bostonadguy Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 On 9/7/2023 at 7:49 PM, Mr. WEO said: The other guy probably doesn't have 4.5 million dollars.... Hopefully the other guy has insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 21 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Well, no one has been sued yet. Also, you missed this, from the report earlier this week: “Nyheim, who has his boating license and was likely traveling at about 10 miles per hour was not cited and has engaged my office to hold the necessary parties accountable for ending his season and costing him potentially many millions of dollars. Why someone elected to rent a jet-ski to such a person and why this person chose to do so are questions my office will be looking into very closely in the coming weeks. I look forward to doing everything I can to put the pieces back together for Nyheim, who is a terrific person and client.”..... Doesn’t that let Bills off the hook since I believe jet skiing even a 10 mph is t one of those things allowed under contract or NFL player agreements? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Just now, Xwnyer said: Doesn’t that let Bills off the hook since I believe jet skiing even a 10 mph is t one of those things allowed under contract or NFL player agreements? moving or standing still, they don’t have to honor his contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: moving or standing still, they don’t have to honor his contract Not sure if rules say can’t sit on one . I am just pod we lost him for year dynamic returner and he had hoped to be more involved in offense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Xwnyer said: Not sure if rules say can’t sit on one . I am just pod we lost him for year dynamic returner and he had hoped to be more involved in offense he was the operator of the jet ski. he will be easily replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Just now, Mr. WEO said: he was the operator of the jet ski. he will be easily replaced. Hope so. He is a good kid, I know an uncle of his but haven’t talked to him about any of this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, Doc said: I'm not going to get into it all over again but suffice it to say that there was a lot more than just that. So with the wide usage of dating apps you never worried about either of your sons hooking up with a girl and then being accused of rape? Hey, more power to you. And obviously there was more interest because he was a Bills draftee. It still would have been an interesting case had it happened to another team and I'd still be defending him. I think you do want to get into it all over again or you wouldnt have brought it up. They lacked physical evidence of him raping her but they had plenty of evidence of his teammates doing it. Also the prosecutor relied on a single eye witness testimony from Araizas teammate that he was not at the party at the time she was being gang raped. The facts are that almost every single thing the underaged 17 year old girl said the morning after the party when she reported it to the police did happen. There was a party. She was at it. Multiple adult males did have sex with her and record it. They had literal video of matts teammates doing it. Matt was at the party. The prosecutors relied on a single eye witness testimony (matts friend) to suggest he couldnt have done anything to her that night because he left the party 60 minutes before the video recorded incidents. Okay? How does that prove anything? It doesnt. Also, prosecutors said they lacked physical evidence that she was "raped" because on the video she isnt saying the word stop or no. The justice system is very tough on young women I worry for my daughter every day. She might get drunk having fun at a party and she has to worry about a bunch of meat jockeys raping her and getting away with it. Just because you arent found "guilty" by law doesnt mean you are innocent. You and I can only speculate but when it comes to this sort of issue i prefer to err on the side of not supporting rapists. But hey man, defend that $#!+ if you want. If the league felt the way you do some team would have hired him this year Edited September 11, 2023 by BillsFan692 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 9 hours ago, BillsFan692 said: I think you do want to get into it all over again or you wouldnt have brought it up. They lacked physical evidence of him raping her but they had plenty of evidence of his teammates doing it. Also the prosecutor relied on a single eye witness testimony from Araizas teammate that he was not at the party at the time she was being gang raped. The facts are that almost every single thing the underaged 17 year old girl said the morning after the party when she reported it to the police did happen. There was a party. She was at it. Multiple adult males did have sex with her and record it. They had literal video of matts teammates doing it. Matt was at the party. The prosecutors relied on a single eye witness testimony (matts friend) to suggest he couldnt have done anything to her that night because he left the party 60 minutes before the video recorded incidents. Okay? How does that prove anything? It doesnt. Also, prosecutors said they lacked physical evidence that she was "raped" because on the video she isnt saying the word stop or no. The justice system is very tough on young women I worry for my daughter every day. She might get drunk having fun at a party and she has to worry about a bunch of meat jockeys raping her and getting away with it. Just because you arent found "guilty" by law doesnt mean you are innocent. You and I can only speculate but when it comes to this sort of issue i prefer to err on the side of not supporting rapists. But hey man, defend that $#!+ if you want. If the league felt the way you do some team would have hired him this year The girl never accused Araiza of rape (meaning forced sex) either outside or inside the house. They both admitted the incident outside the house was consensual and her friends said she was boasting about it when she joined them afterwards. True she was 17, but she was portraying herself as legal/in college and in California that's a valid defense, and if you saw and heard her in that video from the night before, you wouldn't be able to tell that she was 17 and not 18. As for his involvement with what happened inside the house, she claimed he led her inside to his teammates but never said he participated. But there's no evidence even of that and evidence otherwise, even if it is from a friend, while she has no one to corroborate her claims. I'm sure they have his cell phone data to show he wasn't there and I'd like to see that but it won't change much because beyond the lack of evidence it sounds unbelievable on the face of it. I won't defend what happened inside the house/his teammates and I have no idea if at some point a rape occurred. About the best defense I can give her is that she took or was unknowingly given a roofie. It would explain a lot. But the videos are damaging to her case. And the civil trial is still pending. No team will sign him until it's over because it's a distraction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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