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2 hours ago, djp14150 said:

You aren’t going to get a pass rusher outside the top 15. Surr you might get decent players and may be get lucky.  OLB Thoe pass rushers are a

so usually talked in top 10-15

Beane needs to quit coveting potential draft picks and use them to trade for someone or move up high enough to get a stud

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11 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Beane needs to quit coveting potential draft picks and use them to trade for someone or move up high enough to get a stud


A team in position to take a stud draft pick that’s a pass rusher usually isn’t going to give that up. 
 

Everyone knows how valuable they are and why give that up for later round picks?  I think the success rate for pass stud rushers outside of the top 12 is very low.

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10 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:


A team in position to take a stud draft pick that’s a pass rusher usually isn’t going to give that up. 
 

Everyone knows how valuable they are and why give that up for later round picks?  I think the success rate for pass stud rushers outside of the top 12 is very low.

But we need to get up there and get one

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3 hours ago, djp14150 said:

You aren’t going to get a pass rusher outside the top 15. Surr you might get decent players and may be get lucky.  OLB Thoe pass rushers are a

so usually talked in top 10-15

TJ Watt was pick number 30

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56 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Beane needs to quit coveting potential draft picks and use them to trade for someone or move up high enough to get a stud


You mean like everybody wanting to give up the farm last time for Odunze ?

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Just now, Aussie Joe said:


You mean like everybody wanting to give up the farm last time for Odunze ?

Sometimes you gotta pull the trigger.  So far drafting lower, they can't find studs on the DL.  We need a feared pass rusher.

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Just now, SoonerBillsFan said:

Sometimes you gotta pull the trigger.  So far drafting lower, they can't find studs on the DL.  We need a feared pass rusher.


They need a Top DE..but moving up from the late 20s to the Top 5 or whatever seems unrealistic ….it gets said every year … but the cost is too prohibitive and the crap teams don’t want to move down that far …

 

 

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3 hours ago, djp14150 said:

You aren’t going to get a pass rusher outside the top 15. Surr you might get decent players and may be get lucky.  OLB Thoe pass rushers are a

so usually talked in top 10-15

 

Really?

 

Trey Hendrickson, who is leading the NFL in sacks was drafted 103rd overall in the 3rd round.

 

Danielle Hunter who is second in the NFL in sacks was the 88th pick in the 3rd round.

 

TJ Watt who is tied for 4th in sacks and has been defensive player of the year(multiple times?) was drafted 30th in the 1st round.

 

Nick Bonnito who is tied for 4th in the NFL in sacks was drafted 64th overall in the 2nd round.

 

So essentially out of the top 5 sack leaders this year, the only one who follows your script is Myles Garrett who is 3rd and was drafted 1st overall.

 

This is simply not true.

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54 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:


They need a Top DE..but moving up from the late 20s to the Top 5 or whatever seems unrealistic ….it gets said every year … but the cost is too prohibitive and the crap teams don’t want to move down that far …

 

 

Until we get that player, the D isn't going to improve. 

56 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Really?

 

Trey Hendrickson, who is leading the NFL in sacks was drafted 103rd overall in the 3rd round.

 

Danielle Hunter who is second in the NFL in sacks was the 88th pick in the 3rd round.

 

TJ Watt who is tied for 4th in sacks and has been defensive player of the year(multiple times?) was drafted 30th in the 1st round.

 

Nick Bonnito who is tied for 4th in the NFL in sacks was drafted 64th overall in the 2nd round.

 

So essentially out of the top 5 sack leaders this year, the only one who follows your script is Myles Garrett who is 3rd and was drafted 1st overall.

 

This is simply not true.

But in all the drafts, all the money on FA'S I feel I can say, beane and company can not scout DL.  The years of evidence is there.

 

So finding a Trey Hendrickson by this staff isn't happening

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11 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Until we get that player, the D isn't going to improve. 

But in all the drafts, all the money on FA'S I feel I can say, beane and company can not scout DL.  The years of evidence is there.

 

So finding a Trey Hendrickson by this staff isn't happening

 

Maybe...but I really like Rousseau. I think he has the potential to turn into that.

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Just now, Big Turk said:

 

Maybe...but I really like Rousseau. I think he has the potential to turn into that.

I don't.  Most of the great ones have shown they are that by now.  He is a perpetual 6 sack guy that doesn't strike fear in any OC

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So I was watching Colin's week 17 reaction video (Bills segment at 38:25) & he immediately goes into talking about McDermott.

 

"I think these are the Sean McDermott playoffs....

 

"If they get bounced early in the playoffs... if Cincinnati got in & played Buffalo in the 1st round, and Cincinnati won, I'm telling you, I think McDermott's in trouble."

 

"When I watch this team - I don't want to hear about Josh Allen. This is not a Josh Allen referendum. He lost a game cuz he scored a TD with 13 seconds left to Mahomes."

 

"This team, this coaching staff, has REAL pressure on them."

 

We were really down on McDermott last year, and there's been a decent amount of discussion about McDermott this year (especially after the Rams game), but I've heard many others throwing his name out for Coach of the Year. It sounds odd that someone who some consider COTY material would also be someone who could get fired after this postseason, regardless of outcome.

 

If the scenario that Colin suggested played out & we lost to the Bengals in the WC round, then yeah, I don't see how you can keep him. But what about the divisional round? Nobody would be happy with another 2nd round exit, but would this start to feel like a Marvin Lewis situation (only the 2nd round instead of the 1st)?

 

I'm not preemptively planning for defeat, but I also haven't really considered what this team would look like without McDermott. Him & Beane are so close, it's hard to imagine a true coaching staff reboot. What do you all think? Is this postseason a "Sean McDermott" playoffs?

 

 

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Not really hard to believe 

 

you have an all world talent in Josh Allen - it’s inevitable that if your team goes unprepared and doesn’t win when your qb - time and time again 

 

13 seconds, last year at home with 1 minute to go - not prepared against cinci at home 

 

doesn’t get it done - I think you get bounced like Colin suggests you may think “Sean can’t do it”

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If we lose first round, I think McD absolutely should be and will be in the hot seat.  That being said, I don't know if that would lead to him getting fired or not this year as being in the hotseat doesn't always equate to getting fired either.  

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The Bills should let him go if he doesn't make a conference title game.

 

I said this at the beginning of the year: McDermott isn't a regular season conversation. We know the culture is good. We know he can manage a locker room, but he doesn't get points for that anymore. Josh Allen is excellent now, and the goal is to win a trophy.

 

Frankly, I would rather see him win so he can just stay forever because he seems to have gotten his offensive coaching right again, but he's the longest tenured coach in the league without a super bowl and in the postseason, he's shown to be a defensive specialist that can't stop anybody.

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25 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

So I was watching Colin's week 17 reaction video (Bills segment at 38:25) & he immediately goes into talking about McDermott.

 

"I think these are the Sean McDermott playoffs....

 

"If they get bounced early in the playoffs... if Cincinnati got in & played Buffalo in the 1st round, and Cincinnati won, I'm telling you, I think McDermott's in trouble."

 

"When I watch this team - I don't want to hear about Josh Allen. This is not a Josh Allen referendum. He lost a game cuz he scored a TD with 13 seconds left to Mahomes."

 

"This team, this coaching staff, has REAL pressure on them."

 

We were really down on McDermott last year, and there's been a decent amount of discussion about McDermott this year (especially after the Rams game), but I've heard many others throwing his name out for Coach of the Year. It sounds odd that someone who some consider COTY material would also be someone who could get fired after this postseason, regardless of outcome.

 

If the scenario that Colin suggested played out & we lost to the Bengals in the WC round, then yeah, I don't see how you can keep him. But what about the divisional round? Nobody would be happy with another 2nd round exit, but would this start to feel like a Marvin Lewis situation (only the 2nd round instead of the 1st)?

 

I'm not preemptively planning for defeat, but I also haven't really considered what this team would look like without McDermott. Him & Beane are so close, it's hard to imagine a true coaching staff reboot. What do you all think? Is this postseason a "Sean McDermott" playoffs?

 

 

McDermott isn't getting fired even if we got blown out in the wild card round. So, I hope your fingers don't hurt from typing all that. Because it was a waste of time

 

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25 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

 

"this coaching staff, has REAL pressure on them."

 

 

 

He's got a terrible take on this. There's only one person on this staff that has pressure on him, and that's Matt Smiley.

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