Chiefs vs Lions NFL Opener

[Doc Brown]

4 minutes ago, Araiza Curse said:

No, not including Kelce. Outside of Kelce, Toney for all WRs will lead that team in yards if he stays healthy. 

After tonight I'm going with Mike Evans.

[Milanos Milano]

Just now, Doc Brown said:

After tonight I'm going with Mike Evans.

They could make a trade. I will be the 1st one to say that Toney had one of the worst games I’ve seen in a while. But the dude pops off the screen. He has talent, and once he figures it out, he will put up yards there. I’m pretty sure of it. 

Totally reminds me of Shakir. I still have faith in Shakir, I think he will figure it out at some point, and when he does, he will be more reliable than Davis. 

[SoTier]

20 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Kelce makes everything else work.  
 

None of their WR’s are focal points, but they don’t have to be … just need to be planets that orbit around Kelce and it should be fine. 

 

This is exactly why I'm reserving judgement on the Chiefs' offense until Kelce's back on the field.  His presence changes everything ... including how much teams are willing to commit to playing tight coverage on mediocre WRs.  Also, Hutchison is a beast who really abused Taylor at RT.  Other teams may not have an edge rusher capable of doing that.  Finally, Week 1 games are notorious for being false indicators of how good or bad a team will be for the season.   There are examples every opening weekend of unexpected winners that never seem to play as well again the rest of the season and supposed playoff teams that get tripped up Game 1 but then return to form. 

 

14 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Patrick Mahomes has never won a game without Eric Bienemy.  

 

And Jared Goff is undefeated against Patrick Mahomes.

[Nelius]

Kadarius Toney aspires to be Robert Foster, Harry Douglas, Tim Patrick at best. He has done absolutely nothing and will likely end up having a fraction of the career of Marquise Goodwin. If that's your #1 then a fringe journeyman is your #1.

Edited September 8, 2023 by Nelius

[Dr.Sack]

19 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I was just thinking how Toney's performance tonight was about equal to McKenzie's performance against the Chiefs last year, the only difference is one of Toney's drops happened to pop into the hands of a DB and become a defensive TD.

Didn’t Beasley have a similar play in 2019 / 2020? 

[BillsfaninSB]

Chiefs go to Jax next week.  Could be 0 - 2. 

[Milanos Milano]

4 minutes ago, Nelius said:

Kadarius Toney aspires to be Robert Foster, Harry Douglas, Tim Patrick at best. He has done absolutely nothing and will likely end up having a fraction of the career of Marquise Goodwin. If that's your #1 then a fringe journeyman is your #1.

He helped win a Super Bowl, more than anything Davis can say. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

8 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

This is exactly why I'm reserving judgement on the Chiefs' offense until Kelce's back on the field.  His presence changes everything ... including how much teams are willing to commit to playing tight coverage on mediocre WRs.  Also, Hutchison is a beast who really abused Taylor at RT.  Other teams may not have an edge rusher capable of doing that.  Finally, Week 1 games are notorious for being false indicators of how good or bad a team will be for the season.   There are examples every opening weekend of unexpected winners that never seem to play as well again the rest of the season and supposed playoff teams that get tripped up Game 1 but then return to form. 

 

 

And Jared Goff is undefeated against Patrick Mahomes.

This didn’t really strike me as unexpected…if anything the lions should have won by more.  The chiefs oline was holding on for dear life pun definitely intended.

 

a lot of teams have defensive lines that will pretty easily exploit the chiefs offensive tackles.  jets,dolphins,eagles,pats, bills with von back, bengals, broncos will all give them problems 
 

It’s still very early but letting Orlando brown walk is looking like a rare misstep from their front office.  The big eye opener for me was I don’t even think the lions played well 

Edited September 8, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[SoTier]

13 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

They were technically the 2 seed one year but the titans lost their first game after the bye so kc grabbed the home field advantage back… I don’t think they’ve had a single road playoff game in mahomes’ career 

 

That's correct.  Mahomes has never played a playoff game outside of Arrowhead except for Super Bowls.

[Virgil]

1 minute ago, BillsfaninSB said:

Chiefs go to Jax next week.  Could be 0 - 2. 

They could start 2-4 and still get the one seed.  

[MiltonWaddams]

1 minute ago, Araiza Curse said:

He helped win a Super Bowl, more than anything Davis can say. 

I would love to know why you like this guy so much. It’s beyond reasonable.

[Milanos Milano]

1 minute ago, MiltonWaddams said:

I would love to know why you like this guy so much. It’s beyond reasonable.

He gets open. It sucks that he has hands problems. I like WRs that get open. Something Davis cannot do on a regular basis. 

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, 90sBills said:

They’re not sniffing the #1 seed with this group of receivers. Might not even make the playoffs. 😁

I disagree here. They started out slowly before and figured it out. They won a SB last year with mediocre receivers. 

 

I have little doubts the Chiefs won't be the team to beat come season's end. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 minutes ago, Araiza Curse said:

He helped win a Super Bowl, more than anything Davis can say. 

Did he really help win the Super Bowl? He had one catch in that game  where he was absolutely comically wide open that anybody would’ve caught, he had one catch vs the bengals the week prior, and one catch against the jags.

 

three total catches all playoffs for 28 yards and a completely wide open pitch and catch td 

 

 

[Albany,n.y.]

25 minutes ago, Araiza Curse said:

No, not including Kelce. Outside of Kelce, Toney for all WRs will lead that team in yards if he stays healthy. 

That's like saying the guy with the 25 IQ is the smartest one in the room full of people with IQs in the teens.  

[Milanos Milano]

Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Did he really help win the Super Bowl? He had one catch in that game  where he was absolutely comically wide open that anybody would’ve caught, he had one catch vs the bengals the week prior, and one catch against the jags.

 

three total catches all playoffs for 28 yards and a completely wide open pitch and catch td 

 

 

You know what is being worse than completely wide open in the end zone?  Having 0 catches on 0 targets with 0 TDs like Davis. If Davis wants to earn a name for himself, he will help get us to where we want to be. 

[SoTier]

1 minute ago, Virgil said:

They could start 2-4 and still get the one seed.  

 

I agree.  The AFCE and AFCN are likely to be dog fights with the teams in those divisions taking turns beating each other up.  The Jags might have the easiest route to division champion but it might struggle with non-divisional opponents.  I think they play both the Bills and the Bengals.   KC doesn't have that much competition in the AFCW except for the Chargers (who always seem to find ways to Charger) unless Payton can resurrect the Broncos. 

[WMDman]

3 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Did he really help win the Super Bowl? He had one catch in that game  where he was absolutely comically wide open that anybody would’ve caught, he had one catch vs the bengals the week prior, and one catch against the jags.

 

three total catches all playoffs for 28 yards and a completely wide open pitch and catch td 

 

 

Toney has the record for longest punt return in SB history 🤷🏼‍♂️

[Albany,n.y.]

6 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I disagree here. They started out slowly before and figured it out. They won a SB last year with mediocre receivers. 

 

I have little doubts the Chiefs won't be the team to beat come season's end. 

The team to beat is Arizona, and teams will beat them just about every week. 😉

[Milanos Milano]

Just now, WMDman said:

Toney has the record for longest punt return in SB history 🤷🏼‍♂️

Much better than watching it from home like Davis.