ChronicAndKnuckles Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: He seemed to wake up in that drive, but then made a mess of the one in OT, though the 2 and 15 call was baffling, to put it politely. That false start on Spencer Brown was a killer. It took the run threat away which was what kept us in the whole game. Quote
Milanos Milano Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, The Frankish Reich said: Just because that will never, ever happen. Then Allen is never going to win us a Super Bowl. He isn’t doing what needs to be done and being stubborn. 1 2 Quote
90sBills Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 51 minutes ago, Peace Frog said: If Josh has time to bang an actress and make TV commercials, he's got time to watch more game film. This loss is 90% on him. He doesn’t want to overindulged in watching films. He prefers to rely on his in game instincts. Unfortunately for fans his instincts are to jump over linebackers for no apparent reasons and passing up easy throws to thread the needle into the opposing db’s hands. 3 1 1 Quote
Nelius Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, 90sBills said: He doesn’t want to overindulged in watching films. He prefers to rely on his in game instincts. Unfortunately for fans his instincts are to jump over linebackers for no apparent reasons and passing up easy throws to thread the needle into the opposing db’s hands. Apparently as of today it’s also diving three yards short of the first down. 3 Quote
balln Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, BadboyBills said: Josh did help get the game tied. He's remarkable in 4th quarter come backs. It's been the D usually letting us down in the end, tonight's was ST's He needs to get TDs . Bucs game. At Mia game last year. There’s a lot. he has final drive w 1 :48. Needed a td. We got a 50 yard FG. 1 Quote
mileslong13 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Josh needs to focus on studying firm and getting better at his craft and not so much Hollywood. Someone on the internet said the same thing. Dorsey need to coach on the field and not in the booth. I can see why Diggs is frustrated. 1 Quote
Dopey Posted September 12, 2023 Author Posted September 12, 2023 I know I started this thread, but I’m not down on Josh. Or the team. I believe he’ll bounce back from this. The reason for the thread was because there are a ton of opinions on why we haven’t been to or won a sb with this current edition of the Bills and Josh is hardly mentioned. I hate that it took a game like this, but he’s part of the conversation now. But I’m not down on Josh. I am encouraged that this team still had a chance to win this game at the end. I was encouraged that Dorsey and Allen got us in field goal range for Bass to take it to OT. Hopefully that’s a start for Allen and the offense. Kudos to the defense for holding down the fort. Kudos to Bass. Quote
jaybills Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, ChrisWatson#21 said: The Jets are really his pappy. Looks like a rookie out there when he goes against them. Funny you say that because his hero ball bs reminded me of his rookie year. Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 What I fear more than anything is the Bills pulling the chord on the guy and opening him up for trade and some real offensive guru gets a hold of him and wins a Super Bowl and we are left back at square one with a new regime. Every offensive coach in the league right now is thinking just let me work with this guy. Quote
Low Positive Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said: What I fear more than anything is the Bills pulling the chord on the guy and opening him up for trade and some real offensive guru gets a hold of him and wins a Super Bowl and we are left back at square one with a new regime. Every offensive coach in the league right now is thinking just let me work with this guy. They won't. Josh will retire a Bill, for better or for worse. 2 Quote
UKBillFan Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said: What I fear more than anything is the Bills pulling the chord on the guy and opening him up for trade and some real offensive guru gets a hold of him and wins a Super Bowl and we are left back at square one with a new regime. Every offensive coach in the league right now is thinking just let me work with this guy. Providing his body can deliver what his brain should be telling him. He says he knows he has to protect the football. He says he needs to be more sensible with the running game. Pretty sure he said he needs to take what’s given. Yet when he starts doing this (see the first half), he bizarrely slips back to old traits. Can he be taught? 1 1 Quote
Nextmanup Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Every offensive coach in the league right now is thinking just let me work with this guy. If that's true, then why the hell can't we get one of them in here, while Josh is still young-ish. What is supposed to be special about Dorsey? Quote
John from Riverside Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 exactly how many excuses have to be made for Josh Alle Over the course of his career, he has been outstanding He had an off night we lost press on 1 1 Quote
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 He played like shite tonight. My wife watched and said, "he's worked so hard" in ref to his body. The guy will be back better. bad game but it's OK... 1 Quote
nbbillsfan Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Can’t sustain offense when a majority of the successful passing plays happen outside the framework of the play design. A lot of this falls on Dorsey, but an equal amount falls on Allen. This has been a problem for years, even when Daboll was here (although to a lesser extent). Allen is my favorite professional alrhlete of all time, but I’m afriad he may not have the elite processing needed to be anything more then one of the best backyard football QB’s ever. 1 Quote
cgg716 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 He was definitely trash, but even that included 70 percent completions. His coaches are trash, scheme doesn't fit the personnel on offense. And we invest money and resources into the D every year, only to never be able to stop the run. Excuses? Maybe, but the organization is a dumpster fire. Look no further than Kincaid and Elam. Problems run WAY deeper than josh 1 1 Quote
par73 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 21 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Providing his body can deliver what his brain should be telling him. He says he knows he has to protect the football. He says he needs to be more sensible with the running game. Pretty sure he said he needs to take what’s given. Yet when he starts doing this (see the first half), he bizarrely slips back to old traits. Can he be taught? This is a 27 year old man in his 6th year at QB in the NFL. Not a rookie-- or in his 2nd or 3rd year. What indicates that he can learn to play differently, at this point? 1 Quote
Buffalo03 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 The commercials are getting to his head. Notice the best football he ever played was before the commercials started 1 Quote
buffalobillswin Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 More time watching film and less time canoodling actresses Quote
Casual fan Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Serious question: Could it be Josh Allen needs glasses? The fumbled snap was unexpected. But there is unexpected like you're sitting at a picnic table with your hamburger and potato salad and someone snaps you a football. And there is unexpected like you're in a game doing the snap count and someone snaps you the ball a second early. That's why I wondered do they do eye exams every year and might he need glasses? Quote
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