John from Riverside Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 On 9/1/2023 at 11:50 PM, Buffalo716 said: 4 spares?!? 😆 Dalton did it Quote
That's No Moon Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 13 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: Not to mention the rest of society. On the other hand you never know what might grow when a seed germinates. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 11 hours ago, pennstate10 said: Heres some help from google. rhet·o·ric /ˈredərik/ noun the art of effective or persuasive speaking or writing, especially the use of figures of speech and other compositional techniques. "he is using a common figure of rhetoric, hyperbole" Similar: oratory eloquence power of speech command of language expression way with words delivery diction language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect on its audience, but often regarded as lacking in sincerity or meaningful content. "all we have from the Opposition is empty rhetoric" we were discussing the practice of fetal transfusion, none of which falls under "empty rhetoric", "lacking sincerity or meaningful content", "oratory", "hyperbole", "compositional techniques" or "figures of speech". Just two guys having a discussion amongst themselves. Beck is a smart guy who knows his stuff--a broad range of topics. Google search may not be for you. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 10 hours ago, Beck Water said: As a general rule of thumb, my threshold for being willing to share small amounts of my blood via sterile needles and good phlebotomy technique is pretty low. So yeah, I'll go there: "any dude who wouldn’t offer 30cc of blood to his unborn child is not an upstanding citizen" is a statement I can agree with. As written, it doesn't strike me as particularly ethically or morally challenging Now you can delve into back-story and ask "was that really the only ask or did she want a couple of million $$ and a kidney to go with it?" "did she really want his blood to conduct satanic rituals involving Jason Whitlock?" "Was she planning to re-create the formula for Colonial Era barn paint but her Vegan principles didn't allow her to sacrifice an animal?" or whatever But as written, yeah. You? (in case anyone else is reading and wants to know, 30 cc (or ml) is approximately 2 tablespoons, or less than 1/10 of a pint) I think most mothers of some random athlete's fetus (she seems to collect them) who needed his cooperation for a medical urgency and a blood sample would not go right to social media to solicit others to injure the guy (for money) if he allegedly has refused to offer said sample. Especially when her fetal medicine specialist no doubt has informed her that they don't really need only his blood. What she is saying is certainly possibly true, but this is how we learn of it---with a (illegal?) plea for someone in his profession to take him out? Is that not ethically or morally challenging to you? Quote
Beck Water Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I think most mothers of some random athlete's fetus (she seems to collect them) who needed his cooperation for a medical urgency and a blood sample would not go right to social media to solicit others to injure the guy (for money) if he allegedly has refused to offer said sample. Especially when her fetal medicine specialist no doubt has informed her that they don't really need only his blood. What she is saying is certainly possibly true, but this is how we learn of it---with a (illegal?) plea for someone in his profession to take him out? Is that not ethically or morally challenging to you? Isn't that "Whataboutism" WEO? We've been talking about Apple here. He can be "not an upstanding citizen" for not being willing to gift 2T of blood to his unborn child without any reference to the morals and ethics of his ex-girlfriend, which could be horrid. You can take those on in a separate discussion if you wish, but her being scummy doesn't make him less so. (I don't think she went "right to social media" by the way, the child has evidently been born (at 25 weeks) and had several medical procedures.)\\ And on that note, I think I'm outta here. Edited September 4, 2023 by Beck Water Quote
Behindenemylines Posted September 5, 2023 Posted September 5, 2023 11 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: I think most mothers of some random athlete's fetus (she seems to collect them) who needed his cooperation for a medical urgency and a blood sample would not go right to social media to solicit others to injure the guy (for money) if he allegedly has refused to offer said sample. Especially when her fetal medicine specialist no doubt has informed her that they don't really need only his blood. What she is saying is certainly possibly true, but this is how we learn of it---with a (illegal?) plea for someone in his profession to take him out? Is that not ethically or morally challenging to you? Your assumption here includes intelligence, integrity, and morals which is why it won’t ever make sense. We are after ll taking about trash at the most fundamental level. Quote
T master Posted September 5, 2023 Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) This kind of stuff doesn't happen from such fine upstanding individuals in the NFL does it ? OMG what has the league come to ??? I'll see your Eli Apple & raise you a Travis Henry ... Edited September 5, 2023 by T master Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 5, 2023 Posted September 5, 2023 Dude looks like a tall version of beetlejuice. Thank God for the NFL paycheck. 11 minutes ago, T master said: This kind of stuff doesn't happen from such fine upstanding individuals in the NFL does it ? OMG what has the league come to ??? I'll see your Eli Apple & raise you a Travis Henry ... Yeah, regular people don’t ever have these situations go on. 1 Quote
T master Posted September 5, 2023 Posted September 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Dude looks like a tall version of beetlejuice. Thank God for the NFL paycheck. Yeah, regular people don’t ever have these situations go on. That's not what i was alluding too . Quote
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