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[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, Bangarang said:

Burrow’s 7 playoff games:

1826 passing yards

101 rushing yards

67% completion 
7.3 ypa 

10 TDs (1 rushing)

4 INTs

 

Josh’s 8 playoff games:

2334 passing yards

417 rushing yards

63% completion 

7.6 ypa

19 TDs (2 rushing)

4 INTs

 

Burrow, according to you, has IT in the playoffs but the Josh doesn’t. You’re a troll. 

One receiving TD too 👍

[GunnerBill]

44 minutes ago, mannc said:

And why is the OP referring to an offensive tackle?

 

Cos Cincy't tackle situation is so bad Joe blocks for himself?

Edited September 6, 2023 by GunnerBill

[Simon]

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[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

Literally every single person in the country agrees Mahomes and then Burrow except for posters on here. What did he say that was so offensive to you? The truth? Every person you talk to in the world has Burrow as a better QB over Allen currently. This should not be shocking to any of you

If you poll every talking head at ESPN, sure. 
 

If you ask actual GM’s, I’m pretty confident you’d get a different answer. 
 

Youre talking down to posters, some of whom (like myself) have had very real criticisms of this team and are not homers, like we’re incapable of separating our fandom from reality … when you’re out here giving us narratives from First Take and Get Up. 
 

Edited September 6, 2023 by SCBills

[BeastMaster]

19 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Of course not and not to minimize that great performance but they caught a break playing a fading Patriots team at the right time.

 

Again, JA17 can take the next step in the playoffs at some point but won't be with the current regime.

I don't agree with much from this poster, but I do believe that Allen has gone as far as he can go under this current regime.

 

He needs a coaching staff that will help him get over the hump, not for him to prop them up. 

 

Allen is the reason McDermott still has a job as the HC of the Bills

[Bangarang]

Just now, GoBills808 said:

One receiving TD too 👍

Goodness, can’t believe I forgot that.

[Bill from NYC]

34 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

JA17 is still a very special talent but unfortunately he doesn't seem to have the 'it' factor in the postseason like Mahomes/Burrow, outside of the '13 seconds' debacle when he played the game of his career only to be let down by horrendous coaching.

 

Hopefully his next coach will truly bring out the best in him and elevate him to aforementioned QB's levels.

His coach drafts defensive players. He places more importance in corner backs than he does in blockers and wide receivers for his GREAT quarterback, players that didn't help that much in 13 seconds.

 

McDermott does not bring out the best in Josh. Josh is great in spite of him.

[K D]

14 minutes ago, SCBills said:

If you poll every talking head at ESPN, sure. 
 

If you ask actual GM’s, I’m pretty confident you’d get a different answer. 
 

Youre talking down to posters, some of whom (like myself) have had very real criticisms of this team and are not homers, like we’re incapable of separating our fandom from reality … when you’re out here giving us narratives from First Take and Get Up. 
 

I have friends in other states, other countries. Nobody would have Josh Allen over Joe Burrow. Only people in Buffalo. It's honestly embarrassing. It lumps me in with the fans who can't think critically for themselves. It's nice to be a fan but you can't be completely brainwashed into thinking the Bills are amazing and unfailable. We haven't won anything ever. A lot on here might even have Allen over Mahomes which is hilarious. Mahomes will probably be the #1 or #2 best QB of all time. Josh will be lucky to crack the top 20. Very delusional people around here unfortunately.

Edited September 6, 2023 by KDIGGZ

[GoBills808]

3 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

I have friends in other states, other countries. Nobody would have Josh Allen over Joe Burrow. Only people in Buffalo. It's honestly embarrassing. It lumps me in with the fans who can't think critically for themselves. It's nice to be a fan but you can't be completely brainwashed into thinking the Bills are amazing and unfailable. We haven't won anything ever. A lot on here might even have Allen over Mahomes which is hilarious. Mahomes will probably be the #1 or #2 best QB of all time. Josh will be lucky to crack the top 25. Very delusional people around here unfortunately.

You get embarrassed too easily sounds like 

 

Suggest you toughen up 

[HappyDays]

4 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

It lumps me in with the fans who can't think critically for themselves.

 

Didn't you promise to leave the forum forever if we drafted Josh Allen?

[eball]

29 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

Literally every single person in the country agrees Mahomes and then Burrow except for posters on here. What did he say that was so offensive to you? The truth? Every person you talk to in the world has Burrow as a better QB over Allen currently. This should not be shocking to any of you

 

I think a lot of NFL GMs disagree with you.  If given the chance to draft Burrow or Allen I think it's probably 3-to-1 for Allen.

 

And with respect to the FilthyTroll, I stand by my assessment.

 

[QB Bills]

1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Joe is overrated.  Gonna say it now.  

 

He is a very good QB, not saying he isn't good.  But he has gotten overrated on the back of his teams success as if he is neck and neck with Mahomes, and he just isn't.  Look at the KC game they won to advance to the SB.  They didn't win because of Burrow, they won because the Bengals defense somehow managed to hold Mahomes and KC to 3 points in the 2nd half keeping the score low enough for the Bengals to creep back in and steal the game.  

 

Allen carved up that same D with ease the week before until Loosey Frazier and the D gave away the game with 13 seconds and OT.  

 

No question he was going to be the highest paid all time with this contract, that is just how QB contracts work.  But Joe hasn't gotten it done while loaded with weapons, and he is about to start to lose those weapons soon because they can't keep them all.  His playoff stats are underwhelming, but he gets propped up because the team won some games and reached a SB.  But he gets all the credit for that, and its not really been a case where Burrow is lighting the games up.  

 

Again, one of the best young QB's in the league, not saying he sucks by any means.  Just saying he is not in the same class as Mahomes even though that is the tier everyone wants to put him in.  

Question for you as I've seen many fans parrot the same line. What makes you say that Frazier was the one responsible for the 13 seconds choke job?

[Alphadawg7]

2 minutes ago, QB Bills said:

Question for you as I've seen many fans parrot the same line. What makes you say that Frazier was the one responsible for the 13 seconds choke job?

 

Well considering I have seen Fraziers defense fold year after year in the playoffs, its a safe guess.

[QB Bills]

Just now, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Well considering I have seen Fraziers defense fold year after year in the playoffs, its a safe guess.

I'm just curious as to how you and other fans like you continue to blame him when he's essentially running McDermott's defense. If you actually watched the end of that game, you'd see that it was McDermott running up and down the sidelines calling timeouts.

 

It's just a ridiculous coping mechanism that you'd never ascribe to another team. If the Rams offense falls flat, nobody is going to blame the OC. Same in KC. And if the defense craps the bed for the Jets, I doubt they blame their coordinator.

 

It's okay to say McDermott choked away that game and potentially a super bowl trophy. It doesn't make you a lesser fan.

[Saxum]

1 hour ago, Gambit said:

OT stands for off topic

 

NFL is not OT for this board. 

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said:

I have friends in other states, other countries. Nobody would have Josh Allen over Joe Burrow. Only people in Buffalo. It's honestly embarrassing. It lumps me in with the fans who can't think critically for themselves. It's nice to be a fan but you can't be completely brainwashed into thinking the Bills are amazing and unfailable. We haven't won anything ever. A lot on here might even have Allen over Mahomes which is hilarious. Mahomes will probably be the #1 or #2 best QB of all time. Josh will be lucky to crack the top 20. Very delusional people around here unfortunately.

Well, since you included your friends in other states and other countries, it must be true!  No room for discussion!  

[K D]

6 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said:

Well, since you included your friends in other states and other countries, it must be true!  No room for discussion!  

As was already mentioned by the person I was replying to, every media too. At this point, please post anyone outside of Bills fans that would have Josh Allen ranked higher than Burrow. It's almost impossible to find. Yet when a poster correctly stated such, he was burned at the stake.

[Saxum]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Didn't you promise to leave the forum forever if we drafted Josh Allen?

 

Maybe he meant Josh Allen the LB who would be very useful right now.

[Alphadawg7]

41 minutes ago, QB Bills said:

I'm just curious as to how you and other fans like you continue to blame him when he's essentially running McDermott's defense. If you actually watched the end of that game, you'd see that it was McDermott running up and down the sidelines calling timeouts.

 

It's just a ridiculous coping mechanism that you'd never ascribe to another team. If the Rams offense falls flat, nobody is going to blame the OC. Same in KC. And if the defense craps the bed for the Jets, I doubt they blame their coordinator.

 

It's okay to say McDermott choked away that game and potentially a super bowl trophy. It doesn't make you a lesser fan.

 

You know there was OT too?  So you are saying Frazier had nothing to do with 13 seconds and OT in terms of calling the defense even though he calls the defense?

[Jauronimo]

19 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said:

Well, since you included your friends in other states and other countries, it must be true!  No room for discussion!  

He used the same friends in other countries argument to disparage Zweigles hotdogs! Ignore this heretic.