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I have said it several times and I mean it. Get to the Super Bowl this year or bring in a new coach. Sometimes guys are good enough to get it started but another guy has to finish it.

 

I’ll forever be in debt to McDermott. He came into a pathetic organization and not only stopped the bleeding, he instantly made us good. We are now a top tier organization and a model for others to follow. Monday through Saturday this guy is great. We are always prepared and almost never get outclassed.
 

On game day he is horrendous. The game day roster management, in game decisions, clock management and lack of defensive flexibility is inexcusable. The backbone of this team is the offense and unfortunately to this point we havent been able to overcome the other phase. You have the best player in the NFL at the most important position in sports. You have had 5 or 6 legitimate kicks at the can here. Get to the Super Bowl this year or we have to see what another guy can do. It’s not fair to us, it’s not fair to Josh, it’s not fair to the players on this team. Get there or hire Belichek for 2 years. He will win the superbowl in one.

 

All this being said….zero chance we fire him. Unless he leaves on his own we are stuck with him. So..go win it all this year then I’ll never bring it up again.

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3 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

Just to quiet the witch hunt and eliminate the conversations. If there's some type of terrible blunder/mismanagement of the clock, I could see a world where he gets canned, sadly. I love McD and everything he stands for, for the record. 

 

It would have to be a very terrible blunder for him to get canned this year I think. I'm not sure I see it. Not saying he should be safe if he makes a poor coaching decision, but I think he would be unless it genuinely was like very terrible. 

 

Agree to calm the narrative around him down he needs to at least get to the AFCCG. If he does that and loses there to KC or Baltimore there would still be criticism but it would be considerably less vociferous. 

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3 hours ago, BeastMaster said:

McDermott and his defense are destined to fail in the postseason. He is terrible against the top QB's and his coaching counterparts 

 

It's literally up to Brady and Allen to completely overwhelm the opposing defense to come out on top in a matchup against KC and maybe even Baltimore now with Henry to open things up for Lamar. 

pretty much.  I am willing to go with that.  we're in a better place than anyone predicted, so I am good. 

 

This entire board had this as a 're build' year with super low expectations.   Now, its SB or fire the coach.   Make up your minds, please.   What a strange bunch. 

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8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It would have to be a very terrible blunder for him to get canned this year I think. I'm not sure I see it. Not saying he should be safe if he makes a poor coaching decision, but I think he would be unless it genuinely was like very terrible. 

 

Agree to calm the narrative around him down he needs to at least get to the AFCCG. If he does that and loses there to KC or Baltimore there would still be criticism but it would be considerably less vociferous. 

Totally agree. It's sad that we live in a world where we even have to have this discussion, but it's become a tense situation because the Josh Allen Superbowl biological clock is ticking.

For the record, I believe the Bills make it to a SB this year, and beat the Eagles. 

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3 hours ago, VaMilBill said:

I really believe that with the Sabres being a mess and Terry’s and Kim’s medical issues at home, I don’t think Terry will want to fire McD and destabilize the bills. He’s got a good thing going and needs to sell PSLs at the new stadium still. McD can win. It just hasn’t translated to the post-season

totally agreed. 

Terry has a personal situation I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.   In fact, the last thing i want is Terry knee-jerking this stuff and screwing up the Bills as well. 

McBeanes have this thing on autopilot and Terry will let them run it.   

McBeanes have been and will always be a package deal, you get them both or you lose them both.  

 

Fan base needs to get over themselves.   This team is killing it.   Be happy people.  

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2 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

pretty much.  I am willing to go with that.  we're in a better place than anyone predicted, so I am good. 

 

This entire board had this as a 're build' year with super low expectations.   Now, its SB or fire the coach.   Make up your minds, please.   What a strange bunch. 

 

Neither McDermott nor Beane are getting fired as Terry likes both as his HC/GM. I wish Beane and McDermott would stop with smaller, finesse type of defense that we have. It doesn't work especially against good teams and QB's. I would like to see a bigger, more physical defense that does a better job stopping the run and getting after the QB. Think Steelers defense as an example. Of course, Beane has to find these players in the draft which is easier said than done.

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I don't think he is on the hot seat. This team is in a reset year with no cap space. There were people not even expecting us to win the division or make the playoffs. I mean at some point if he keeps getting tossed early you have to say "This guy just can't get it done." I don't think that is this year though. The guy is a great coach. I don't know if he is good enough but he is still a great coach. At the same time, we can't waste Josh Allen every year. We won't have him forever and it would be a catastrophe if he never won a super bowl because of coaching.

 

I think if we got tossed in the WC then next year he would be on the hot seat. I'm glad I don't make these decisions.

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First round exit I think there’s a chance he’s fired this year but it’s a very small one, divisional round exit and his seat gets hot next year, conference championship loss and he’s fine imo 

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2 hours ago, Blackbeard said:

I see nothing critiquing the play of the personnel, the personnel itself, schedule, injuries, weather, luck, or anything OTHER than the head coach. 

 

A few main reasons. For one, it is widely believed that McD has a big say in personnel. Secondly, because those other things aren’t why we have lost in the most spectacular games.

 

- Mishandling of 13 seconds didn’t come down to schedule, injuries, weather or luck. It was just coaching.

 

- Passing three times at the 1 yard line at the end of the game didn’t come down to schedule, injuries, weather or luck. It was just coaching.

 

- Having 12 guys on the field for a missed Broncos field goal didn’t come down to schedule, injuries, weather or luck. It was just coaching.

 

- Attempting a fake punt with Damar Hamlin in the playoffs didn’t come down to personnel, schedule, injuries, weather or luck. It was just coaching.

 

I do agree that injuries were the reason we lost to the Chiefs in the playoffs last year. I think we win that game with our full defense.

 

And I also agree that we need ti keep McD.

 

 

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Always so easy to be critical in the peanut gallery. Firing MCd would gut the morale and culture of the team and organization. What….Beane gonna team up with a new guy? Those two could go to a team as a pair and would be welcomed as heroes and would likely do great. 
 

All you hot seat guys please tell us who you are gonna hire and how it’s actually gonna work out 

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Why wouldn't McDermott be on the hot seat if they lose. His teams and especially his defenses have way under performed and been down right terrible in the playoffs. I'm sick of excuse making for this guy, either get the job done with the #1 player at the #1 position in his prime in the NFL or get the eff out! 

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Every coach can't win the big game until they do. But Sean's defense does need to show up in the playoffs this year. This is as healthy as they've been. If this season ends up in another early departure, I think the defensive personnel needs a complete overhaul 

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3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

If the Bills had lost that game it would have been on offensive turnovers and special teams blunders, not because the Bills had any trouble with Skylar Thompson.


Your Gold Standard is that McClapper’s D stopped Skylar Thompson? 🙄

Which they didn’t,regardless of field placement. 
 

Well don’t worry about that clown this year.

 

Instead,you’re gonna get Herbert or Nix.

Then Lamar.

Then Mahomes.

Then either Goff, Hurts or Darnold.

 

How is that gonna work out? 

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

If the Bills had lost that game it would have been on offensive turnovers and special teams blunders, not because the Bills had any trouble with Skylar Thompson.


Your Gold Standard is that McClapper’s D stopped Skylar Thompson? 🙄

Which they didn’t,regardless of field placement. 
 

Well don’t worry about that clown this year.

 

Instead,you’re gonna get Herbert or Nix.

Then Lamar.

Then Mahomes.

Then either Goff, Hurts or Darnold.

 

How is that gonna work out? 

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

If the Bills had lost that game it would have been on offensive turnovers and special teams blunders, not because the Bills had any trouble with Skylar Thompson.


Your Gold Standard is that McClapper’s D stopped Skylar Thompson? 🙄

Which they didn’t,regardless of field placement. 
 

Well don’t worry about that clown this year.

 

Instead,you’re gonna get Herbert or Nix.

Then Lamar.

Then Mahomes.

Then either Goff, Hurts or Darnold.

 

How is that gonna work out? 

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8 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:

McDermott isn't getting fired even if we got blown out in the wild card round. So, I hope your fingers don't hurt from typing all that. Because it was a waste of time

 

 

8 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

I’m sorry but there is way more pressure on John Harbaugh than what were the low expectations of McD, this team, and its remade defense minus Milano coming in.

 

Agree, It would be interesting to go back and see, did Cowherd even predict the Bills to make the playoffs, believe he did?  I do recall many in the media did not have them making it.  This year the only problem McD has is the team has over achieved.  This was a retool year.  They were a bit lucky in that 3 teams they played this year who were supposed to be good were terrible, Jets, Dolphins, and 49r's so that gave them 5 pretty easy wins which helped.  But they really weren't expected to be this good so really doubtful he is even close to getting fired.

 

I do think the defense will get a pretty substantial makeover particularly on the line.  Groot will be back along with Oliver and probably AJ along with carter and Soliman.  But see them bringing in the best edge rusher available and maybe also a true 1 nose DT

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8 minutes ago, TH3 said:

Always so easy to be critical in the peanut gallery. Firing MCd would gut the morale and culture of the team and organization. What….Beane gonna team up with a new guy? Those two could go to a team as a pair and would be welcomed as heroes and would likely do great. 
 

All you hot seat guys please tell us who you are gonna hire and how it’s actually gonna work out 

I've said a million times. Don't fire McDermott until he loses the locker room. You don't want players playing for a new HC they don't like, don't respect and don't wanna play for. People can't grasp this

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28 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

A few main reasons. For one, it is widely believed that McD has a big say in personnel. Secondly, because those other things aren’t why we have lost in the most spectacular games.

 

- Mishandling of 13 seconds didn’t come down to schedule, injuries, weather or luck. It was just coaching.

 

- Passing three times at the 1 yard line at the end of the game didn’t come down to schedule, injuries, weather or luck. It was just coaching.

 

- Having 12 guys on the field for a missed Broncos field goal didn’t come down to schedule, injuries, weather or luck. It was just coaching.

 

- Attempting a fake punt with Damar Hamlin in the playoffs didn’t come down to personnel, schedule, injuries, weather or luck. It was just coaching.

 

I do agree that injuries were the reason we lost to the Chiefs in the playoffs last year. I think we win that game with our full defense.

 

And I also agree that we need ti keep McD.

 

 

You're absolutely picking and choosing your stats.  

 

ALL coaches make calls.  Some are great calls.  Some questionable in hindsight.  McD is a coach.  Therefore, McD will make calls.  Some are great calls.  Some are questionable in hindsight.  

 

What gets forgotten WAY too easily is his record while being here.  Argue all you want about having Allen, and sure, it's a HUGE reason.  But you will absolutely chop your nose off to spite your face getting rid of him and starting over.  Starting over isn't just plug and play.  A whole new coaching staff will be brought in.  New systems.  New players.  

 

A new coach would be a HUGE set back in my opinion.  (I do see you're not advocating for this however).

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