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[78thealltimegreat]

Good for him he’s a hell of a quarterback and unlike some of these others is worth every penny. Josh now number 10 and after Dak and Trevor’s new deals 12th paid QB… just amazing enjoy the discount while it lasts 

 

 

[LabattBlue]

Would it have killed you to put his last name in the thread title? 👎🏻

[SCBills]

I think I read that Burrow's agent is the same one that Bosa and Jones have. 

 

Going to be interesting to see if their owner can alleviate the financial concerns surrounding him.  Burrow and Chase will get paid, but that isn't the issue... the issue becomes if he's willing to pay the huge signing bonuses needed to play cap gymnastics with everyone else. 

[mannc]

5 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

Would it have killed you to put his last name in the thread title? 👎🏻

And why is the OP referring to an offensive tackle?

[ColoradoBills]

Spotrac had his Market Value at $54M per year which would make him highest paid in the league.

Hebert $52.5M

 

They also have the following for next year's Bengal UFAs.

Higgins - $22.7M

Reader - $16M

Boyd - $15.2M

Williams - 14.9M

Smith - $10.3M

 

Chase currently at $24.9M

 

Somethings got to give.

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said:

Spotrac had his Market Value at $54M per year which would make him highest paid in the league.

Hebert $52.5M

 

They also have the following for next year's Bengal UFAs.

Higgins - $22.7M

Reader - $16M

Boyd - $15.2M

Williams - 14.9M

Smith - $10.3M

 

Chase currently at $24.9M

 

Somethings got to give.

 

They should very much want to get Chase locked up before Jefferson.  I think Jefferson might become a 30M per WR.

[FilthyBeast]

10 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Good for him he’s a hell of a quarterback and unlike some of these others is worth every penny. Josh now number 10 and after Dak and Trevor’s new deals 12th paid QB… just amazing enjoy the discount while it lasts 

 

 

 

Bengals would be stupid not to.

 

Burrow is a truly special talent and I still see him as '1B' to Mahomes. I think Bengals win their first SB this year too which will reignite the best QB in the NFL debate and still wouldn't be surprised if he eventually surpasses Mahomes in terms of championships in the coming years.

[MJS]

4 minutes ago, mannc said:

And why is the OP referring to an offensive tackle?

Maybe I'm an idiot, but what does that refer to?

[Gambit]

2 minutes ago, MJS said:

Maybe I'm an idiot, but what does that refer to?

OT stands for off topic

[SCBills]

4 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Bengals would be stupid not to.

 

Burrow is a truly special talent and I still see him as '1B' to Mahomes. I think Bengals win their first SB this year too which will reignite the best QB in the NFL debate and still wouldn't be surprised if he eventually surpasses Mahomes in terms of championships in the coming years.

 

I truly hope the Bills have finally given Allen the offensive help required to put his supporting cast on par with what Mahomes and Burrow have had, because I'm beyond sick of these takes.  

 

Edited September 6, 2023 by SCBills

[ColoradoBills]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

 

They should very much want to get Chase locked up before Jefferson.  I think Jefferson might become a 30M per WR.

 

Yep.  I listed him because next season would likely be the time to do that.  I don't think they want to have him wait on the 5th year to extend.

Then again, it's the Bengals and Mike Brown has a history.

[Alphadawg7]

Joe is overrated.  Gonna say it now.  

 

He is a very good QB, not saying he isn't good.  But he has gotten overrated on the back of his teams success as if he is neck and neck with Mahomes, and he just isn't.  Look at the KC game they won to advance to the SB.  They didn't win because of Burrow, they won because the Bengals defense somehow managed to hold Mahomes and KC to 3 points in the 2nd half keeping the score low enough for the Bengals to creep back in and steal the game.  

 

Allen carved up that same D with ease the week before until Loosey Frazier and the D gave away the game with 13 seconds and OT.  

 

No question he was going to be the highest paid all time with this contract, that is just how QB contracts work.  But Joe hasn't gotten it done while loaded with weapons, and he is about to start to lose those weapons soon because they can't keep them all.  His playoff stats are underwhelming, but he gets propped up because the team won some games and reached a SB.  But he gets all the credit for that, and its not really been a case where Burrow is lighting the games up.  

 

Again, one of the best young QB's in the league, not saying he sucks by any means.  Just saying he is not in the same class as Mahomes even though that is the tier everyone wants to put him in.  

[MJS]

2 minutes ago, Gambit said:

OT stands for off topic

Ok. I literally could not think of anything besides offensive tackle.

[FilthyBeast]

Just now, SCBills said:

 

I truly hope the Bills have finally given Allen the offensive help required to put his supporting cast on par with what Mahomes and Burrow, because I'm beyond sick of these takes.  

 

 

JA17 is still a very special talent but unfortunately he doesn't seem to have the 'it' factor in the postseason like Mahomes/Burrow, outside of the '13 seconds' debacle when he played the game of his career only to be let down by horrendous coaching.

 

Hopefully his next coach will truly bring out the best in him and elevate him to aforementioned QB's levels.

[mannc]

3 minutes ago, Gambit said:

OT stands for off topic

I know you're not the OP, but how is it off topic?  I thought this was a Bills/NFL message board... 

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

JA17 is still a very special talent but unfortunately he doesn't seem to have the 'it' factor in the postseason like Mahomes/Burrow, outside of the '13 seconds' debacle when he played the game of his career only to be let down by horrendous coaching.

 

Hopefully his next coach will truly bring out the best in him and elevate him to aforementioned QB's levels.

 

Please, tell me more about Burrow's postseason "it" factor....  Give me specific examples.

 

Because he hasn't had an Allen vs NE game or an Allen vs KC game.   And this narrative is pure bs based on something completely out of JA's control in 13 seconds... we are NOT having this discussion if our coaching staff/defense don't choke that game away.   Regardless of whether we go on to win the SB that year, that playoff game should be in Allen's back pocket as out-dueling Mahomes in Arrowhead to advance to the AFC CG.

 

Yet here we are, with you giving Burrow credit for being carried by his defense. 

 

 

Edited September 6, 2023 by SCBills

[The Jokeman]

4 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

JA17 is still a very special talent but unfortunately he doesn't seem to have the 'it' factor in the postseason like Mahomes/Burrow, outside of the '13 seconds' debacle when he played the game of his career only to be let down by horrendous coaching.

 

Hopefully his next coach will truly bring out the best in him and elevate him to aforementioned QB's levels.

Have you forgotten the "perfect" playoff game against the Patriots? Josh has "it" yet sadly his counter parts (on defense) have let him down many a time. See Houston OT game, see KC OT game see start of Bengals game.

Edited September 6, 2023 by The Jokeman

[Teddy KGB]

7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Joe is overrated.  Gonna say it now.  

 

He is a very good QB, not saying he isn't good.  But he has gotten overrated on the back of his teams success as if he is neck and neck with Mahomes, and he just isn't.  Look at the KC game they won to advance to the SB.  They didn't win because of Burrow, they won because the Bengals defense somehow managed to hold Mahomes and KC to 3 points in the 2nd half keeping the score low enough for the Bengals to creep back in and steal the game.  

 

Allen carved up that same D with ease the week before until Loosey Frazier and the D gave away the game with 13 seconds and OT.  

 

No question he was going to be the highest paid all time with this contract, that is just how QB contracts work.  But Joe hasn't gotten it done while loaded with weapons, and he is about to start to lose those weapons soon because they can't keep them all.  His playoff stats are underwhelming, but he gets propped up because the team won some games and reached a SB.  But he gets all the credit for that, and its not really been a case where Burrow is lighting the games up.  

 

Again, one of the best young QB's in the league, not saying he sucks by any means.  Just saying he is not in the same class as Mahomes even though that is the tier everyone wants to put him in.  
 

 

With all due respect this is a wild take.    

Guy took a team with no OL to a SB 

 

[FilthyBeast]

Just now, SCBills said:

 

Please, tell me more about Burrow's postseason "it" factor....  Give me specific examples.

 

Because he hasn't had an Allen vs NE game or an Allen vs KC game.   And this narrative is pure bs based on something completely out of JA's control in 13 seconds... we are NOT having this discussion if our coaching staff/defense don't choke that game away.   Regardless of whether we go on to win the SB that year, that playoff game should be in Allen's back pocket of out-dueling Mahomes in Arrowhead to advance to the AFC CG.

 

5-2 career playoff record

3-1 career road playoff record in AFC (including @ KC and @ BUF)

1 SB appearance and led until late in 4th quarter

 

Again no one is bashing JA17 but at the end of the day if you polled 32 NFL GM's,  pretty much all of them would take Burrow over JA17 based on current body of work. And 31 out of 32 would certainly take Mahomes.

[Ya Digg?]

6 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

JA17 is still a very special talent but unfortunately he doesn't seem to have the 'it' factor in the postseason like Mahomes/Burrow, outside of the '13 seconds' debacle when he played the game of his career only to be let down by horrendous coaching.

 

Hopefully his next coach will truly bring out the best in him and elevate him to aforementioned QB's levels.

So he doesn't have the "it" factor in the playoffs???  He averages 300 yards per game, over 2 touchdowns, and half a turnover a game.  Mr. "has it" Burrow averages less than 250 yards, barely 1 touchdown per game, and has the same amount of interceptions.  But keep going with your misinformation