Dorsey’s preparation…

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, k2mountain said:

My intuition tells me that Rex Ryan didn't work to the level of other coaches.

🎶We get up at 12 and go to work at 1🎵

🎶Take an hour for lunch, and then at 2 we're done🎵

🎶Jolly good fun!🎵

*
"Hurry up, Rob!  Paula's Donuts on Union Rd. in West Seneca has fresh donuts at 3 pm!"

*

Edited September 3, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013

[Dan in Owego]

Just now, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

🎶We get up at 12 and go to work at 1🎵

🎶Take an hour for lunch, and then at 2 we're done🎵

🎶Jolly good fun!🎵

*
"Hurry up, Rob!  Paula's Donuts on Union Rd. in West Seneca has fresh donuts at 3 pm!"

Well to be fair Paula's is as the kids say bussing.

[Einstein's Dog]

Unfortunately for Dorsey, time spent in the office is not important in my evaluation of him.  The ranking of the offense is most important and the following are the items I would like to see done:

 

1.  get Kincaid involved early and often.  This is number one on my list and is a big departure from what they did with Hines.

2.  Run Josh less on designed runs and short yardage.  Let Josh's scrambles account for his running total (until maybe the playoffs).

3.  Get Josh on the same page and get more short passes incorporated - swings and screens.

[JoshBarnett]

Here is the article …

 

https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/ken-dorsey-buffalo-bills-game-preparations-nfl/article_73640ee6-444f-11ee-bb15-5b2c7e37403b.html#tncms-source=login

 

 

[Saxum]

2 hours ago, Bangarang said:

This is probably a typical week amongst all coaches and coordinators in the NFL.

 

ESPN had a similar article many years ago detailing the week of John Harbaugh, who spent nights sleeping in his office. Being an NFL is such a ridiculous grind.

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/10012376/baltimore-ravens-head-coach-john-harbaugh-clocks-long-hours-prep-game-day-espn-magazine

 

 

Frankly it is not just in NFL.  I worked 80 hours straight once starting on Monday and ending on Thursday because my boss did not think an item was important for acceptance test overseas and it was first thing they tested.  When US was doing the Haiti deployment I worked 18 hour days for 2 weeks straight because I was labelled essential by Army General in charge. 

 

My sympathy is for the interns who are getting paid next to nothing in NFL and hoping their hard work will earn them a low level position.

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Witch hazel on cotton balls after a thorough cleaning of the area.  Some prefer pricier commercial preparations. 😇

[JohnNord]

2 hours ago, k2mountain said:

My intuition tells me that Rex Ryan didn't work to the level of other coaches.

This is an establish fact.   There are beat reporters that said his pickup would often leave the facility around 4:30 PM.  Plus we know he drove to Cleveland with Rob to watch the WS on Wednesday - usually the biggest day of preparation during the week 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

9 hours ago, eball said:

Great article on the front page this morning, detailing how Dorsey spends his week during the season.  Wow.  The amount of preparation, collaboration, and attention to detail is amazing.  I love reading things like this because most fans don’t understand the effort and dedication some guys put in.  Joe 6-pack who works maybe 40 hours a week sits on his couch and critiques the play-calling.  It’s absurd.

 

Not every play works.  Not every game plan is perfect.  Players make mistakes, and other teams make great plays.  But I will never claim that Dorsey “doesn’t have a clue” or hasn’t done his homework.

 

 

Tom Coughlin, used to schedule his day down to bathroom breaks.  Jim H schedules time with his kids and sleeps on the couch in his office most nights to save the time commuting. 
 

People don’t realize how many hours some of these guys put in to climb that mountain. 

[3rdand12]

8 hours ago, Wizard said:

I assume you are referencing the local paper in Buffalo.

 

What was something specific you found interesting that Dorsey does in his preparations?

 

Whether a player, head coach, or coordinator, these guys have an impressive but also insane level work ethic.

 

Let's hope the preparation leads to an even bigger jump in consistency, creativity, and maximizing all the pieces available in this offense.

 

 

Even if they suck , they work hard. Its part of the job Coaching in the NFL.

But glad Ken is working hard just the same. Hoping and expecting progress this season.
 

lets see those too (lol) TE sets and using the RBs in new and unusual ways ( well different than last season at least )

Excited for the Season !

 Go Bills

 PS dont be afraid to dump off to a Quinton Morris either !

 

[Mike in Horseheads]

6 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

🎶We get up at 12 and go to work at 1🎵

🎶Take an hour for lunch, and then at 2 we're done🎵

🎶Jolly good fun!🎵

*
"Hurry up, Rob!  Paula's Donuts on Union Rd. in West Seneca has fresh donuts at 3 pm!"

*

Rob was a picture of health LOL. boy has this team come a long way from that.

Edited September 4, 2023 by Mike in Horseheads

[3rdand12]

7 hours ago, NoSaint said:

he may be. I wasn’t arguing he was or wasn’t with that statement. Simply that he works a ton doesn’t mean he’s actually succeeding. The OP spent a lot of words on saying more hours means he can’t be questioned. 
 

If you want to shift the topic to measuring successes, do you think there are more than 2 other people in the league that could get more success from this group? I’d say absolutely. Which means 3rd ranked is somewhere in the passable but not elite output category. 

Stats do not win a SB.

that ranking some tout is hardly what the Season looked like.
 No point in pointing out playcalling faults over the seasons or Dorsey kind of stuck at some points.

Or players poor execution of said plays.
 

Its a new season.

The proverbial page has turned and its a new day.
Go get some Dorsey !

7 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

So with this argument, Dorsey will never be elite and only stuck in passable. 

is that what No Saint said ?

Not what I read.

No definitives listed

 Pessimism ? for sure. Arguing against stats is relevant

Throwing Laptops will forever be etched into my mind though.  LOL

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

9 hours ago, eball said:

Joe 6-pack

 

 

Stop with the Joe-phobia 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

25 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

Rob was a pitcher of health LOL. boy has this team come a long way from that.

''Pitcher of Health', alright...probably an extra 1/2 lb. of sugar in that. 👆🏾🤨

[Royale with Cheese]

22 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

is that what No Saint said ?

Not what I read.

No definitives listed

 Pessimism ? for sure. Arguing against stats is relevant

Throwing Laptops will forever be etched into my mind though.  LOL

If you make the statement that “can X amount of coaches do more with this group?”  Which is his reason why #3 is just passable.  Why couldn’t that apply if you’re first?

[3rdand12]

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

If you make the statement that “can X amount of coaches do more with this group?”  Which is his reason why #3 is just passable.  Why couldn’t that apply if you’re first?

Not sure what passable meant in this case. its much more complicated then that imho. So much context to pull from the week to week of last year.

 

I just dont think that was the intention of the statement is all. Maybe i am off here ?

 As long as Dorsey is learning from mistakes, in a holistic manner ? I will not be fretting over last year any longer.

And i was certainly anti Dorsey during the latter half of the season.

Cheers !

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

29 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

Throwing laptops will forever be etched into my mind though.  LOL

Not everything that Belichick and Brady do is worth emulating, Kenny boy.  Try clapping next time?  Holding your head in disbelief? 🤔😁

[3rdand12]

3 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Not everything that Belichick and Brady do is worth emulating, Kenny boy.  Try clapping next time?  Holding your head in disbelief? 🤔😁

or just going to the next play.
Passion is okay.

Unless you are running an Offense during a game. Gotta keep your head screwed on 😉
 we all get pissed, and I get it. But that moment made me wonder about his maturity.

 It's a new year , and another year Wiser i trust

Edited September 3, 2023 by 3rdand12

[Sierra Foothills]

Here's an excerpted/shortened version of  Dorsey's weekly regimen based on the Buffalo News article linked below:

 

Sunday: After the game Dorsey walks over to his office and watches the All 22 to do a post mortem of the game just completed. He takes notes of course.

 

Monday: In the office by 6:45 am. Offensive Coaches meeting at 8 am where his assistants present their player grades from yesterday's game. "Later" Monday is a full offensive meeting with players and coaches. Dorsey goes over the good and the bad. Afterwards he "pops into" the positional group meetings spending most of his time in the QB meeting. After that he attends a team meeting run by McDermott. After this meeting the entire staff is now focused on the upcoming opponent. Dorsey then has his weekly media availability at 3 pm. "Monday night" the staff is working on 1st and 2nd downs and which base run and pass plays might work. Dorsey oversees the pass game and OL Coach Aaron Kromer oversees the run game.

 

Early in the week: Dorsey receives analytics reports from senior director of football research Dennis Lock, and talks game situations with assistant quarterbacks/game management coach Marc Lubick. Completes watching every game the upcoming opponent has played this season.

 

Tuesday: Most of the players are off but the coaches and quarterbacks are at the facility. Dorsey spends time talking with McDermott to get a defensive perspective on the opponents D and also with Josh Allen about what plays they like and dislike for the week's opponent. He also has conversations with his coaches about what they feel will work. By mid-afternoon 1st and 2nd down play calls are finalized and the staff turns its focus to 3rd down planning.

 

Wednesday: 8 am coaches meeting to finalize points of emphasis for upcoming practices and review the practice script of plays with the emphasis on red-zone plays. The opponents personnel and general schemes are presented. The meeting breaks and positional group meetings commence. This is followed by an on-field "walk-through period" and then another meeting, and then a 12:30 practice, another coach’s meeting, another full-offense meeting and then individual position meetings. Afterwards the coaches watch the practice video together to finalize the playlist. The players are excused in the late afternoon but the coaches continue by reviewing “What if?” scenarios – if the opponent does this, how will the Bills block it, where will Allen go with the football, how will the receivers and tight ends adjust their routes? They call them their “rules.” Next up is the red zone. Says Dorsey “There is the element of never feeling like there is enough time in the day.”

 

Thursday: In the 90 minutes before the 8 am offensive staff meeting, Dorsey double-checks the Thursday practice script to make sure the right things are being emphasized during individual drills, and uses highlighters to mark plays already practiced and those still on the docket. Then there is an offensive team meeting focusing on blitzes, and then another meeting devoted to the red-zone package. From late afternoon into the night, the coaches script the Friday practice, make sure the red-zone plan is finished and go over two- and four-minute drills, short-yardage, goal-line, and back-up-to-their-own-end-zone situations. Late Thursday night, Dorsey is back in his office organizing his play-call sheets for the game: which first-and-10 play he prefers in the red zone, go-to calls on second-and-long, the plays in third-and-short, -medium and-long.

 

Friday: The team has a morning walk-through before staying on the field and starting practice at 11 a.m. The aforementioned specialized situations are installed and practiced. Post-practice, there are no meetings with the players. The coaches do meet and "you’re trying to subtract plays (from the game plan), instead of adding plays because there are no more practices to work on it.” Dorsey tries to leave the facility by 6 p.m. Friday and spend time with his wife and two daughters.

 

Saturday: Dorsey starts with another offensive staff meeting in the morning to go over the play-calling script. He continues to stress collaboration. The Bills usually have an 11 a.m. walk-through that Dorsey said centers on “true situational stuff,” like two-minute and short-yardage. After the walk-through, if it’s a home game, the players are off for several hours until reporting to their team hotel. The position coaches use Saturday afternoon to work ahead on the next opponent, and Dorsey will take one last look at how he constructed his game-calling sheets for “final touches on the plan.”

 

https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/ken-dorsey-buffalo-bills-game-preparations-nfl/article_73640ee6-444f-11ee-bb15-5b2c7e37403b.html

[PBF81]

10 hours ago, eball said:

Great article on the front page this morning, detailing how Dorsey spends his week during the season.  Wow.  The amount of preparation, collaboration, and attention to detail is amazing.  I love reading things like this because most fans don’t understand the effort and dedication some guys put in.  Joe 6-pack who works maybe 40 hours a week sits on his couch and critiques the play-calling.  It’s absurd.

 

Not every play works.  Not every game plan is perfect.  Players make mistakes, and other teams make great plays.  But I will never claim that Dorsey “doesn’t have a clue” or hasn’t done his homework.

 

Just throwing this out there, but "hard work" doesn't always mean that someone does their job well.  

 

Every coach in the league "works hard," or the vast majority anyway.  

 

We'll see how he does this season in the role.  

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

5 hours ago, k2mountain said:

My intuition tells me that Rex Ryan didn't work to the level of other coaches.

It was well chronicled.