Officials allowed the Chiefs to cheat the entire game

[Warriorspikes51]

4 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

The worst thing is, if the Bills try this on Monday night, then we can be pretty sure the flags will be flying.

If Spencer Brown breathes before the snap....FLAG!!! 

If Sauce Gardner pulls Diggs jersey for 10 yards..... _________________________ 

[Warcodered]

2 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Too bad Spencer Brown is a nice Iowa boy who would never dream of cheating like that.

He'd never get away with it.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

3 hours ago, maddenboy said:

On one play, Collinsworth, looking at the replay, said the Right tackle was lined up like a Slot Receiver.

Can’t stand Collinsworth, but sometimes he produces a gem like this. 

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

If Spencer Brown breathes before the snap....FLAG!!! 

If Sauce Ahmad Gardner pulls Diggs jersey for 10 yards..... _________________________ 

FTFY. This guy gets veteran treatment from the league because he became famous before playing a single NFL down because he has a cool nickname. Remember Snacks Harrison? And you think this is bad? Next year we're getting Kool-Aid Mckinstry. They're just gonna let him straight tackle receivers. 

[34-78-83]

1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

 

Well, he observed one thing negative.

 

Can you imagine Collinsworth TBD if McDermott made some of the choices and Josh made some of the throws Mahomes made last night?  Going for it on 4th and 20, 4th and 25?  Some of the throws that were missed?

 

 

 

Fixed

[Beck Water]

3 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said:

Fixed

 

Fair, but It's not "either or" it's "both"

 

18 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

He'd never get away with it.

 

Facts

Edited September 8, 2023 by Beck Water

[The Firebaugh Kid]

Mahomes dirted one in the 2nd or 3rd qtr as well, and it appeared like nobody was nearby. 

[dave mcbride]

1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

That's fine, but the problem is that it's not being called (or no-called) consistently.

 

Even in that game, the refs finally called it - right at a critical moment, after not calling it all game.

 

In one game, they'll call it multiple times, in another they'll let it slide.

 

Because of the inconsistancy, I don't buy Simms and your explanation about "changing the rules without changing them".

Nothing is ever called consistently. I am just saying that linemen are given more leeway than in the past because they're facing far better athletes than their predecessors were 25-30 years ago or so, especially since the league decided it wanted to be a passing league with fewer injured QBs. Good big-men athletes get fed into the d-line from early on; the lesser specimens become o-linemen. There are of course some good o-line athletes, but on average they're measurably inferior.  

[LabattBlue]

58 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Can’t stand Collinsworth, but sometimes he produces a gem like this. 

When they wanted to in the past, Al & Chris(when they were a team) could be very snarky about the officiating, which I found very enjoyable.  

[Jauronimo]

9 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

Mahomes dirted one in the 2nd or 3rd qtr as well, and it appeared like nobody was nearby. 

He was moving left and may have been outside the tackle box.  But it looked to me like he was still in the pocket.

[syhuang]

 

[Low Positive]

You know, scrubbing that video above kind of changes my mind on this. Pause it at 4 seconds and then scrub watching the RT and the ball. He moves as soon as the center moves the ball, but the rest of the line doesn't move until the ball is halfway to Mahomes. The top of his helmet is also right at the waistline of the center. If you look at the OL, Taylor is the only one who's looking at the ball in the center's hand. He can do that because he's lined up so far back. The rest of them are going by sound. Light travels much faster than sound. I've been screaming about this all day, but Taylor may actually be in the right here. 

[Jauronimo]

11 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

You know, scrubbing that video above kind of changes my mind on this. Pause it at 4 seconds and then scrub watching the RT and the ball. He moves as soon as the center moves the ball, but the rest of the line doesn't move until the ball is halfway to Mahomes. The top of his helmet is also right at the waistline of the center. If you look at the OL, Taylor is the only one who's looking at the ball in the center's hand. He can do that because he's lined up so far back. The rest of them are going by sound. Light travels much faster than sound. I've been screaming about this all day, but Taylor may actually be in the right here. 

Start it at the 2 second mark and watch in slow motion.  Taylor is already jumping out of his stance and moving his upper body backward a full second before the snap.  Thats a false start on top of illegal formation.  By the time the ball is snapped hes just continuing the motion.  Why the refs let him rock back and forth and twitch his feet all night is a mystery to me.

[Low Positive]

4 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Start it at the 2 second mark and watch in slow motion.  Taylor is already jumping out of his stance and moving his upper body backward a full second before the snap.  Thats a false start on top of illegal formation.  By the time the ball is snapped hes just continuing the motion.  Why the refs let him rock back and forth and twitch his feet all night is a mystery to me.

You're right. He spends an entire 2 seconds rocking and forth. He never really sets.

[DrDawkinstein]

4 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Why the refs let him rock back and forth and twitch his feet all night is a mystery to me.

 

This is the most maddening part. Dude never gets set, that should be a penalty right there. All that twitching and rocking... such complete bull####.

[Dan Darragh]

3 hours ago, Simon said:

 

He also declined a defensive holding call that would have given the Lions an automatic first down and instead opted for an extra 2 yrds of field position. 

That was also a mistake but at least I could understand the (flawed) logic

[LABILLBACKER]

From the 1st quarter on I couldn't believe my eyes. Taylor was rising early on every single snap. Their LT wasn't.  Did this guy get a "all-game coupon" for false starts from Steve Carell?  And on top of that he was nearly 2 yards off the line. We know that Mahomes is the new Brady Golden boy but good Lord NFL, enforce your own rules.

[AuntieEm]

3 hours ago, K-9 said:

I agree with all of this. If the penalty is not going to be called, then the league should remove any pretext and just amend the rule and allow OTs to line up behind the center’s ass when they want to. It makes no sense to have rules if there is no intention of enforcing them. 

 

  Think they rather leave them as is and just call penalties when it suits their objectives and yes the league does seem to have some objectives at times over which team wins any particular game.  It's not so much the league is scripted as it just makes it easier for to get outcomes it seems to prefer.  

[K-9]

36 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

You know, scrubbing that video above kind of changes my mind on this. Pause it at 4 seconds and then scrub watching the RT and the ball. He moves as soon as the center moves the ball, but the rest of the line doesn't move until the ball is halfway to Mahomes. The top of his helmet is also right at the waistline of the center. If you look at the OL, Taylor is the only one who's looking at the ball in the center's hand. He can do that because he's lined up so far back. The rest of them are going by sound. Light travels much faster than sound. I've been screaming about this all day, but Taylor may actually be in the right here. 

The guard  is lined up with his helmet breaking the center’s hip like he should be. Taylor is lined up with his helmet breaking the guard’s hip, which puts his helmet behind the center’s ass, which is illegal according to the rules. The OT must also line up with his helmet in line with the center’s hip. That is clear as day in the clip above.

Edited September 8, 2023 by K-9

[Low Positive]

He did the same thing in Jacksonville last year in the playoffs

 

4 minutes ago, K-9 said:

The guard  is lined up with his helmet breaking the center’s hip like he should be. Taylor is lined up with his helmet breaking the guard’s hip, which puts his helmet behind the center’s ass, which is illegal according to the rules. The OT must also line up with his helmet in line with the center’s hip. That is clear as day in the clip above.

I see that now.