Low Positive Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: don’t forget Andy Reid. Mahomes is the best but he certainly is set up for success like not many others. Chiefs went 12-4 the year they drafted Mahomes and 10-7 the year that he sat. Mahomes is great, but he took over an already good team, a luxury that not many rookie QBs have. 1 Quote
eball Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 Hate to say it but I think the Chiefs win (and cover). The Lions were a nice story last year and do appear to be a legitimate playoff contender going into this season, but they haven’t been in this situation before. Going to KC for the NFL opener against the defending SB champs is a huge step up, and rarely do teams meet that challenge the first time they experience it. I don’t care that Kelce may not play and they don’t have Jones. Mahomes is still Mahomes and I don’t see a Detroit defense that will shut him down. I really, really hope I’m wrong. Would love to see KC saddled with an L this early. 1 Quote
mannc Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Gregg said: The one bad thing about tonight is we are going to have to listen to Collingsworth drool over Mahomes doing this and Mahomes doing that for 3 hours. That’s not going to be easy. 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 With Jones and Kelce out, the Lions have a real chance to steal a win. But in critical moments in a close game I'm going to bet on the team that has experience in those moments versus the young team still finding its way. Chiefs 30 Lions 25 Quote
DapperCam Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 I think the Lions could win. They played really well last year. If Kelce misses significant time, I think the KC offense regresses quite a bit. But he isn’t supposed to be out for long. Quote
Franco_92 Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 I'm in a 12 team league where the depth gets weak enough that I am considering putting MVS into my second flex spot if Kelce is out Quote
The Firebaugh Kid Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 I hate Patrick Mahomes face, voice, and walk. Go Lions. 2 Quote
Franco_92 Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 I cannot bring myself to hate Mahomes, it's easier to hate Burrow, though I don't even really hate Burrow. Mahomes seems like a cool guy and is fun to watch. Still want both to lose for seeding purposes obviously 1 1 Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, arcane said: I'm in a 12 team league where the depth gets weak enough that I am considering putting MVS into my second flex spot if Kelce is out Could be a game where they take some shots. I have Olave and Waddle ahead of him - the real question is him or Aaron Jones in PPR and I'm probably going to go high floor with Jones. 1 minute ago, arcane said: I cannot bring myself to hate Mahomes, it's easier to hate Burrow, though I don't even really hate Burrow. Mahomes seems like a cool guy and is fun to watch. Still want both to lose for seeding purposes obviously Mahomes is basically Steve Young, and Allen is more Favre. I'd say Burrow is probably Aikman in this analogy. Obviously different leagues, play styles, etc. 1 Quote
Gregg Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, DapperCam said: I think the Lions could win. They played really well last year. If Kelce misses significant time, I think the KC offense regresses quite a bit. But he isn’t supposed to be out for long. Probably not but he is 34. He has played a lot of football so he is getting to that age where he might start slowing down. Quote
RobbRiddick Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 I marked this down as a win for Detroit last week and I'm going for that now. Come on LIONS! 1 Quote
TheBrownBear Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 I don't see it. I don't trust Goff to string together back-to-back pro bowl type seasons. I hope I'm wrong, but I expect KC to win this one rather comfortably 1 Quote
SirAndrew Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: I don't see it. I don't trust Goff to string together back-to-back pro bowl type seasons. I hope I'm wrong, but I expect KC to win this one rather comfortably That’s my issue with the Lions. I actually don’t trust Goff or Campbell. They deserve credit for last year, and it seems they’ve turned things around, but QB/Coach combos mean everything. Goff has been an up and down player his entire career, and Campbell coaches with an emotional, high energy style. It seems those type of leaders find it difficult to sustain success. 1 Quote
90sBills Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 50 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: Chiefs went 12-4 the year they drafted Mahomes and 10-7 the year that he sat. Mahomes is great, but he took over an already good team, a luxury that not many rookie QBs have. He definitely ended up in the best spot possible. With a coach that enhanced his natural abilities to maximize potential. Remember, though, the Chiefs were great in the regular season but always flamed out in the playoffs. They blew multiple #1 and #2 seeds opportunities, including one with Reid. They won 1 playoff game in 30yrs and that was with Reid/Alex Smith. Mahomes was the missing piece that took them over the top. Elite qbs and coaches are judged by playoffs success. They have the perfect combination right now. Quote
mannc Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 49 minutes ago, arcane said: I'm in a 12 team league where the depth gets weak enough that I am considering putting MVS into my second flex spot if Kelce is out Please let us know how that works out. 1 Quote
Franco_92 Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 1 minute ago, mannc said: Please let us know how that works out. I'll try to post about my teams a few times per page just for you 1 Quote
FLFan Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 The Lions won 8 of their last 10 in 2022 and got better in the off season. The Chiefs are without their best defensive player without whom their pass rush has been anemic at best. They are also very likely missing their best offensive weapon. KC is ripe for an upset here. The Lions will score and I think their D can make enough plays to squeak this one out. 1 Quote
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 No Kelsey and Lions at home. This is a winnable game for the Lions. Their offense has been very good the last few games. Quote
GoBills808 Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 1 minute ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: No Kelsey and Lions at home. This is a winnable game for the Lions. Their offense has been very good the last few games. its in KC they're the SB champs 1 Quote
Dillenger4 Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 GO Lions! This will be a good game. The Lions are a tough team. They are tough in the trenches and play hard! Chiefs have a tough one tonight just as much as we have a tough one Monday night. Quote
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