Rc2catch Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 I don’t get on Mcdermott much, but this one is agitating. Guy needs to play. Rotate or whatever but he needs to be out there. Hope this is just more of a message to correct whatever issue he may have. I don’t mind Benford beating him out and being more comfy in the zone. Maybe just me but I’d much rather see Elam out there pressing Wilson at the line than seeing Benford 9 yards back praying he don’t get beat over the top on 3rd and 6 3 Quote
SirAndrew Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: He was the best CB in the playoffs last year. Not sure how he hasn’t proven himself. This is on the coach for not figuring out how to use his skills . That’s fair, and I don’t believe that Benford and Jackson are that much better, if at all. It’s like he’s punished for not living up to his draft position. That’s not fully his fault, and you need to see what you’ve got with those picks. This is the one part of McD’s coaching style I don’t love . Quote
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Disagree completely. He should know it by now. Benford didn’t have any issues picking it up. Cool. Quote
Brand J Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 Elam would benefit from a fresh start and if you asked him candidly I’m sure he’d welcome one. It stings even more when you consider we traded up for him. 1 Quote
MPL Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: I'm betting this is drugs or alcohol. He is more talented than Benford or Jackson and he has played better. Has to be more to the story. I'm not ready to go that far... but it definitely seems like there is more than this than meets the eye. Just now, JayBaller10 said: Elam would benefit from a fresh start and if you asked him candidly I’m sure he’d welcome one. It stings even more when you consider we traded up for him. What really stings is that on draft night, it seemed like Trent McDuffie was the guy they really wanted 1 Quote
ShakAttack Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: Thank God the Kincaid pick looks like it's going to be a slam dunk If that ends up being the case and the 2 players on offense EVER drafted by Beane in the first round are Allen and Kincaid, we should all expect him to draft offense more often. Not to mention, you've already got the franchise QB now, so it increases the likelihood of success for talented skill position players on offense. Quote
QLBillsFan Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Rc2catch said: I don’t get on Mcdermott much, but this one is agitating. Guy needs to play. Rotate or whatever but he needs to be out there. Hope this is just more of a message to correct whatever issue he may have. I don’t mind Benford beating him out and being more comfy in the zone. Maybe just me but I’d much rather see Elam out there pressing Wilson at the line than seeing Benford 9 yards back praying he don’t get beat over the top on 3rd and 6 I’m with you but Lewis can play S and CB and special teams. How did he go from his notebook and winning the interview to this. Hard to understand 🤷🏻♂️ 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Rc2catch said: I don’t get on Mcdermott much, but this one is agitating. Guy needs to play. Rotate or whatever but he needs to be out there. Hope this is just more of a message to correct whatever issue he may have. I don’t mind Benford beating him out and being more comfy in the zone. Maybe just me but I’d much rather see Elam out there pressing Wilson at the line than seeing Benford 9 yards back praying he don’t get beat over the top on 3rd and 6 That just isn't how the Bills are going to play defense. I get fans hate it because it isn't "aggressive" but it has been pretty successful for them and I don't think they are going to change it. I think they drafted Elam telling themselves they were more willing to use some press-man as a wrinkle in the scheme but then in reality they just are not comfortable playing that way. They want to be a bend don't break, keep it in front, limit the big play style of defense. Quote
Eastport bills Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 Just now, whorlnut said: I see it the other way…I think it’s completely killed his confidence. I honestly feel bad for the kid. I can’t imagine the shame he must feel after being a first round pick. He should have been dealt and given a second chance on a team that fit his strengths. I don’t think we should give up on him because what the scouting dept. saw in him coming out is in there. He’s just not preparing well enough. At this level, talent does not guarantee playing time. Let’s hope Sean and the DB coaches can get it out of him. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, MPL said: What really stings is that on draft night, it seemed like Trent McDuffie was the guy they really wanted He wasn't. He doesn't meet their physical profile for corners. 1 Quote
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: That just isn't how the Bills are going to play defense. I get fans hate it because it isn't "aggressive" but it has been pretty successful for them and I don't think they are going to change it. I think they drafted Elam telling themselves they were more willing to use some press-man as a wrinkle in the scheme but then in reality they just are not comfortable playing that way. They want to be a bend don't break, keep it in front, limit the big play style of defense. Stupid, wasteful draft pick. 1 Quote
AuntieEm Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Disagree completely. He should know it by now. Benford didn’t have any issues picking it up. And without a trusty notebook too. Edited September 11, 2023 by AuntieEm Quote
Big Blitz Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 Breece Hall is not. Sorry don’t care I’m going to pound that table till I see an RB on this team do Breece Hall things. Quote
whorlnut Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Agree with this. He is going to be used as a matchup corner till he learns the system better. cOoL Quote
MPL Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 Just now, GunnerBill said: 4 minutes ago, MPL said: What really stings is that on draft night, it seemed like Trent McDuffie was the guy they really wanted He wasn't. He doesn't meet their physical profile for corners. Well, then I guess this whole thing stings a little less. I'm feeling better already! Quote
Aussie Joe Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Wasn’t he pick 27? Not like we grabbed him at 10. Nah… just a late first and a fourth Quote
QLBillsFan Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 1 minute ago, AuntieEm said: And without a trusty notebook too. It’s either a will or skill at this point. Seems to have some skill. Quote
whorlnut Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 Just now, AuntieEm said: And without a trusty notebook too. Hahahahha…seriously. Gotta give Elam credit though…he used that tool to dupe Beane into making him a first round pick. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 Just now, MPL said: Well, then I guess this whole thing stings a little less. I'm feeling better already! Ha it still stings that they drafted a guy who clearly wasn't a natural scheme fit for their scheme after trading up in round 1 and now won't put him on the field because he isn't a natural scheme fit for their scheme..... 1 1 1 2 Quote
Brand J Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 T Woolen was a genetic freak, but thought to be a project. He went in the 5th round. Who knew he’d play like a first round corner his first year? It’s all a gamble. I’d rather Beane trade down than up. Should also mention I was against the Kincaid trade up, but that’s looking like a solid one. Most others - besides Josh Allen - we could’ve done without. Quote
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