Gisele Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 Was talked about a lot during the game but haven't seen it here. The league better let it go this weekend but starting next Tuesday, they'd better address this with all officiating crews. Allowing the tackles to line up in the backfield AND ignoring the false starts is totally unacceptable. 20 1 32 3 5 Quote
1ManRaid Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) It's literally a carbon copy of what happened to us against the Jags a couple years ago, and cost us the game. Sure we played like crap, but it was a close game and all the non calls for their RT being a full 2 yards off the ball when snapped on every play helped the Jags. *edit* Tackles lining up so far back and never being called for it is one of my biggest pet peeves about officiating. Edited September 8, 2023 by 1ManRaid 8 3 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 Chiefs need to fix it. Here's why. If you paid attention to Taylor on almost every play, he way tipping run/pass. When he would line up further back and rock before the snap- pass. Almost every time. However on run plays he was up more in line with the OG and didn't flinch. Hutch is a really good player, but this was one reason why on pass plays he came like he was shot out of a cannon. 21 2 Quote
YodaMan79 Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) It's crazy what the officials allowed on the OL. During his last years with the Eagles, Jason Peters seemed to perfect the technique of being constantly Offside. It appears his peers have picked up on what officials let him get away with in the twilight of his career and have exploited it. You can see this in almost every game now. It's a copy cat league, and everyone is picking up on what the Eagles do. It's not a fast start, they're Offside a lot, no matter what SI says: https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/02/07/the-lane-johnson-controversy Edited September 8, 2023 by YodaMan79 2 Quote
1ManRaid Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Chiefs need to fix it. Here's why. If you paid attention to Taylor on almost every play, he way tipping run/pass. When he would line up further back and rock before the snap- pass. Almost every time. However on run plays he was up more in line with the OG and didn't flinch. Hutch is a really good player, but this was one reason why on pass plays he came like he was shot out of a cannon. That rocking back and forth like a drug addict was a bigger tell than Lamar's habit of tucking his chin on handoffs and keeping his head up if he was going to keep it and run. 4 3 Quote
SectionC3 Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Chiefs need to fix it. Here's why. If you paid attention to Taylor on almost every play, he way tipping run/pass. When he would line up further back and rock before the snap- pass. Almost every time. However on run plays he was up more in line with the OG and didn't flinch. Hutch is a really good player, but this was one reason why on pass plays he came like he was shot out of a cannon. I was sort of half paying attention last night and I caught it, too. Totally right. Taylor was fidgeting with his feet a lot on pass plays, too. 1 Quote
Your Brown Eye Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 Some of the onus lies of the Lions staff and players for not bringing it to the officials attention (if they did not do so). If they did and it was still allowed then that is not a good look at all, on national TV with even the announcers cracking jokes about it almost every play. It was baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad 3 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Your Brown Eye said: Some of the onus lies of the Lions staff and players for not bringing it to the officials attention (if they did not do so). If they did and it was still allowed then that is not a good look at all, on national TV with even the announcers cracking jokes about it almost every play. It was baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad why would they want the Chiefs to stop tipping their plays? 6 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: why would they want the Chiefs to stop tipping their plays? The best part of it all....when the refs FINALLY called him for it on 4th and 20 to make it 4th and 25. I was cackle laughing. 11 5 6 Quote
Shortchaz Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, YodaMan79 said: It's crazy what the officials allowed on the OL. During his last years with the Eagles, Jason Peters seemed to perfect the technique of being constantly Offside. It appears his peers have picked up on what officials let him get away with in the twilight of his career and have exploited it. You can see this in almost every game now. It's a copy cat league, and everyone is picking up on what the Eagles do. It's not a fast start, they're Offside a lot, no matter what SI says: https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/02/07/the-lane-johnson-controversy I think you are misusing the term “offside”. Illegal formation, on the line/off the line are the terms for what you’re referring to. 4 1 Quote
YodaMan79 Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Shortchaz said: I think you are misusing the term “offside”. Illegal formation, on the line/off the line are the terms for what you’re referring to. That too. Lane Johnson and Peters seemed like they were getting head start on passing plays a majority of the time. Quote
Shortchaz Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, YodaMan79 said: That too. Lane Johnson and Peters seemed like they were getting head start on passing plays a majority of the time. That’s a false start 1 Quote
SCBills Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 People losing their minds over the Chiefs OL being allowed to cheat all game is the most unified I’ve ever seen Twitter. 6 3 9 Quote
Nuncha Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 28 minutes ago, Your Brown Eye said: Some of the onus lies of the Lions staff and players for not bringing it to the officials attention (if they did not do so). If they did and it was still allowed then that is not a good look at all, on national TV with even the announcers cracking jokes about it almost every play. It was baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad Exactly - the Lion's staff shouldn't have to tell the ref's that a O lineman lining up in the backfield is a penalty. 4 Quote
Dibs Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 35 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: .... When he would line up further back and rock before the snap- .... That rocking should have been a penalty unto itself, shouldn't it? Some plays he rocked multiple times before the(his) snap. Any movement once set is supposed to be a penalty, surely? 8 Quote
BBFL Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dibs said: That rocking should have been a penalty unto itself, shouldn't it? Some plays he rocked multiple times before the(his) snap. Any movement once set is supposed to be a penalty, surely? I would think so. Don’t know if there’s a line of discretion for an official… Maybe he’s still in shock and can’t contain himself that KC are paying him $20m p/y. 1 1 Quote
aristocrat Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 41 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: why would they want the Chiefs to stop tipping their plays? he would tip it either way. Better advantage if he’s further forward. Quote
maddenboy Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 On one play, Collinsworth, looking at the replay, said the Right tackle was lined up like a Slot Receiver. 10 Quote
dorquemada Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, maddenboy said: On one play, Collinsworth, looking at the replay, said the Right tackle was lined up like a Slot Receiver. Nails on a chalkboard everytime that guy opens his mouth but I never thought i'd live to see the day that he said/observed anything negative about the chiefs 1 1 1 1 Quote
dave mcbride Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 As Chris Simms has repeatedly said (and I agree with him), o-line players across the board are getting more non-calls going their way these days because today’s defensive linemen are SUCH better athletes than before — and better athletes by a good ways than offensive linemen on average. They’re basically changing the rules to account for this disparity without actually officially changing them. I have come to accept it because at least I know the unwritten rules now. I suggest just accepting it. The league wants to protect QBs, and this is how they do it in a context of physically overmatched offensive linemen. 1 Quote
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