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On 4/12/2025 at 4:22 PM, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

LAMP alert 🚨: Unlike most of you of a certain age, I did not attend the Oilers  Comeback game in person. However, I was immediately thrilled with our draft pick of JA over JR one fine April evening in 2018. 👍💪

Same... I told my son leading up to the draft, anyone but Rosen, and that other Bills fans were making fools of themselves gushing over Rosen. I wanted Darnold, Baker, Allen in that order. I liked Baker because he seemed the most accurate coming out of college. Josh was just a baller, and I could see him wheeling and dealing on even a bad Bills team. If anything, he was going to be exciting to watch... Rosen just seemed like snotty kid who would flake to me.

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On 4/13/2025 at 6:14 AM, eball said:

Dr. Phil — nobody makes a living off other people’s stories more than this guy.

 

I mean, I’m all for Josh getting all of the props he can get, but eff “Dr” Phil.

 

Oprah lol

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On 4/12/2025 at 7:26 PM, Simon said:

 

I've learned in the years since that attendance that day was approximately 4.6 million.

Sorry you were the only soul in WNY that wasn't there. :D

I confess to not being there. Living in Dansville, the local owner of the cable tv channel was a Bills fan and he would bootleg broadcasts of every home game that was blacked out in WNY. Yes, I still own the vhs tape of the full game with zero commercials. The feed just stayed at the stadium during commercial time outs. The feed would show announcers reviewing recent plays to show live when the true feed returned OR just stay focused on the cheerleaders!

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For the Comeback game, The old American Sports Bar and Grill on Transit, now a Cracker Barrell, had "Full NFL Coverage". Yes. They had the game on. It was packed to start the game. At halftime, more than half the people left. When the comeback started, they had to lock the doors as the managers estimated 2500 people were in the bar and seating area. When Christie made the field goal, waitresses started dancing on the tables. Good times. 

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On 4/12/2025 at 7:26 PM, Simon said:

 

I've learned in the years since that attendance that day was approximately 4.6 million.

Sorry you were the only soul in WNY that wasn't there. :D

I have to admit I listened to the game on the radio. My dad lived in Hamlin at the time and we were making the every other weekend shuffle back to my mom's in Elmira... A few of the players that were interviewed for "Four Falls of Buffalo" joked about the number of people they've talked to over the years that claimed to have been there. My grandparents' neighbor was there. He's the guy they always show in the highlights holding the sign that said "I don't hear any fat lady singing". One of my brother's friends was in that group too.

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On 4/12/2025 at 4:26 PM, Simon said:

 

I've learned in the years since that attendance that day was approximately 4.6 million.

Sorry you were the only soul in WNY that wasn't there. :D

was there and Woodstock as well. Oh and if you look really closely on Neil Armstrong's moon walk I am right to the right of the flag wearing zubaz and a Bruce Smith jersey.

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On 4/12/2025 at 7:34 PM, Simon said:

 

That's what happened to me at the Roland Hooks Hail Mary game vs New England in '81! 0:)

This was a game I attended !! Cold day but awesome finish.

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On 4/13/2025 at 6:14 AM, eball said:

Dr. Phil — nobody makes a living off other people’s stories more than this guy.

 

I mean, I’m all for Josh getting all of the props he can get, but eff “Dr” Phil.

 

Agreed.  Honestly I felt it was a garbage piece clearly using Josh's "story" for his own financial benefit.  F*** Dr. Phil. 

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On 4/14/2025 at 11:39 AM, Prospector said:

Same... I told my son leading up to the draft, anyone but Rosen, and that other Bills fans were making fools of themselves gushing over Rosen. I wanted Darnold, Baker, Allen in that order. I liked Baker because he seemed the most accurate coming out of college. Josh was just a baller, and I could see him wheeling and dealing on even a bad Bills team. If anything, he was going to be exciting to watch... Rosen just seemed like snotty kid who would flake to me.

 

Rosen was the only one of that bunch I strongly disliked. 

More than anything I felt he had limited athletic ability, including arm strength. I remember telling folks, "he's a statue, he's going to get killed." 

And I did not see any leadership qualities in him at all. He came across as spoiled and entitled (to me at least). I wanted nothing to do with him and literally prayed every night the Bills would not Draft him. 

I really liked Baker's fire... Liked him a lot. I liked Darnold, but all those fumbles scared me a bit... I thought Jackson was definitely a good prospect though I was not sure if he would be able to grow into a quality NFL passer. And I saw JA17 as by far the most upside, but also a lot of risk. I watched all the Wyoming games I could the previous 2 years, so I was very familiar with the roller coaster already...lol... I did however say that the QB Josh reminded me the most of was John Elway... B-)

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4 hours ago, Madbillsfan said:

***** Dr. Phil 

Why does everyone hate him? I'm not too familiar with him other than I know he exists.

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1 hour ago, MJS said:

Why does everyone hate him? I'm not too familiar with him other than I know he exists.

I've lived, and worked in the motion picture industry (set lighting) in Los Angeles for the last 34 years. Dr. Phil's show was shot at the Paramount lot. I know several people who worked on that show, and I can tell you that everyone who worked on that show-- and I mean everyone-- despised that man, and his son (whom Phil had installed as executive producer). He had a reputation for being mean, petty, entitled, and utterly conceited. There were stories of people getting fired for such infractions as talking nears his director's chair. Everyone who worked there was warned not to make eye contact with him. He had a camera installed outside the stage pointed at his parking space so that if someone parked in it-- whether he was on site, or not-- the car would be immediately towed. 

 

Several years before Dr. Phil went off the air, I was helping wrap out a sit-com that was on the stage next to Dr. Phil's stage. There was a door between the two stages up in the perms. The perms are the huge, wooden grids, with wooden catwalks above the stages that are uses for rigging over the sets. These things are decades old, and there's graffiti going back decades, as well. The sit-com I was helping to wrap had high-amperage cable going to some power boxes in the perms above Dr. Phils stage, and so I was working above Dr. Phil's set for several hours.

 

The graffiti was amazing. In my 34 years in the industry, I have never seen more graffiti devoted to one individual-- not even close. Multiple "artists." Some of it foul, and vulgar. Some of it hilarious. Some of it impressively drawn. Hundreds of tags, and ALL of it negative. 

 

I guess it takes a certain type of personality who can appear likable, and caring on camera, but still have a low enough character to profit off the defects, and misfortunes of others. The man is a sociopath, and a parasite.

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19 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

I've lived, and worked in the motion picture industry (set lighting) in Los Angeles for the last 34 years. Dr. Phil's show was shot at the Paramount lot. I know several people who worked on that show, and I can tell you that everyone who worked on that show-- and I mean everyone-- despised that man, and his son (whom Phil had installed as executive producer). He had a reputation for being mean, petty, entitled, and utterly conceited. There were stories of people getting fired for such infractions as talking nears his director's chair. Everyone who worked there was warned not to make eye contact with him. He had a camera installed outside the stage pointed at his parking space so that if someone parked in it-- whether he was on site, or not-- the car would be immediately towed. 

 

Several years before Dr. Phil went off the air, I was helping wrap out a sit-com that was on the stage next to Dr. Phil's stage. There was a door between the two stages up in the perms. The perms are the huge, wooden grids, with wooden catwalks above the stages that are uses for rigging over the sets. These things are decades old, and there's graffiti going back decades, as well. The sit-com I was helping to wrap had high-amperage cable going to some power boxes in the perms above Dr. Phils stage, and so I was working above Dr. Phil's set for several hours.

 

The graffiti was amazing. In my 34 years in the industry, I have never seen more graffiti devoted to one individual-- not even close. Multiple "artists." Some of it foul, and vulgar. Some of it hilarious. Some of it impressively drawn. Hundreds of tags, and ALL of it negative. 

 

I guess it takes a certain type of personality who can appear likable, and caring on camera, but still have a low enough character to profit off the defects, and misfortunes of others. The man is a sociopath, and a parasite.

None of that stuff is known to the public, though. Why do average people who don't know the behind the scenes things hate him?

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On 4/14/2025 at 10:11 AM, Chandler#81 said:

I confess to not being there. Living in Dansville, the local owner of the cable tv channel was a Bills fan and he would bootleg broadcasts of every home game that was blacked out in WNY. Yes, I still own the vhs tape of the full game with zero commercials. The feed just stayed at the stadium during commercial time outs. The feed would show announcers reviewing recent plays to show live when the true feed returned OR just stay focused on the cheerleaders!

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I had a big C band back in the day. It was...so cool to have no commercials and listening the banter in the booth with a live mike. 

Then the game came back on and it was their on camera persona. 

Good times! 

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8 minutes ago, MJS said:

None of that stuff is known to the public, though. Why do average people who don't know the behind the scenes things hate him?

Maybe I would have to watch his show to know that, which I have no intention of doing. But, if someone is like that behind the scenes, it follows that his reputation would bleed into his public perception. Out of curiosity, I googled "what is Dr. Phil like in real life?" and immediately found this Buzzfeed article: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/krystieyandoli/dr-phil-show-employees-allegations

 

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24 minutes ago, MJS said:

None of that stuff is known to the public, though. Why do average people who don't know the behind the scenes things hate him?

 

You can act however you want, but you can't hide your true character (or lack thereof) from people's instincts, imo.

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