Bills-Jets week 1

[TheWei44]

I was living in Alexandria, VA full time.  Our townhouse a mile or two from the pentagon.  Was driving into downtown DC that sunny (Tuesday?) morning.  Not a cloud in the sky,

[blacklabel]

They'll fly out tomorrow afternoon for the game, ya? I wondered if they would travel same day since it's a 45 minute flight but that's probably not how they do it. 

 

Pretty sure I saw Jordan Phillips at the Target, that's why the travel question came up because I was like, "They fly out on Saturdays for away games, oh no, did they forget him?!" Then my brain reverted out of dummy mode and said oh right, they'll travel tomorrow. 

[BigAl2526]

It's been said in this thread (correctly, I think) that the Jets have built their team specifically to beat the Bills.  If the Bills win the game on Monday, it will be far more devastating to the Jets' hopes for the season than it would be for the Bills if the Jets win.  I'm expecting a tough game, but there's no reason to think the Bills will lose if they play to their ability. 

[The Wiz]

 

[Rocky Landing]

27 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Doesn’t what a 12 personnel?

 

Again, my point was a run heavy or balanced attack is a bad game plan with Allen as the QB… regardless of weather. 

Well, there's balanced, and there's balanced. When Daboll was running a pure spread offense, with no run game in '21, teams like the Dolphins, and Jags did figure out how to exploit it. I think they feel Cook is a key element because he only needs to be average as a running back, but with legit receiving skills. If we can trust Allen to read a defense, and execute an RPO, (we certainly can), then the balanced attack becomes a nightmare for opposing defenses. 

 

Which I know doesn't negate, or contradict your point. An RPO is "in Allen's hands," so to speak.

[Warcodered]

22 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

 

I mean he's not wrong.

[Royale with Cheese]

53 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Doesn’t what a 12 personnel?

 

Again, my point was a run heavy or balanced attack is a bad game plan with Allen as the QB… regardless of weather. 

So you want throw the ball 40 times in a thunderstorm?  You think that’s a good idea?

[In Summary]

Get the ball out quickly. Fewer 7-step drop plays. Get some rhythm. 

[Beck Water]

This should maybe have its own thread

 

Is this good, or bad?

 

 

[Beck Water]

27 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

Well, there's balanced, and there's balanced. When Daboll was running a pure spread offense, with no run game in '21, teams like the Dolphins, and Jags did figure out how to exploit it. I think they feel Cook is a key element because he only needs to be average as a running back, but with legit receiving skills. If we can trust Allen to read a defense, and execute an RPO, (we certainly can), then the balanced attack becomes a nightmare for opposing defenses. 

 

Which I know doesn't negate, or contradict your point. An RPO is "in Allen's hands," so to speak.

 

There's three aspects of the Bills run game to consider:

1) how many times they run

2) of those runs, how many times is there a handoff vs. Josh Allen being the runner

3) how effectively do they run?

 

I believe Dorsey has commented something to the effect that "we don't need to run the ball more, we need to run the ball more effectively".

 

There needs to be enough of a run game, and effective enough of a run game, to keep the defenses "honest", in other words with some understanding that they need to play gap-sound defense and not just pin their ears back and go after Josh.  That doesn't mean there has to be more run plays, but they have to be effective enough to achieve that.

[Beck Water]

28 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

This should maybe have its own thread

 

Is this good, or bad?

 

 

 

 

 

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:

Doesn’t what a 12 personnel?

 

Again, my point was a run heavy or balanced attack is a bad game plan with Allen as the QB… regardless of weather. 

 

They don't need to go run heavy or be balanced. They just need to show they can run the ball when they want to. It's easier on an oline when the defense can't just pin their ears back and rush the passer every down.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

1) I’d feel a LOT better about Monday night if we had Von ready to go

 

2) Maybe Leonard Floyd can bring that needed jolt to the pass rush that we lacked post-thanksgiving 

[Scott7975]

10 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

 

 

 

They needed to be the crew for that KC game then lol.

[Beck Water]

1 minute ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

1) I’d feel a LOT better about Monday night if we had Von ready to go

 

2) Maybe Leonard Floyd can bring that needed jolt to the pass rush that we lacked post-thanksgiving 

 

Bills are hyping up Greg Rousseau.  He's stronger, he's faster, he's ready to crawl all over opposing QBs.

 

Time Will Tell

[BrettFavre]

Weather forecast for Monday night in NYC has been improving for a couple days, with only light showers possible at times during the game now. As of right now, this isn't looking like the slop fest predicted two days ago.

 

However, tons of flights into NYC are getting cancelled today and tomorrow. My crew is piling into an SUV and making the drive at 7a tomorrow to avoid the headaches of rebooked flights. Go Bills.

[The Wiz]

32 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

 

 

Sauce gonna get away with this anyways.

Edited September 10, 2023 by The Wiz

[Dr. Who]

1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

This should maybe have its own thread

 

Is this good, or bad?

 

 

@chongli started a thread on it Wednesday entitled Buffalo at New York Jets Week One officials . . . Flags will go flying! 

It's on page 2. I vote bad, btw, but not insurmountable.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

34 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Bills are hyping up Greg Rousseau.  He's stronger, he's faster, he's ready to crawl all over opposing QBs.

 

Time Will Tell

Hope so!

 

I don’t believe he brings the same level of twitch abd finess to his rush as the aforementioned but that doesn’t mean he can’t be a force.

[NewEra]

On 9/8/2023 at 6:16 PM, Nextmanup said:

This game is in NYC on 9/11.

I assume they will do some god awful 9/11 tribute with cops, firefighters, and a huge American flag...

 

The game will probably start WAY late.

 

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