Why Are We Not Winning Superbowls?

[97bills]

On 9/2/2023 at 1:48 PM, Araiza Curse said:

 

I mean this is a fair take, but don’t other Super Bowl champion QBs also have to play hard teams to get there? So what sets them apart. What seems the most odd is how an unathletic Brady can win 7. What is the secret sauce? It must be that he was just elite in the game film to diagnose defenses. 

I mean, I think that’s why there’s only one goat , and Brady not giving away anything!!! 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Now that there’s no 2 seed bye, the 1 seed is an absolutely massive advantage.  Imo regular season results get completely discounted when talking playoffs but they really shouldn’t be. 
 

2021-2022 the path was clear and we just blew too many regular season games. We beat the bills up for not being able to beat the chiefs when we really have played better than anyone visiting arrowhead. 
 

the josh slander is getting a bit out of control around here…dude has been carrying a bad-somewhat mediocre offensive line for 5 years. 

Edited September 3, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Zerovoltz]

3 hours ago, Billl said:

The Bills still punted 4 times in 9 possessions that game compared to 2 punts in 11 possessions for the Chiefs.  13 seconds was a debacle, but if the Bills had scored on any of those 4 possessions, 13 seconds never happens.

KC had a missed FG and missed XP that game.  .....not that it is important in the crucible of the moment...the circumstances for the Bills were infact, being 13 seconds away from advancing (and in my mind, going on to win the SB) ....but if we are talking about how it might have been....KC's poor special teams play during the early parts of the game made it come down to needing an improbably FG as it were.

[ChrisWatson#21]

Josh Allen has already explained why many times...it's because only ONE team gets to win it and 31 others don't🤷‍♂️

[JDubya76]

Good lord, this garbage pile is still burning. Somebody pee it out.

[90sBills]

7 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

Have you ever been on this board though after a win? There are always people complaining.

I know exactly what you mean. Always thought that line of thinking is nuts. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, ChrisWatson#21 said:

Josh Allen has already explained why many times...it's because only ONE team gets to win it and 31 others don't🤷‍♂️

Get used to that one. You’re going to hear it a lot 

4 hours ago, Billl said:

The Bills still punted 4 times in 9 possessions that game compared to 2 punts in 11 possessions for the Chiefs.  13 seconds was a debacle, but if the Bills had scored on any of those 4 possessions, 13 seconds never happens.

*gasp*  never let facts get in the way of a good narrative 

Edited September 3, 2023 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[Yantha]

Seasons for playoff calibre teams often come down to a handful of plays that fall one way or another.  
 

most of it has to do with preparation, conditioning and execution.

 

BUT

 

some of that is luck

 

some of that is a missed call by a ref

 

………..

 

also: tuck rule, inflate gate, spying, laces out.

 

 

[GoBills808]

6 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Get used to that one. You’re going to hear it a lot 

*gasp*  never let facts get in the way of a good narrative 

Tha narrative that if one team has scored more, the game wouldn't have been tied at the end? Groundbreaking analysis 

[PatsFanNH]

3 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Burroes?! Why do people have such a hard time writing Burrow? Not only do they want to change it to Burrows for no apparent reason, but we are now misspelling the misspelling?!

Lol I misspelled it because the e is right next to the w and I have fat fingers lol.. and Burrow just sounds wrong in the sentence. 

[Billl]

30 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Tha narrative that if one team has scored more, the game wouldn't have been tied at the end? Groundbreaking analysis 

I believe the narrative is that 13 seconds spoiled a perfect offensive performance.  The fact that they punted on 44% of their possessions puts the lie to that narrative.  I also believe you’re smart enough to have known that but lack the ability not to respond with some non-sequitur while simultaneously insulting the poster who had the audacity to make a truthful statement that hurt your feelings.

[34-78-83]

19 hours ago, Success said:

 

I'd be curious about the "film" comment, if Josh ever made it.  I saw it mentioned here & elsewhere - but have a hard time believing I would have missed that if he said it.  The media would have run w/ that for a bit, imo.

 

JA's improvement over the course of his young NFL career has been astounding to me - he's such a different QB today than he was his 1st couple of years.  That's work. That's not just him slumming it & relying on his skills, which he has always had.

 

I  think Whitlock was trying to get some attention - and it worked.  But I don't think his commentary has much to do w/ reality.  Especially the comment that JA doesn't have that "dawg" in him. Cripes.

 

your curiosity is well founded, @Success, and @Zerovoltz, your assumption about his film watching comment is wrong (and thats fine, but FYI). For the dumb dumbs (such as KDiggz) that have heard the comment and still think there's an issue, none of us can help you fools. But the context of the comment was about watching film, specifically of a team like the Jets. What he was saying essentially was that he doesn't want to get TOO caught up in relying on film tendencies of a team (ie. when we come out in a wide spread with these guys on the field and run this play, the Jets are always going to react a certain way...). So he likes to blend knowing what they do as a reaction on film with what he see's ON the field with his eyes. Because teams will bait you with that sh*t. Why this seems to be so difficult for some people to grasp is beyond me.

Edited September 4, 2023 by 34-78-83

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

Tha narrative that if one team has scored more, the game wouldn't have been tied at the end? Groundbreaking analysis 

Why would a narrative also be the conclusion of a unique analysis? 
 

need to ask mods about a sub forum with a minimum iq threshold. Seems like everyone would win. 

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Why would a narrative also be the conclusion of a unique analysis? 
 

need to ask mods about a sub forum with a minimum iq threshold. Seems like everyone would win. 

Yes, you and the guy you quoted could hang out there in bewilderment not realizing the perfect offensive game was the Patriots the week prior 😂😂😂

[iinii]

Because we aren’t playing in them 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

13 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Yes, you and the guy you quoted could hang out there in bewilderment not realizing the perfect offensive game was the Patriots the week prior 😂😂😂

Exactly… a forum to filter ^^^ to the appropriate cheerleaders etc. 

[Augie]

17 minutes ago, iinii said:

Because we aren’t playing in them 

 

I think the judges are going to have to give you that one. 

[Billl]

52 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Yes, you and the guy you quoted could hang out there in bewilderment not realizing the perfect offensive game was the Patriots the week prior 😂😂😂

McDermott and Frazier screwed the Bills out of a trophy with 13 seconds against the Patriots?  

On 9/2/2023 at 1:40 PM, mrags said:

His game didn’t seem to have any holes in it until McDermott and Frazier screwed him and Bills fans out of a Lombardi Trophy with .13 seconds. Just sayin 

 

[HappyDays]

6 hours ago, Billl said:

The Bills still punted 4 times in 9 possessions that game compared to 2 punts in 11 possessions for the Chiefs.  13 seconds was a debacle, but if the Bills had scored on any of those 4 possessions, 13 seconds never happens.

 

So in your opinion Josh Allen did not play well enough to win that game?

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

On 9/2/2023 at 2:17 PM, Araiza Curse said:

I want to spin this off from the Josh is lazy thread, and really debate this at face value. Let’s look at other QBs and their “work ethic” “talent abilities” and compare them to get a better idea of why. Let’s start with Tom Brady. 

 

Everyone here knows that Tom Brady is one of the least athletic QBs and yet he always had solid statistics and always knew where to place the ball. 

 

Everyone here knows that Josh Allen is one of the most athletic QBs. 

 

Josh has admitted he isn’t big into game film. But the more you dig into what it takes to be great, the more concerning that seems to be. How is it that Tom Brady can win so many super bowls with lower tier athleticism and arm strength and yet Josh Allen with his superior skill set has been unable to win even 1 Super Bowl? 

 

Tom Brady never really had a true #1 WR for an extended period of time outside of Moss, and yet he still always managed to keep the chains moving and put up points enough to win games. 

Josh Allen has had a true #1 WR for an extended period of time Diggs, and yet still unable to get over the hump. 

 

So I think questions around Allen’s “laziness” is warranted. Why should an elite talented QB be struggling more than a non elite talented QB?  

 

The only real difference is football IQ and studying the game to the point were you can attack and become a master despite not having elite traits. 

 

 

Maybe I’m wrong in this thinking, and others can chime in. But things do seem to not add up. 

 

I mean where else can you get hot takes like these? I love this place!!!