2023 NFL Season - Week #1 - Bills at Jets - Post game game thread

[JJGauna]

Josh lost the game, plain and simple. Playcall in OT was a joke but we should of never been there.

[Big Blitz]

That 3rd and 2 pass call told me all I needed to know about Dorsey in year 2.  
 

I’m done.  He doesn’t get it - or he doesn’t trust our run game.  Which I doubt.  
 

He doesn’t have the in game awareness and Saleh kicked his a** in the 2nd half.  

[Niagara Dude]

1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Pretty much this.  This is why I wish Pegula had a culture of accountability but we basically have the opposite.  McBeane got their contracts extended.  Josh is a child with no one challenging him to grow up.  There are zero grownups in the house.

The problem I see is the buddy buddy connection with Beane and McDermott,  how many terrible picks have we had?

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, Aireskoi said:

Diggs lined up on Sauce Gardner's side until the final drive from what I could see.  Why would they intentionally do that when they could line Diggs anywhere, and had all Summer to game plan for this?  Somehow Troy Aikman knew that Gardner doesn't follow the #1 WR to the offensive left side or slot, but the game plan didn't move Diggs away from him till the end?  What am I missing here?

Lack of details by Dorsey?

[Mopreme]

1 minute ago, Success said:

My optimistic take:

 

We've tried the whole "tear through the league in Sept. & Oct., then fizzle out" thing.

 

Maybe we learned some lessons tonight.  If Allen didn't have that kind of game, we win easy - the D looked good, Kincaid looked good, there were a lot of positives outside of JA.

 

We can hopefully string together a couple of wins against sub-par teams now, and see where we really stand when Miami comes to town.

 

Haha.  Miami will crush them. 

[cgg716]

6 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

10-7 team. Josh needs to be better.

 

Jets D is best in league.

 

Dorsey is terrible. The concept offense needs a twist with creativity and designed plays for our playmakers.

 

our Safeties our a step behind.

 

Bills still have a championship roster, but offensively I just don’t think Dorsey is the mastermind and can do it. Said it last year

Can't emphasize enough how far from a championship roster this is. Couple that with coaching not good enough to hide some of those holes, and you get tonight 

[GETTOTHE50]

1 minute ago, Rc2catch said:

My take is mcd, Dorsey and Allen. 
Josh clearly wasn’t wearing his cape. You signed Harris and Murray for a reason. Pound it. Call the game and take the ball out of his hands a little. This is not that hard. Plenty of teams with less talent can run the ball effecting by simply continuing to do it repeatedly. Just a silly loss in a game that should have been over at halftime 

the only way to 'pound it' so to speak is to give a running back a downhill lane with a handoff from under center.

 

dorsey only calls shotgun plays

[MikePJ76]

1 minute ago, billsherd said:

Some of the zip on Allen throws is missing. Hid mechanics looked bad.  OT throws were awful. 

he took a beating tonight. 

 

he was getting hit on every passing play.

[HerdMentality]

Just never really game planned for Zack Wilson……

[Roundybout]

Dorsey makes me so unbelievably mad. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Me, at 6:30 pm today in the pre-game thread:

 

 

[Billz4ever]

It's pretty clear between Dorsey and Josh, they aren't the tandem that can win a championship.

[ArdmoreRyno]

4 minutes ago, Playoffs? said:

That series in overtime couldn’t have been worse.

 

false start

poor throw / poor drop by knox

draw play - WTF!!!!!!

poor throw by Allen

 

Bills deserved to lose. Diggs is the only player I trust on this team right now. 

 

You can't blame Dawson for that. He can't catch every horrible pass Josh throws up. 

[Mopreme]

Just now, Niagara Dude said:

The problem I see is the buddy buddy connection with Beane and McDermott,  how many terrible picks have we

[PBF81]

2 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

... and our offensive play calling is baffling. 

 

The lack of any creativity or adjusting for the Jets D in the 2nd Half is absolutely mystefying.  

 

 

[Playoffs?]

1 minute ago, Beck Water said:

 

In case you weren’t watching, Diggs let the DB get position on him on the deep ball where better tracking could have at least let him defend.

Diggs also got called for a penalty.

 

Obviously the loss is on Allen, but let’s not please canonize Diggs.

I did watch.  I thought the deep pass was a horrible decision by Allen. I thought the push-off was a weak call. 
 

Regardless, my statement about Diggs was more in general. Not just this game. 
 

I still can’t get over how terrible Allen was, and how crappy our coaching was.

[Billznut]

1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Pretty much this.  This is why I wish Pegula had a culture of accountability but we basically have the opposite.  McBeane got their contracts extended.  Josh is a child with no one challenging him to grow up.  There are zero grownups in the house.

Josh runs this franchise. NO ONE is going to tell him no about anything. Look who the OC is. That’s Josh’s decision. Look who the backup qbs are. That’s Josh’s decision. Everybody knows, including McD and Beane, Josh Allen will be here longer than them. And yes rhia is now a huge problem because there is no one who can control Josh. Yes plenty of other franchise qbs have had this type of control of a team, but almost any of those other qbs, have won super bowls and have earned their say. 

[Behindenemylines]

1 minute ago, zow2 said:

Only the Bills would almost immediately waste a heroic Bass Doink and just fall apart in OT.  Most teams would take the MO and win it 

Most teams wouldn’t have let it get to the point of overtime against the MILF hunter.  

[ngbills]

Man a lot to digest. Confirmed as feared:

 

Brown is not good enough at RT

Bernard is not good enough at MLB

We have no weapons outside of Diggs

Return coverage is awful

Dorsey is in over his head

Our S are getting slow

 

New concerns:

Allen looks like a guy that thinks he can just show up and play. He was lost tonight.

Our running was worse than last year. 
Losing the turnover battle. 
Our double TE scheme is too easy to defend if we are out of the shotgun. 

 

 

 

[SoMAn]

I was right to be skeptical with all Josh’s off-season talk about playing smarter and protecting the ball. Josh gonna be Josh. As great as he can be, I don’t know that he’ll ever overcome his instinct to play schoolyard football when he gets pressured.