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Ugghhhhh who didn't see this coming?

 

The truly great NFL GM's in this league know when to move on from aging veterans and it was a massive mistake bringing back all these guys, especially at their current contracts.

 

This is why I predict that Rapp will supplant Hyde or Poyer as starter sooner than later so I guess give Beane credit for that contingency plan.

 

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Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said:

He’s old.

 

No hes not.  Does he have 5 years left at a high level...no.  But doesn't mean he will for sure break down this year.  I mean he could, every player is different, and some break down even younger.  But this notion that because a player is 31 or 32 around here that they automatically can't stay healthy, play well, etc is so outdated.  Its just not true anymore in the modern game.  Lots of players are still playing at a high level at this age, its not some guaranteed automatic cliff it was 30 years ago. 

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Just now, Alphadawg7 said:

 

No hes not.  Does he have 5 years left at a high level...no.  But doesn't mean he will for sure break down this year.  I mean he could, every player is different, and some break down even younger.  But this notion that because a player is 31 or 32 around here that they automatically can't stay healthy, play well, etc is so outdated.  Its just not true anymore in the modern game.  Lots of players are still playing at a high level at this age, its not some guaranteed automatic cliff it was 30 years ago. 

He’ll be 33 in season. Yes that’s old for a starting player.

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Gotta agree with some here on the age thing. 

 

I understand the temptation of wanting to run it back with Hyde & Poyer this year given the Edmunds departure, and hopefully they have one more top tier year left in them, but we can't be shocked if injuries are a thing again this year when we're so dependent on defense upon aging players/players coming back off injury.

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3 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

The truly great NFL GM's in this league know when to move on from aging veterans and it was a massive mistake bringing back all these guys, especially at their current contracts.

 

 

Please provide some examples of your nonsense - are you referring to Howie Roseman who has multiple 30+ year olds on his team including 35 year old Brandon Graham that just resigned? Or perhaps Brett Veach whose top offensive skill player is a 33 year old veteran that just got hurt again? Every single team has old vets.

 

You're clearly getting cocky but I think you should employ a less is more approach. Your desire to jump into every thread is greatly watering down your trolling.

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Just now, Nelius said:

 

Please provide some examples of your nonsense - are you referring to Howie Roseman who has multiple 30+ year olds on his team including 35 year old Brandon Graham that just resigned? Or perhaps Brett Veach whose top offensive skill player is a 33 year old veteran that just got hurt again? Every single team has old vets.

 

You're clearly getting cocky but I think you should employ a less is more approach. Your desire to jump into every thread is greatly watering down your trolling.

 

Hyde essentially missed all of last season and is on the wrong side of 30. And now alas we are hearing about a back injury (which is obviously not a minor problem for anyone that has had back issues)

 

If it was up to me I would have moved on. Also there's a reason his running mate didn't get much interest on the FA market either.

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10 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

Ugghhhhh who didn't see this coming?

 

The truly great NFL GM's in this league know when to move on from aging veterans and it was a massive mistake bringing back all these guys, especially at their current contracts.

 

This is why I predict that Rapp will supplant Hyde or Poyer as starter sooner than later so I guess give Beane credit for that contingency plan.

 


So dramatic. Hyde has been insanely durable throughout his career. Last year was literally the only instance where he’s missed time. 

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1 minute ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Hyde essentially missed all of last season and is on the wrong side of 30. And now alas we are hearing about a back injury (which is obviously not a minor problem for anyone that has had back issues)

 

If it was up to me I would have moved on. Also there's a reason his running mate didn't get much interest on the FA market either.

 

This isn't an example. this is just more vomit spin. Examples of hardcore fantastic GMs consistently cutting old productive vets, please.

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I blame the people who were celebrating the Kelce injury in the other thread!

 

really hope it’s nothing serious but this is going to be an issue with both safeties going forward. Getting old sucks.

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2 minutes ago, Nelius said:

 

This isn't an example. this is just more vomit spin. Examples of hardcore fantastic GMs consistently cutting old productive vets, please.

 

Belichik and the Patriots didn't it for years and is one of the major reasons why they dominated the AFCE (and entire league) the greater part of 20 years. Remember our old friend Lawyer Milloy?

 

I like Hyde and Poyer and they've been great players for this team. This is not  up for debate. But I think all the warning signs are there if you trust the local media pundits in regards to both of them looking a step slower in camp/preseason.

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Just now, FilthyBeast said:

 

Belichik and the Patriots didn't it for years and is one of the major reasons why they dominated the AFCE (and entire league) the greater part of 20 years. Remember our old friend Lawyer Milloy?

 

I like Hyde and Poyer and they've been great players for this team. This is not  up for debate. But I think all the warning signs are there if you trust the local media pundits in regards to both of them looking a step slower in camp/preseason.

 

Your example of "all of the truly great GMs" is a singular Bill Belicheat reference from years ago? Lame even for you.

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