Beck Water Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: If Allen is continuing to work with Palmer, then I am happy to stand corrected. I didn’t think that he had done that because: - I hand not heard of him doing so this or last off-season like I had in previous years. - Palmer took a new job with the XFL before last off season so he left EXOS, which is where he trained Allen. - When asked what he planned to do regarding training this off-season Allen did not say anything about Palmer, only that he was going to rest his body. I thought Allen, Darnold, Kyle Allen, Burrow etc always worked with Palmer through his company, QB Summit. Never heard of "Exos". Watch the video for yourself if you like. Palmer talks a bit about how he works year-round now, and how XFL work fits in with the work he was already doing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 22 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I thought Allen, Darnold, Kyle Allen, Burrow etc always worked with Palmer through his company, QB Summit. Never heard of "Exos". Watch the video for yourself if you like. Palmer talks a bit about how he works year-round now, and how XFL work fits in with the work he was already doing. I looked it up. You are correct. Palmer worked at EXOS as a QB coach, but left to start up QB Summit. I got crossed up remembering he left EXOS when took the XFL Director of QB Development job and thought he was out of the private QB development business. My bad on this one. I should’ve checked my memory before posting. Thanks for the correction. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 I guess this is what they mean by Josh being lazy? Doing all these commercials, golf, social events. Rather than dedicating more time to getting better on the field? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Araiza Curse said: I guess this is what they mean by Josh being lazy? Doing all these commercials, golf, social events. Rather than dedicating more time to getting better on the field? Who is "they" and where has it been said that Josh is "lazy"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillzFreak Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Araiza Curse said: I guess this is what they mean by Josh being lazy? Doing all these commercials, golf, social events. Rather than dedicating more time to getting better on the field? Who is "they"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: Who is "they" and where has it been said that Josh is "lazy"? 1 minute ago, BillzFreak said: Who is "they"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 46 minutes ago, Araiza Curse said: I guess this is what they mean by Josh being lazy? Doing all these commercials, golf, social events. Rather than dedicating more time to getting better on the field? You mean like Mahomes who is in about a million commercials? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Just now, CincyBillsFan said: You mean like Mahomes who is in about a million commercials? But he wins Super Bowls so I think most people give him a pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Araiza Curse said: But he wins Super Bowls so I think most people give him a pass. Or maybe the commercials are not a distraction but a nice way for these QB's to rebound after very stressful seasons. In fact the commercials are part of the job for elite QB's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 1, 2023 Author Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: Or maybe the commercials are not a distraction but a nice way for these QB's to rebound after very stressful seasons. In fact the commercials are part of the job for elite QB's. Josh in that QB room podcast basically said for his commercials he's there for a couple hours and then he's done, so I'm really not sure how much of a distraction they could be for him. Edited September 1, 2023 by Warcodered 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Josh in that QB room podcast basically said for his commercials he's there for a couple hours and then he's done, so I'm really not sure how much of a distraction they could be for him. And Mahomes, who is like a TV star because he's in so many commercials is proof positive that the modern elite NFL QB can make commercials and excel at the game of football. These attacks on Allen by some posters are really weird. It seems like every season there is a new round of dark whispers suggesting something fundamentally wrong with Allen: * Remember how they complained Allen wasn't accurate? And then when he improved his accuracy they complained he couldn't throw the deep ball? * And when he became the best deep ball thrower in the NFL they whispered that Allen wouldn't take the easy gimme throws and would only go after the lower probability deep shots. I mean on every play multiple Bills players were wide open for huge gains but Allen just ignored them! * Then when Allen was killing teams with his legs they whispered that he would get hurt all the time. Now, after 4 straight seasons (KNOCK ON WOOD) of not missing a game they hint darkly of Allen having a truncated career because of his running. * Remember how they whispered that Allen couldn't play in front of big crowds which is why he id so well in 2020. Then in 2021 & 2022 he had some of his greatest games in prime time pressure cooker environments in front of huge hostile crowds? * Then they hinted that Allen couldn't play great in playoff games. And then he went out and had some of the best playoff games of any QB in recent NFL history. * And now they're whispering that Allen is lazy and maybe dumb and he doesn't study film and he lets his body go in the off season. He gets drunk and he makes to many commercials. Judas Priest when this is shown to be complete BS like all the other things what will they whisper then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Araiza Curse said: I guess Whitlock is fat enough to be a they 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Finally got a chance to watch it...they did a great job with this....I know I've already said this before on here but sometimes it still feels surreal this is our guy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Son Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Which part has the binge drinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Diggs didn’t say a good thing about Allen in the video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 3 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said: And Mahomes, who is like a TV star because he's in so many commercials is proof positive that the modern elite NFL QB can make commercials and excel at the game of football. These attacks on Allen by some posters are really weird. It seems like every season there is a new round of dark whispers suggesting something fundamentally wrong with Allen: * Remember how they complained Allen wasn't accurate? And then when he improved his accuracy they complained he couldn't throw the deep ball? * And when he became the best deep ball thrower in the NFL they whispered that Allen wouldn't take the easy gimme throws and would only go after the lower probability deep shots. I mean on every play multiple Bills players were wide open for huge gains but Allen just ignored them! * Then when Allen was killing teams with his legs they whispered that he would get hurt all the time. Now, after 4 straight seasons (KNOCK ON WOOD) of not missing a game they hint darkly of Allen having a truncated career because of his running. * Remember how they whispered that Allen couldn't play in front of big crowds which is why he id so well in 2020. Then in 2021 & 2022 he had some of his greatest games in prime time pressure cooker environments in front of huge hostile crowds? * Then they hinted that Allen couldn't play great in playoff games. And then he went out and had some of the best playoff games of any QB in recent NFL history. * And now they're whispering that Allen is lazy and maybe dumb and he doesn't study film and he lets his body go in the off season. He gets drunk and he makes to many commercials. Judas Priest when this is shown to be complete BS like all the other things what will they whisper then? It's so weird - complaints for years and years and years because the Bills didn't have guys getting national commercials, the team deserves more recognition, blah blah blah. It's not happening and now people say that it clearly is taking away from Josh getting better. Because you know, having 6 months off doesn't leave enough time for these guys to do things not football related 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 5 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Josh clearly had a problem cuz he left He's a grown man and he could do whatever he wants... And there was obviously trouble in paradise They didn't break up out of the blue they were probably on the fritz for a while and that will absolutely affect your mindset and play Also your focus. Which is pretty important to some people. 3 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said: Or maybe the commercials are not a distraction but a nice way for these QB's to rebound after very stressful seasons. In fact the commercials are part of the job for elite QB's. Who cares about commercials? That’s a minimal amount of time and typically an off-season thing. Bigger issues are perpetually taking care of the body, putting in the study, and grinding during the season. 8 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: It's so weird - complaints for years and years and years because the Bills didn't have guys getting national commercials, the team deserves more recognition, blah blah blah. It's not happening and now people say that it clearly is taking away from Josh getting better. Because you know, having 6 months off doesn't leave enough time for these guys to do things not football related Agreed commercials have nothing to do with any of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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