunities won't open back up until you discipline yourself with the short game. It's time to mature.

He certainly had the discipline and will on the 11 play scoring drive, the second 11 play scoring drive, the 9 play scoring drive, and then the next 9 play scoring drive. So he’s proved he can be patient and take what’s given, especially against a dominant defense that demands you have to be patient and take what’s given. 
 

The maddening thing about Allen is why he gets away from it and insists on playing hero ball. Wish we had the answer. 

Edited September 12, 2023 by K-9

[Mikie2times]

4 minutes ago, K-9 said:

He certainly had the discipline and will on the 11 play scoring drive, the second 11 play scoring drive, the 9 play scoring drive, and then the next 9 play scoring drive. So he’s proved he can be patient and take what’s given, especially against a dominant defense that demands you have to be patient and take what’s given. 
 

The maddening thing about Allen is why he gets away from it and insists on playing hero ball. Wish we had the answer. 

I mean, isn't that the main issue? For a lot of people doing the right, hard, whatever thing is not that big of a deal. The big deal is doing the right, hard, whatever thing all the time. 

 

What puts Josh at risk of these breakdowns? If Josh stays within the playbook, he is less likely to make the wrong decision. If he deviates outside the playbook, he is depending on instincts and vision in a split second to never make mistakes. These moments are what give him greatness along with inconsistency. Josh needs to learn how to be great at reading defenses. Getting the ball out quickly and in rhythm. Being a normal QB. It is not any more complicated than that. 

 

 

[Success]

Gotta say - I'm not a big fan of the concept of this thread.

 

Allen is likely to go down as the best QB in franchise history.  He was the "right Josh" from day 1, and has emerged as the clear best QB from that draft.  He has carried the team on his shoulders basically every season to this point, and pulled wins out on his own at times.  He leads this team to double-digit wins and playoff appearances every season.

 

I'd expect a thread like this for a Losman or Taylor or any one of the middlin' QB's we've had since Kelly.  Allen doesn't really deserve this for a terrible game 1 this year.  Would anyone here really want him NOT to be our QB?