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2 hours ago, djp14150 said:

You aren’t going to get a pass rusher outside the top 15. Surr you might get decent players and may be get lucky.  OLB Thoe pass rushers are a

so usually talked in top 10-15

Beane needs to quit coveting potential draft picks and use them to trade for someone or move up high enough to get a stud

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11 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Beane needs to quit coveting potential draft picks and use them to trade for someone or move up high enough to get a stud


A team in position to take a stud draft pick that’s a pass rusher usually isn’t going to give that up. 
 

Everyone knows how valuable they are and why give that up for later round picks?  I think the success rate for pass stud rushers outside of the top 12 is very low.

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10 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:


A team in position to take a stud draft pick that’s a pass rusher usually isn’t going to give that up. 
 

Everyone knows how valuable they are and why give that up for later round picks?  I think the success rate for pass stud rushers outside of the top 12 is very low.

But we need to get up there and get one

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3 hours ago, djp14150 said:

You aren’t going to get a pass rusher outside the top 15. Surr you might get decent players and may be get lucky.  OLB Thoe pass rushers are a

so usually talked in top 10-15

TJ Watt was pick number 30

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56 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Beane needs to quit coveting potential draft picks and use them to trade for someone or move up high enough to get a stud


You mean like everybody wanting to give up the farm last time for Odunze ?

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Just now, Aussie Joe said:


You mean like everybody wanting to give up the farm last time for Odunze ?

Sometimes you gotta pull the trigger.  So far drafting lower, they can't find studs on the DL.  We need a feared pass rusher.

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Just now, SoonerBillsFan said:

Sometimes you gotta pull the trigger.  So far drafting lower, they can't find studs on the DL.  We need a feared pass rusher.


They need a Top DE..but moving up from the late 20s to the Top 5 or whatever seems unrealistic ….it gets said every year … but the cost is too prohibitive and the crap teams don’t want to move down that far …

 

 

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3 hours ago, djp14150 said:

You aren’t going to get a pass rusher outside the top 15. Surr you might get decent players and may be get lucky.  OLB Thoe pass rushers are a

so usually talked in top 10-15

 

Really?

 

Trey Hendrickson, who is leading the NFL in sacks was drafted 103rd overall in the 3rd round.

 

Danielle Hunter who is second in the NFL in sacks was the 88th pick in the 3rd round.

 

TJ Watt who is tied for 4th in sacks and has been defensive player of the year(multiple times?) was drafted 30th in the 1st round.

 

Nick Bonnito who is tied for 4th in the NFL in sacks was drafted 64th overall in the 2nd round.

 

So essentially out of the top 5 sack leaders this year, the only one who follows your script is Myles Garrett who is 3rd and was drafted 1st overall.

 

This is simply not true.

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54 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:


They need a Top DE..but moving up from the late 20s to the Top 5 or whatever seems unrealistic ….it gets said every year … but the cost is too prohibitive and the crap teams don’t want to move down that far …

 

 

Until we get that player, the D isn't going to improve. 

56 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Really?

 

Trey Hendrickson, who is leading the NFL in sacks was drafted 103rd overall in the 3rd round.

 

Danielle Hunter who is second in the NFL in sacks was the 88th pick in the 3rd round.

 

TJ Watt who is tied for 4th in sacks and has been defensive player of the year(multiple times?) was drafted 30th in the 1st round.

 

Nick Bonnito who is tied for 4th in the NFL in sacks was drafted 64th overall in the 2nd round.

 

So essentially out of the top 5 sack leaders this year, the only one who follows your script is Myles Garrett who is 3rd and was drafted 1st overall.

 

This is simply not true.

But in all the drafts, all the money on FA'S I feel I can say, beane and company can not scout DL.  The years of evidence is there.

 

So finding a Trey Hendrickson by this staff isn't happening

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11 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Until we get that player, the D isn't going to improve. 

But in all the drafts, all the money on FA'S I feel I can say, beane and company can not scout DL.  The years of evidence is there.

 

So finding a Trey Hendrickson by this staff isn't happening

 

Maybe...but I really like Rousseau. I think he has the potential to turn into that.

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Just now, Big Turk said:

 

Maybe...but I really like Rousseau. I think he has the potential to turn into that.

I don't.  Most of the great ones have shown they are that by now.  He is a perpetual 6 sack guy that doesn't strike fear in any OC

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