Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 A wise man on Twitter recently said, to paraphrase: "No player is ever as appreciated by bills fans as someone the Bills trade away" 1 Quote
RobbRiddick Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 I predict this thread gets bumped every time he has a sack 1 Quote
freddyjj Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 No Boogie was not a multiple game starter for the Bills like Teller. Boogie got 2 full years to prove his worth. Boogie has no burst or ability to get low around the corner to QB. Boogie will not play 5 technique DE for Giants but will have to transition to OLB. Not sure he can 1 1 Quote
SectionC3 Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: No. Boogie is not particularly good at much. People need to stop making the same lazy comparison to Wyatt Teller. He's a .250 hitter in baseball without exceptional power. Quote
Process Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: He's a .250 hitter in baseball without exceptional power. .250 is very generous 1 Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 1 hour ago, blacklabel said: Wyatt Teller is kind of a unicorn situation. He played DL thru high school and only switched to OL in like his junior year of college. He was still coming along and developing and learning the position. I guess they must've figured other guys on the roster were ahead of him. It's all hindsight now. Does he turn into an All Pro with the Bills or does Cleveland's scheme just suit him better? I dunno. I doubt Boogie goes off for some epic All Pro season. He's likely a depth guy no matter what team he's on. Can't wait for more posts like these during the season. Isaiah Hodgins makes a five yard catch: Beane is the worst! Boogie tackles a guy after a ten yard gain: Beane messed up! Waived draft pick Nick Broeker starts a game in Houston: it's Teller Part Two and Beane is still the worst! Whereas Boogie was 24 when he was drafted - was likely much closer to his ceiling by then. Quote
Coldfronts Posted September 4, 2023 Author Posted September 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Sierra Foothills said: The OP has a fair question though I'm not a big fan of dragging Teller into the discussion. Will it be viewed as a mistake to trade away Boogie Basham (especially for almost nothing)? Basham had his best preseason so far and I for one was excited to see how much he improved. And though I was happy when we drafted Epenesa, I would rather have traded him than Basham. I hope McBeane got this one right though I'm a bit worried that they didn't. this is my thoughts too Quote
benderbender Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 This from the crowd that believes missing out on the STD punter will cost us our SB window. Quote
FireChans Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: I’m just not sure what they envisioned for boogie when they took him. Was it actually dramatically different than we saw? I’m sure a little more upside but they couldn’t have expected him to be a breakout star or anything. Just a rotational piece. and if that’s the case there’s a lot of questions about why make the pick in the first place if a guy off the street like shaq is fine in that role. Go ahead and dedicate the valuable pick elsewhere It was very brutal. It felt like a need pick, but the need wasn’t really there with Addison/Huges/AJE and Rousseau the round before on the roster already. Really one of Beane’s worst picks from a process standpoint IMO. Cody Ford busted but I saw the vision. I have no idea what they were doing with Boogie. 1 Quote
NewEra Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 He’s 25 years old. Epenesa is 24 Rousseau is 23 Yet he needs more time? They thought Kingsley Jonathan was better. You might be right. He may eventually be a decent contributor….but a Wyatt Teller caliber player, he will never be imo Quote
GunnerBill Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 No. He has no way to win in the NFL. That was true when he came out of Wake Forest and it is true now. Quote
DJB Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) Personally I wish we had traded Epenesa instead of Boogie. I saw some passing down rush QB abilities with Boogie. Epenesa I see much if nothing other than a low end Shaq Lawson if we are lucky Im just mostly disappointed we wasted another 2nd round pick Edited September 4, 2023 by DJB 2 1 Quote
FireChans Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 1 minute ago, DJB said: Personally I wish we had traded Epenesa instead of Boogie. I saw some passing down rush QB abilities with Boogie. Epenesa I see much if nothing other than a low end Shaq Lawson if we are lucky Im just mostly disappointed we wasted another 2nd round pick Epenesa has no value. Boogie barely did. 1 1 Quote
DJB Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 Just now, FireChans said: Epenesa has no value. Boogie barely did. Fair enough I’ll give you that 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, NewEra said: He’s 25 years old. Epenesa is 24 Rousseau is 23 Yet he needs more time? They thought Kingsley Jonathan was better. You might be right. He may eventually be a decent contributor….but a Wyatt Teller caliber player, he will never be imo He'll be 26 by the end of this season. He is who he is who he is. A big bloke who won in college by being a 23 year old man running over kids. When the guys on the other side are as big and as strong he has nada, nothing, zilch. 3 Quote
JohnNord Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Coldfronts said: Got a feeling this was going to be Boogies break out season. Did Breane not give him the time (one more year) to develop like he did to Teller who is now an all pro G or did beane make the right move why? I think Wyatt Teller is the reason why the Bills have gotten behind Spencer Brown. Unfortunately, I don’t see Brown as “the next Wyatt Teller” Quote
Don Otreply Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Augie said: How many times is the latest guy to leave going to be the next Wyatt Teller? Every time…, Quote
QCity Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 Teller is an indictment against the coaching staff, not Beane. 2 Quote
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