Chandler#81 Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 Because we’re Buffalo. Armpit of the East. Worst weather in the continental U.S. Canada doesn’t want us. The US won’t acknowledge us. Nothing good ever happens here. It’s not in the cards. There’s no divine intervention. We’re forlorn. We’ll never win a major sport championship. We’re not worthy. I wish it weren’t true, but there’s zero evidence to claim otherwise. 🤷♂️it’s simply the way it is. 3 1 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 Brady was smarter and more naturally intuitive than any qb in history. Mahomes has equal athleticism of Allen but Reid is worlds better than McDermott. Josh is in a tough place. He's surrounded with enough talent to easily go to or even win a SB. But there are other factors involved including luck that must hit. Should we have won a SB in these last 3 years? Absolutely, but as crazy good as JA is, you still need a little more. Ask Dan Marino. 1 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 Loaded question but I think its a combination of having stiff competition in our conference (Chiefs Bengals inparticular) and a lack of high end difference makers who can come through in big situations during the playoffs 1 Quote
QLBillsFan Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Araiza Curse said: Why, it’s an honest discussion. Seriously, Brady wasn’t athletic at all compared to Josh, and yet he still managed to win the big games. Why? Was it because he put in more time on the field to learn the ins and outs? It’s an inaccurate premise. Josh has said logically that film study has value but it can have diminishing efficiency. He works on his craft off season with Jordan Palmer. This narrative is a take off from zero effort MM trying to piss on Josh because Diggs is a diva. Josh has improved over his career at every level via hard work. He grew up on a farm working hard every day. Stop the nonsense. He outsmarts defenders as well as beating them with talent!!! Edited September 3, 2023 by QLBillsFan 1 Quote
WhoTom Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 A while back, some "genius" did a mathematical analysis using some equations that he conjured up. Several months prior, Shaw66 did a very good qualitative analysis of what it takes to win a SB. I suggest you read Shaw's. 2 Quote
cle23 Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 5 hours ago, HaldimandBills said: Josh Allen goes to bed dreaming about Brady's oline during those Patriot Superbowl years. Josh Allen goes to bed dreaming about having those Patriot run games that weren't blown up 5 yards in the backfield and a successful run is gaining 1 yard. Our starting RB last year is a back up this year on a bottom three offensive roster... Josh Allen goes to sleep dreaming of having a 3rd receiver better than Isiah Mckenzie. A guy who couldn't even make the Colts roster. Another bottom 3 roster for offensive talent. Josh Allen goes to sleep dreaming of having better redzone threats than no separation off the line Gabe Davis, no recievers who can block to help the run game, Isiah Mckenzie as your third target being 5 foot 7 with no ability to beat a zone defense. Dawson Knox being forced to help Spencer Brown because Brown is consistently beat by undrafted rookies. Let's blame Josh Allen though. Tell me you can't analyze football, without telling me you can't analyze football. Brady twice took undrafted WRs, one a converted QB from Kent State, and helped turn them into some of the best slot receivers in the NFL. QBs have to help elevate their offense as well. Allen is elite, but saying that he had no help isn't true. He has to help elevate guys too. 2 Quote
Bubba Gump Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 Easy answer. One word, well, actually two. Because Buffalo. Quote
HaldimandBills Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, cle23 said: Brady twice took undrafted WRs, one a converted QB from Kent State, and helped turn them into some of the best slot receivers in the NFL. QBs have to help elevate their offense as well. Allen is elite, but saying that he had no help isn't true. He has to help elevate guys too. Do pray tell who has a worse supporting cast than Allen out of Mahomes, Burrow, Hurts, Herbert, Dak, Tua, heck we can keep going. Allen has had to do far too much and its starting to catch up. How people cannot see this is beyond me? Brady had a far superior run game and offensive line, when compared to Josh Allen. Not to mention the Patriots defense knew how to stop opposing offenses in the playoffs. Meanwhile our defense folds like a cheap tent in the playoffs as we watch the Bengals and Chiefs inferior defenses find another 3 gears in the playoffs. It's nauseating how much this freaking team relies on Allen. I've see the Bengals, Patriots, and Chiefs win multiple playoff games when Burrow, Brady, and Mahomes are not on their A game. Bills have won playoff win you can credit the defense for. The Ravens game. That's it. Edited September 3, 2023 by HaldimandBills 1 1 Quote
BuffaninSarasota Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, cle23 said: Brady twice took undrafted WRs, one a converted QB from Kent State, and helped turn them into some of the best slot receivers in the NFL. QBs have to help elevate their offense as well. Allen is elite, but saying that he had no help isn't true. He has to help elevate guys too. Not sure carrying the team isn’t a form of elevating the guys around him. His talent allows their skills to shine. He finds anyone, anytime, anywhere on the field. Brady did it for a very long time. Allen is just getting started . Edited September 3, 2023 by BuffaninSarasota Add 1 Quote
John from Riverside Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 Because we have not been lucky Let’s face it takes a certain amount of luck every year in order to win a Super Bowl. By the time you get to that game you can be. Beat to ***** with injuries Almost have one of your players die on the field Have one of the worst winter storms where your players can’t even get to the stadium without help by the way this team prior to this year was totally built only for warm weather. Thankfully Brandon brought in some heavy hitters so that we can run the ball. In the 13 seconds game we were just damn on the butt. The chances of them doing anything in that game were so low and they just made it happen. You have to give credit to them. Yes we should’ve knuckleball that ball at the end of the game so that the time would run out, it was a mistake by the coaches but the truth of the matter is we should never have given up a 13 seconds lead even if they called the play the way it was cold it was just luck . Eventually, the luck will turn our way. 1 Quote
cwater10 Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, cle23 said: He has to help elevate guys too. How does Cole Beasley's career arc look today if not for Josh Allen? 1 1 Quote
PatsFanNH Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 1 minute ago, cwater10 said: How does Cole Beasley's career arc look today if not for Josh Allen? Well his other option was to go to NE and play with Brady… So his career arc would been very similar to what it was. Quote
QLBillsFan Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Well his other option was to go to NE and play with Brady… So his career arc would been very similar to what it was. 15 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Well his other option was to go to NE and play with Brady… So his career arc would been very similar to what it was. Actually he would have played one year with Brady in 2019. They lost in the first round of the playoffs. He would have not had his best 3 years in a row. Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 Likely because only 1 team wins every year! 1 Quote
brianthomas Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 to me its because we don't take whats given to us. The Patriots used to take advantage in that way. With our offensive philosophy, we're at our best when Josh completes high percentage throws, executes our offense & gets 1st downs. We dont need to throw 40 yards down field all the time. If we just take what defenses give us, if we just execute within ourselves, we should win most games. It feels like the thing that is stopping us is ourselves. The lack of focus, penalties, coaching & execution... its us its us. but you guys already know.. I hope that Cinci game was just a pariah, an outlier. As BILLS fans we've been thru a lot. We've seen how bad things can get. This team is so close. We have so much talent across the roster. Mano a mano we play smart & tough we win. This team needs to look within & at one another & find some character. Who do you want to be? Do you want to be losers or do you want to be the Super Bowl winning BUFFALO BILLS? They should be sick of being losers now. They were new to it when they got here but they should feel it now. Lets see who they are come Monday Night! 1 Quote
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 2 hours ago, GerstAusGosheim said: Because Sean is not HIM. He overruled the squibb kick Heath Farwell called. Then, took over the defense from Leslie in the final :13 seconds and completely blew it. That was our best chance in 30 years. It was over ruled? Wasn’t the story the call wasn’t properly communicated? 14 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Likely because only 1 team wins every year! As we close in on 60 of these things you’d think they could’ve gotten one by now. Quote
cle23 Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 49 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said: Not sure carrying the team isn’t a form of elevating the guys around him. His talent allows their skills to shine. He finds anyone, anytime, anywhere on the field. Brady did it for a very long time. Allen is just getting started . My point being, people keep blaming the lack of talent around Allen as the reason, when every team loses players, or has missed draft picks, etc. Brady had new receivers every couple years. Deon Branch, Edelman, Welker, David Givens, David Patton, Chris Hogan, Brandon LaFell. Only Moss and Gronk would remotely be considered elite. I'm not trying to put down Allen. He's top 5, probably top 3 in the NFL right now. He's immensely talented. But all QBs have new hurdles every year. 1 Quote
Freddie's Dead Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 Marcia was the GCOAT. Greatest Cheater of All Time. That's why. Always knew where to throw the ball because the voice in the ear said who was open. Fumbled multiple standard deviations less than any team EVER in the NFL due to under- inflated footballs. Gifted two Super Bowls by Atlanta and Seattle. So ***** off about the greatness of Brady. A stain on the game that's finally been removed. 1 1 1 1 1 Quote
BuffaninSarasota Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, cle23 said: My point being, people keep blaming the lack of talent around Allen as the reason, when every team loses players, or has missed draft picks, etc. Brady had new receivers every couple years. Deon Branch, Edelman, Welker, David Givens, David Patton, Chris Hogan, Brandon LaFell. Only Moss and Gronk would remotely be considered elite. I'm not trying to put down Allen. He's top 5, probably top 3 in the NFL right now. He's immensely talented. But all QBs have new hurdles every year. So are you suggesting the burden is on Allen to elevate those around him because of a lack of talent? Quote
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