Ranking the divisions

[NeverOutNick]

On 9/2/2023 at 10:41 AM, Dan in Owego said:

 AFC North

AFC East

AFC West

NFC East

AFC South 

NFC West

NFC North

NFC South

 

AFC is going to be a blood bath this year, really need to go 5-1 and take it.

By that I mean in division 

Your top 4 are for sure the order and the bottom 4 are debatable but honestly I’d probably have them about the same with the nfc west above the afc south only because I could legitimately see SF, SEA and LAR making the playoffs and the cardinals pulling the bottom down on that division as probably the worst team in football

[ganesh]

34 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

So was Allen his first year.  10 TD 12 INT and 8 fumbles. 

And it is Pickett not Pinkett. Pickett may yet get better only time will tell.

Allen Pinkett retired along time ago and was a RB. Funny if you google him, the first 3 pics of him are him running against the Bills. 

Pickett has two good WR in Pickens and Johnson along with a very reliable TE in Friermuth.  If their OL holds up,  Pickett could make a transition to a good QB in year 2.  

Steelers have a good defense and have added more in the draft.  However, I am not sure if they have the necessary firepower to overpower the Bengals who are a very balanced team with a great QB

31 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Josh Rosen had 11/14 and 10....

 

Pickett is not Allen.  

 

 

Pickett doesn't need to be Allen and I think the Steelers have assembled a good offense around Pickett. 

[Mr. WEO]

6 hours ago, ganesh said:

Pickett has two good WR in Pickens and Johnson along with a very reliable TE in Friermuth.  If their OL holds up,  Pickett could make a transition to a good QB in year 2.  

Steelers have a good defense and have added more in the draft.  However, I am not sure if they have the necessary firepower to overpower the Bengals who are a very balanced team with a great QB

Pickett doesn't need to be Allen and I think the Steelers have assembled a good offense around Pickett. 

 

 

with Pickens, Johnson and Friermuth, he would have to be better than Josh Allen to make a playoff run.

 

He's not.

[ganesh]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

with Pickens, Johnson and Friermuth, he would have to be better than Josh Allen to make a playoff run.

 

He's not.

Uhhh

[iinii]

11 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

1. AFC East

2. AFC North

3. AFC West

4. NFC East

5. NFC North

6. NFC West

7. AFC South

8. NFC South

 

I am predicting whoever wins the NFC South will have a losing record. 

 

Noted!

[iinii]

9 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

No way AFCN over AFCE.

 

 

Come on.   IF Pinkett...and IF Watson...and IF Jackson.

 

Pinkett is a low voltage turnover machine (7 passing TD in 12 games, 9 INTs, 4 fumbles).  

 

Watson has played 6 (bad) games since 2020.   He's had one above average season in his career.  Most overrated QB in the NFL right now.

 

Jackson has played 24 games in the last 2 years and chose to watch his team lose form the sidelines in the playoffs.  Likely the same this year.

 

Not so many "ifs" in the AFCE.

 

Really? 
Seems like an iffy situation there too. 
If Tua’s brain can stay unscrambled. 
If Mac Jones has made serious strides. 
If a 40 y/o Rodgers can stay clean behind that line. 
 

These divisions are going to cannibalize themselves to a large degree. The big factor for me is the AFCN plays the NFCW and AFCS, which looks softer than the AFCE’s slate of NFCE and AFCW

[Mr. WEO]

11 hours ago, iinii said:

Really? 
Seems like an iffy situation there too. 
If Tua’s brain can stay unscrambled. 
If Mac Jones has made serious strides. 
If a 40 y/o Rodgers can stay clean behind that line. 
 

These divisions are going to cannibalize themselves to a large degree. The big factor for me is the AFCN plays the NFCW and AFCS, which looks softer than the AFCE’s slate of NFCE and AFCW

 

NE isn't in the picture.

 

Everyone on the planet would put up Allen, Tua and Rodgers against Mahomes Watson and Pickett.

 

come on...

[SoTier]

21 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Josh Rosen had 11/14 and 10....

 

Pickett is not Allen.  

 

 

 

Pickett started poorly as a rookie but showed considerable progress late in the season.  He has looked good in his limited play in preseason (and not just against the Bills).   He doesn't have to be Josh Allen to be a good/excellent NFL QB for Mike Tomlin's Steelers.

 

12 hours ago, iinii said:

Really? 
Seems like an iffy situation there too. 
If Tua’s brain can stay unscrambled. 
If Mac Jones has made serious strides. 
If a 40 y/o Rodgers can stay clean behind that line. 
 

These divisions are going to cannibalize themselves to a large degree. The big factor for me is the AFCN plays the NFCW and AFCS, which looks softer than the AFCE’s slate of NFCE and AFCW

 

This is my take as well, especially the AFCN.  I think that the Ravens and Steelers are closer to the Bengals than the Jets and Fins are to the Bills, particularly because of Harbaugh and Tomlin.  If Watson resurrects his early form, Cleveland can become a formidable force in the league, capable of beating any team because their D is damn good.   NE doesn't have nearly the talent that the Brown have.

 

42 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

NE isn't in the picture.

 

Everyone on the planet would put up Allen, Tua and Rodgers against Mahomes Watson and Pickett.

 

come on...

 

The Patriots are always "in the picture" with Belichick as HC, especially in divisional games. 

 

 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

22 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Josh Rosen had 11/14 and 10....

 

Pickett is not Allen.  

 

 

Lol. You don't know that and neither do I. Half this board was ready to move on from Allen after season 1. 

All I hope is he beats the Browns and the Browns miss the playoffs. The delusion on Cleveland radio is epic. I cant wait for Watson to suck and this town I work in melts down.

21 hours ago, ganesh said:

Pickett has two good WR in Pickens and Johnson along with a very reliable TE in Friermuth.  If their OL holds up,  Pickett could make a transition to a good QB in year 2.  

Steelers have a good defense and have added more in the draft.  However, I am not sure if they have the necessary firepower to overpower the Bengals who are a very balanced team with a great QB

Pickett doesn't need to be Allen and I think the Steelers have assembled a good offense around Pickett. 

I agree they will battle Ravens for second place at best in taht division.  I routinely underestimate the Ravens, but they look like an organization taht needs sweeping change. 

Just hope Browns finish last.

[Mr. WEO]

57 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

Pickett started poorly as a rookie but showed considerable progress late in the season.  He has looked good in his limited play in preseason (and not just against the Bills).   He doesn't have to be Josh Allen to be a good/excellent NFL QB for Mike Tomlin's Steelers.

 

 

This is my take as well, especially the AFCN.  I think that the Ravens and Steelers are closer to the Bengals than the Jets and Fins are to the Bills, particularly because of Harbaugh and Tomlin.  If Watson resurrects his early form, Cleveland can become a formidable force in the league, capable of beating any team because their D is damn good.   NE doesn't have nearly the talent that the Brown have.

 

 

The Patriots are always "in the picture" with Belichick as HC, especially in divisional games. 

 

 

 

 

As the season went on,. Pickett didn't get much better.  Check out his stats.  He was all over the place. And that Steelers O isn't exactly loaded. It's decent.

 

 

55 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Lol. You don't know that and neither do I. Half this board was ready to move on from Allen after season 1. 

All I hope is he beats the Browns and the Browns miss the playoffs. The delusion on Cleveland radio is epic. I cant wait for Watson to suck and this town I work in melts down.

I agree they will battle Ravens for second place at best in taht division.  I routinely underestimate the Ravens, but they look like an organization taht needs sweeping change. 

Just hope Browns finish last.

 

Citing "half the board" isn't the best argument.

 

My point was that it is more likely that Pickett turns out like Rosen than Allen.