AuntieEm Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 On 9/5/2023 at 10:23 PM, HomeTeam said: Jesus man, the thought that these guys have to work in a construction site after playing football professionally is saddening. May he rest in peace 😔 Well those that didn't set aside any of their nfl money have to work. Gronk was smart he banked invested his nfl money and just lived on the money he got with endorsements. For all the talk about Diggs yearning for strip clubs... anyone else see his Instagram post in offseason where he was fixing his daughters hair like a pro. Think he has different priorities than strip clubs. Quote
AuntieEm Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) 23 hours ago, That's No Moon said: Every single college athlete should be required to take a class in finance during their freshman year. Most high schools don't , or at least don't require it, and if you don't come from background where you can acquire that knowledge informally it's really easy to blow through that amount of money in a short period of time. Without even thinking about it, reduce that 15 million figure by at least 50%. Then get into his agent's fee, his lawyer, any houses, cars, jewelry, business ventures, loans and gifts to friends, etc. Hell, it's downright easy to spend 7.5 million over a 10 year span. Yea. I think every agent should be setting up a proper financial plan for the v player to set aside a percent a ge in trust for that players future housing needs plus a small allowance for food and utilities. Easy to afford a acceptable modest home with the money they earn in nfl. While 0laying they can even rent out the home for extra money in their trust. If they have a 2nd career in whatever interests them then the trust is still getting income from his house if he does not need it. Maybe prefers a apartment. 59 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: So many crazy reports. Think they mixing up a couple different Mike Williams. Edited September 7, 2023 by AuntieEm Quote
Simon Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 From CBS: Williams, 36, had been working in Hillsborough County when he was injured last week, according to the mother of his 8-year-old daughter, Tierney Lyle. The former NFL player was mostly nonresponsive when visited Wednesday afternoon, and while the plan is reportedly for Williams to be removed from life support in the ICU, that has yet to occur. "They were waiting on me and Tierney ," Lyle said. "We're here and still trying to figure it out. "He was asleep when we went in there and he woke up when he heard our voices and his daughter's voice. And he looked around, and he blinked and he was crying, but he can't move." 12 Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 7 hours ago, NoSaint said: no but sacrificing your body for generational wealth and then losing that retirement money and having to go back to the grind in a tough labor role is a bit of a bummer, no? I hand you $15m today and in 2030 you are working construction and I think we can both agree it’s not one of the outcomes you’d be most happy to see. I had forgotten about the big contract but he earned 11.8M in the nfl which is more than I was thinking but it’s also not that hard to squander when you have no clue. He could have beeen set up reasonably well Quote
John from Riverside Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 34 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: I had forgotten about the big contract but he earned 11.8M in the nfl which is more than I was thinking but it’s also not that hard to squander when you have no clue. He could have beeen set up reasonably well Financial planning is a must for a professional athlete Or a mama that they listen to 1 Quote
EasternOHBillsFan Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 So if he's not dead and almost completely paralyzed (below the waist and right arm), how is that living? Personally I would not want to be alive if that happened to me, period. I simply cannot process this update going from dead to almost complete paralysis it makes me so sick and is extremely heavy on my soul after finding this out. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-former-nfl-wide-receiver-mike-williams-suffered-complete-paralysis-from-waist-down-from-life-threatening-accident/ar-AA1glN0B 1 1 Quote
juno999 Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Financial planning is a must for a professional athlete Or a mama that they listen to Financial planning is must for everyone 1 Quote
HOUSE Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 If this guy is on life support, I would think a Go fund would be in order Quote
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, HOUSE said: If this guy is on life support, I would think a Go fund would be in order there ALREADY IS ONE Edited September 7, 2023 by RoyBatty is alive 1 Quote
NoSaint Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 14 hours ago, AuntieEm said: Well those that didn't set aside any of their nfl money have to work. Gronk was smart he banked invested his nfl money and just lived on the money he got with endorsements. For all the talk about Diggs yearning for strip clubs... anyone else see his Instagram post in offseason where he was fixing his daughters hair like a pro. Think he has different priorities than strip clubs. I think those two sides of him very clearly co-exist but it’s a strange strange place for that discussion. 4 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: So if he's not dead and almost completely paralyzed (below the waist and right arm), how is that living? Personally I would not want to be alive if that happened to me, period. I simply cannot process this update going from dead to almost complete paralysis it makes me so sick and is extremely heavy on my soul after finding this out. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-former-nfl-wide-receiver-mike-williams-suffered-complete-paralysis-from-waist-down-from-life-threatening-accident/ar-AA1glN0B He could still have a wheelchair to get around controlled by his good arm. it’s certainly not ideal but I think a lot of folks would rather be around still. Big moments with their kids, etc… is a lot of incentive to struggle through the care needed. 1 2 Quote
Shortchaz Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 4 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: So if he's not dead and almost completely paralyzed (below the waist and right arm), how is that living? Personally I would not want to be alive if that happened to me, period. I simply cannot process this update going from dead to almost complete paralysis it makes me so sick and is extremely heavy on my soul after finding this out. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-former-nfl-wide-receiver-mike-williams-suffered-complete-paralysis-from-waist-down-from-life-threatening-accident/ar-AA1glN0B There’s an old study that compares the level of happiness in accident victims and people who win the lottery. If you don’t think you could have a happy/productive life as a paralyzed person it’s because you don’t have to. If you did, you could. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/690806/ 3 Quote
PetermansRedemption Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 8 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said: I had forgotten about the big contract but he earned 11.8M in the nfl which is more than I was thinking but it’s also not that hard to squander when you have no clue. He could have beeen set up reasonably well Exceptionally well*. He could have earned 360k per year in interest alone on 6 million of those career earnings. That doesn’t even count the fact that he would still have the principal. That’s assuming he paid 6 million to taxes, agent, squandered a reasonable amount on garbage. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 On 9/5/2023 at 10:23 PM, HomeTeam said: Jesus man, the thought that these guys have to work in a construction site after playing football professionally is saddening. That's the sad part? The mere thought of it? What if you work construction without having played pro football (nearly everyone in construction)? Should those people feel better or worse after reading your comment? 1 1 Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 22 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Exceptionally well*. He could have earned 360k per year in interest alone on 6 million of those career earnings. That doesn’t even count the fact that he would still have the principal. That’s assuming he paid 6 million to taxes, agent, squandered a reasonable amount on garbage. COuld have earned plenty in the market....where woudl he have gotten better than 5% interest the last 15 years? Quote
PetermansRedemption Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: COuld have earned plenty in the market....where woudl he have gotten better than 5% interest the last 15 years? A bit of hyperbole on my part. I should have said 4%, which I’m sure would have been attainable with well paying dividend stocks. Quote
HomeTeam Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 6 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: That's the sad part? The mere thought of it? What if you work construction without having played pro football (nearly everyone in construction)? Should those people feel better or worse after reading your comment? I work in construction xD Quote
Simon Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 A bit more info on Mike WIlliams: Two people close to Williams said his on-the-job accident was not initially thought to be life-threatening. He was hit in the head with a beam while doing electrical work on Aug. 21, a friend said, but his situation took a turn when his laceration became infected. Williams was hospitalized on Sept. 1 and eventually had to be induced him into a coma. Williams, 36, had been on life support this week after suffering complications from a workplace accident. He was taken off a ventilator Thursday evening but is surviving and remains responsive, according to Tierney Lyle, the mother of Williams’ 8-year-old daughter. Link to WIVB article 1 Quote
MJS Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 On 9/7/2023 at 7:45 AM, EasternOHBillsFan said: So if he's not dead and almost completely paralyzed (below the waist and right arm), how is that living? Personally I would not want to be alive if that happened to me, period. I simply cannot process this update going from dead to almost complete paralysis it makes me so sick and is extremely heavy on my soul after finding this out. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-former-nfl-wide-receiver-mike-williams-suffered-complete-paralysis-from-waist-down-from-life-threatening-accident/ar-AA1glN0B It does require a shift in perspective and self identity, for sure, and that would probably be even more pronounced for a former pro athlete. I'm sure a big part of his identity is rooted in his athleticism and physical strength. But people can make that shift and find happiness even in the face of tremendous physical adversity, and part of that comes from the realization that you are more than your physical body and physical abilities. You have value in many other areas. Christopher Reeve is a good example. He accomplished a lot after his accident and even continued acting. 1 Quote
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