BF_in_Indiana Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 The 2005 WSOP starts today with the employees event. The real events start tomorrow with the 1,500 buy in event kicking things off. For those wondering, here is the ESPN broadcast schedule for the 2005 events. ESPN 2005 World Series of Poker Coverage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted June 3, 2005 Share Posted June 3, 2005 Are they really going to wait 4 months to air the main event after it happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanone Posted June 3, 2005 Share Posted June 3, 2005 I can't wait for the poker fad to go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwovince Posted June 3, 2005 Share Posted June 3, 2005 It wont go away. Whats the matter upset you dont have the skill to play? If you dont like it dont watch it and Dont post in a thread ABOUT IT! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted June 3, 2005 Author Share Posted June 3, 2005 I can't wait for the poker fad to go away. 350113[/snapback] So you can watch NHL Hockey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted June 4, 2005 Author Share Posted June 4, 2005 2005 World Series of Poker Rio All-Suite Hotel & Casino Event #2: $1,500 No-Limit Hold 'Em Buy-In: $1,500 Entries: 2305 Prize Pool: $3,180,900 Players Remaining: 111 Chip Count Table-Seat Name Hometown Chip Count 128-6 Daniel Monroe Dublin, Ohio $130,700 138-6 Mike Matusow Las Vegas, NV $108,300 115-8 Andrew Kelsall Lutz, FL $107,900 136-2 Scott Fischman Las Vegas, NV $82,100 128-3 Jim Plateroi Westlake Village, CA $77,200 116-4 Mark Seif Incline Village, NV $73,100 139-10 Sam Von Duhn Wooddale, IL $71,100 126-3 Dave Freed Las Vegas, NV $67,600 137-2 Rob Amereno Tucson, AZ $61,300 128-10 Ky Lai Vu Westminster, CA $59,600 138-9 Can Kim Hua Rosemead, CA $55,700 138-5 Josiah Trager Brooklyn, NY $54,900 116-8 Dave "Devilfish" Ulliott $54,000 137- Marcello DelGrosso Toronto, Canada $53,400 138-1 John Evans Olathe, KS $50,800 127-9 Terry Weimer Fort Wayne, IN $50,500 139-8 Steven Shkolnik Woodland Hills, CA $49,300 114-9 David Tran Elmonte, CA $48,800 126-10 Loi Phan Seattle, WA $47,300 116-7 Jay Smith Castaic, CA $46,600 117-1 Ronnie Yambra Houston, TX $46,400 114-3 Greg Raymer Stonington, CT $44,600 126-1 Lance Newton Statesboro, GA $44,000 136-8 Michael Myers Nashville, TN $44,000 139-4 Gavin Writer Castle Rock, CO $43,800 127-7 Alex Armany Beverly Hills, CA $43,200 117-8 Ralph Schwartz New York, NY $42,600 117-4 Diego Cordovez Palo Alto, CA $41,900 117-6 Allen Cunnigham Marina del Rey, CA $41,000 114-10 Travis Green Iruine, CA $40,600 116-10 Jeff Rine Las Vegas, NV $39,800 115-6 Jeff Calkins New York, NY $39,400 128-9 Liz Lieu Los Angeles, CA $39,400 138-10 Danny Smith Folsom, CA $38,500 128-4 Richard Boutwell Duluth, GA $38,300 137-8 Allen Goldstein Houston, TX $38,100 115-5 Jason Steinhorn Cupertino, CA $37,000 117-2 Minh Ly $35,000 125-7 Burt Boutin $34,700 136-3 Eric Taylor Houston, TX $34,000 139-2 Jeremy Brom San Diego, CA $33,500 128-1 Keith Clarke Carlsbad, CA $32,000 127-4 Thomas Savitsky Randolph, NJ $31,800 125-9 Emad Alabsi Cleveland, OH $31,400 137-7 Rory Monahan Murphysboro, IL $30,100 114-8 An Tran Las Vegas, NV $30,000 114-7 Darren Woolard Las Vegas, NV $29,600 126-6 Pat Moore Vancouver, WA $29,400 125-3 Tom Lee Denver, CO $29,200 127-5 Jeremy Stein Boulder, CO $28,700 136-6 Saso Perduloski Detroit, MI $28,400 125-6 Cyndy Violette $27,900 126-8 Matthew Fletcher London, England $26,600 126-4 David Levi Las Vegas, NV $26,400 117-3 Steve Greenberg Andover, NJ $26,300 128-5 Andy Reanrungroch Las Vegas, NV $26,200 115-10 Charles Huff Geneva, OH $24,900 127-1 Boris Shate Los Angeles, CA $24,800 115-1 Kevin Keller San Diego, CA $24,200 136-9 David Tuchman $24,000 139-3 Thomas Fougeron $23,400 115-4 Marc Lome Minneapolis, MN $22,800 138-3 Kerry Small Ventnor, NJ $22,000 114-5 Shreeniwas Kelkar Kirkland, WA $21,900 127-6 Chris Sapirman Hollywood, FL $20,400 137-6 Joe Pelton Newport Beach, CA $19,800 128-2 Kenny Robbins Las Vegas, NV $19,700 136-5 Eric Sarkission Tarzana, CA $19,400 - Gregg Smallowitz Plainview, NY $19,200 115-7 Mark Scott Cincinnati, OH $18,900 137-4 Melvin Swancy Lake Ellsinore, CA $18,600 126-2 Ben Davenport San Francisco, CA $18,100 138-4 Jim Pursifull Dayton, OH $17,900 117-5 Randy Edmonson Columbus, MS $16,400 127-10 Kenneth Taylor South Pasadena, CA $16,400 128-8 Steve Kim San Jose, CA $16,300 136-7 Zack Han Lakewood, WA $16,300 116-5 David Ho Sugarland, TX $16,000 137-10 Chuck Ruggeroli Las Vegas, NV $16,000 138-7 Carlton Jerome $15,500 114-6 Nick Lanzi St. Louis, MS $15,400 125-10 Jason Rich Carmel, IN $15,200 127-8 Aaron Donovan $15,000 139-6 Rami Owera Salt Lake City, UT $14,200 114-2 Charles Dawson Lexington, KY $14,100 125-2 Jeremy Flynn Sinai Valley, CA $13,600 136-1 David Daneshgar Westlake, CA $13,300 114-4 Danny Benjamin Durham, NC $13,300 116-3 Chris Russo Harmosa Beach, CA $13,200 116-2 Brandon Wong Fresno, CA $13,000 125-4 Dan Schmiech Houston, TX $12,800 137-1 Daniel Vogel $12,700 127-3 Jim Bechtel Gilbert, AZ $12,500 - Kevin Zyblock $12,400 125-8 Benjamin Foster San Jose, CA $12,300 139-7 Phil Hellmuth $12,200 137-9 Jeff Gibralter Rockwall, TX $12,000 127-2 Josh Olson Coon Rapids, MN $11,900 125-1 Mark Kozin $11,500 114-1 Cecilia Reyes Madrid, Spain $10,700 117-10 Vincent Devita Bayville, NJ $10,300 139-5 Kevin Bott $9,600 126-5 Kenny Goldstein $9,400 125-5 Mark Chapic Cleveland, OH $9,100 116-6 Roberto Gordon Upland, CA $8,800 115-3 Paul Westley London, England $8,600 116-1 Allie Prescott Memphis, TN $7,700 115-2 Timothy Miles Tallahassee, FL $4,600 139-9 Arnie Toler Gilbert, WV 138-2 Jim Lester Cincinnati, OH Notables still remaining Defending Champion Scott Fischman, Phil Hellmuth (1989 World Champion), Greg Raymer (2004 World Champion), Jim Bechtel (1993 World Champion), Mike Matusow, Dave Ulliott, Cyndy Violette, Allen Cunningham This event was won by Scott Fischman last year. 2305 entries this year compared to 831 last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 There is a skill to playing poker but it still comes down to the cards. Phil Hellmuth is considered a top player but he's wallowing at the bottom. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted June 4, 2005 Author Share Posted June 4, 2005 There is a skill to playing poker but it still comes down to the cards. Phil Hellmuth is considered a top player but he's wallowing at the bottom. PTR 351103[/snapback] Agreed, however it is possible to survive and advanced without a ton of premium cards. You just have to be creative. Now later in the limit poker events they will be having you better be getting some cards. If ANY pro wins a just one bracelet this year it will be a huge accomplishment. If these smaller events are going to bring out 2500 people it's going to be so tough for a name player to win a bracelet, let alone make a final table. There are still some left in this event though, so maybe we will see one or two of them at the final table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 The results this year will be interesting and in some ways make or break as to how folks will react to it. Folks really got turned onto it watching the 2003 results developing their likes and dislikes for the personalities involved. The 2004 results increased interest as new personalities entered the coverage and new favorites were found among the "good" players. However, one of the odd occurences I think in terms of really developing a fan following for the "good" players is that the usual turnover of good players making the final table occured as luck plays such a strong role in this game. I think only 1 of 9 players (Harrington unless there were others) made it to the final table again and its going to be tough to tell stories with viewers rooting for players if they all end up losing and new crew comes out. Several things were done which limited this effect: 1. The game expanded big time so there were ample opportunities for the old favorites to win/make some big bucks and support their reps even if they got flushed at the WSOP. 2. Viewers were still relatively new too the game so the emergence of new personalities was expected by the new viewer so they could ignore the fact that many new winners simply emerged due to the luck of the game. 3. The need/desire for TV time allowed ESPN to cherry pick their own fields and promote and designate stars with interesting stories to tell like the Lederers, Phil Ivey or Phil Hellmuth even if there records at WSOP or on the circuit was good but did not match the domination which was promoted in 2003 and 2004. It will be interesting to see how the results play out in terms of the story telling that the networks do and the growing popularity of the internet and gambling. it will be a nice story if some of the earlier peronalities like Jesus Ferguson, Annie Lederer or even grudgingly for me the peripatetic Phil Hellmuth do well in the game and good story arcs are maintained. However, if a whole new bunh of winners emerge and the game turns into little more than watching people play a more complicated version of the NY Lottery it may be pretty boring pretty quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taterhill Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 2005 World Series of PokerRio All-Suite Hotel & Casino Event #2: $1,500 No-Limit Hold 'Em Buy-In: $1,500 Entries: 2305 Prize Pool: $3,180,900 Players Remaining: 111 Chip Count Table-Seat Name Hometown Chip Count 128-6 Daniel Monroe Dublin, Ohio $130,700 138-6 Mike Matusow Las Vegas, NV $108,300 115-8 Andrew Kelsall Lutz, FL $107,900 136-2 Scott Fischman Las Vegas, NV $82,100 128-3 Jim Plateroi Westlake Village, CA $77,200 116-4 Mark Seif Incline Village, NV $73,100 139-10 Sam Von Duhn Wooddale, IL $71,100 126-3 Dave Freed Las Vegas, NV $67,600 137-2 Rob Amereno Tucson, AZ $61,300 128-10 Ky Lai Vu Westminster, CA $59,600 138-9 Can Kim Hua Rosemead, CA $55,700 138-5 Josiah Trager Brooklyn, NY $54,900 116-8 Dave "Devilfish" Ulliott $54,000 137- Marcello DelGrosso Toronto, Canada $53,400 138-1 John Evans Olathe, KS $50,800 127-9 Terry Weimer Fort Wayne, IN $50,500 139-8 Steven Shkolnik Woodland Hills, CA $49,300 114-9 David Tran Elmonte, CA $48,800 126-10 Loi Phan Seattle, WA $47,300 116-7 Jay Smith Castaic, CA $46,600 117-1 Ronnie Yambra Houston, TX $46,400 114-3 Greg Raymer Stonington, CT $44,600 126-1 Lance Newton Statesboro, GA $44,000 136-8 Michael Myers Nashville, TN $44,000 139-4 Gavin Writer Castle Rock, CO $43,800 127-7 Alex Armany Beverly Hills, CA $43,200 117-8 Ralph Schwartz New York, NY $42,600 117-4 Diego Cordovez Palo Alto, CA $41,900 117-6 Allen Cunnigham Marina del Rey, CA $41,000 114-10 Travis Green Iruine, CA $40,600 116-10 Jeff Rine Las Vegas, NV $39,800 115-6 Jeff Calkins New York, NY $39,400 128-9 Liz Lieu Los Angeles, CA $39,400 138-10 Danny Smith Folsom, CA $38,500 128-4 Richard Boutwell Duluth, GA $38,300 137-8 Allen Goldstein Houston, TX $38,100 115-5 Jason Steinhorn Cupertino, CA $37,000 117-2 Minh Ly $35,000 125-7 Burt Boutin $34,700 136-3 Eric Taylor Houston, TX $34,000 139-2 Jeremy Brom San Diego, CA $33,500 128-1 Keith Clarke Carlsbad, CA $32,000 127-4 Thomas Savitsky Randolph, NJ $31,800 125-9 Emad Alabsi Cleveland, OH $31,400 137-7 Rory Monahan Murphysboro, IL $30,100 114-8 An Tran Las Vegas, NV $30,000 114-7 Darren Woolard Las Vegas, NV $29,600 126-6 Pat Moore Vancouver, WA $29,400 125-3 Tom Lee Denver, CO $29,200 127-5 Jeremy Stein Boulder, CO $28,700 136-6 Saso Perduloski Detroit, MI $28,400 125-6 Cyndy Violette $27,900 126-8 Matthew Fletcher London, England $26,600 126-4 David Levi Las Vegas, NV $26,400 117-3 Steve Greenberg Andover, NJ $26,300 128-5 Andy Reanrungroch Las Vegas, NV $26,200 115-10 Charles Huff Geneva, OH $24,900 127-1 Boris Shate Los Angeles, CA $24,800 115-1 Kevin Keller San Diego, CA $24,200 136-9 David Tuchman $24,000 139-3 Thomas Fougeron $23,400 115-4 Marc Lome Minneapolis, MN $22,800 138-3 Kerry Small Ventnor, NJ $22,000 114-5 Shreeniwas Kelkar Kirkland, WA $21,900 127-6 Chris Sapirman Hollywood, FL $20,400 137-6 Joe Pelton Newport Beach, CA $19,800 128-2 Kenny Robbins Las Vegas, NV $19,700 136-5 Eric Sarkission Tarzana, CA $19,400 - Gregg Smallowitz Plainview, NY $19,200 115-7 Mark Scott Cincinnati, OH $18,900 137-4 Melvin Swancy Lake Ellsinore, CA $18,600 126-2 Ben Davenport San Francisco, CA $18,100 138-4 Jim Pursifull Dayton, OH $17,900 117-5 Randy Edmonson Columbus, MS $16,400 127-10 Kenneth Taylor South Pasadena, CA $16,400 128-8 Steve Kim San Jose, CA $16,300 136-7 Zack Han Lakewood, WA $16,300 116-5 David Ho Sugarland, TX $16,000 137-10 Chuck Ruggeroli Las Vegas, NV $16,000 138-7 Carlton Jerome $15,500 114-6 Nick Lanzi St. Louis, MS $15,400 125-10 Jason Rich Carmel, IN $15,200 127-8 Aaron Donovan $15,000 139-6 Rami Owera Salt Lake City, UT $14,200 114-2 Charles Dawson Lexington, KY $14,100 125-2 Jeremy Flynn Sinai Valley, CA $13,600 136-1 David Daneshgar Westlake, CA $13,300 114-4 Danny Benjamin Durham, NC $13,300 116-3 Chris Russo Harmosa Beach, CA $13,200 116-2 Brandon Wong Fresno, CA $13,000 125-4 Dan Schmiech Houston, TX $12,800 137-1 Daniel Vogel $12,700 127-3 Jim Bechtel Gilbert, AZ $12,500 - Kevin Zyblock $12,400 125-8 Benjamin Foster San Jose, CA $12,300 139-7 Phil Hellmuth $12,200 137-9 Jeff Gibralter Rockwall, TX $12,000 127-2 Josh Olson Coon Rapids, MN $11,900 125-1 Mark Kozin $11,500 114-1 Cecilia Reyes Madrid, Spain $10,700 117-10 Vincent Devita Bayville, NJ $10,300 139-5 Kevin Bott $9,600 126-5 Kenny Goldstein $9,400 125-5 Mark Chapic Cleveland, OH $9,100 116-6 Roberto Gordon Upland, CA $8,800 115-3 Paul Westley London, England $8,600 116-1 Allie Prescott Memphis, TN $7,700 115-2 Timothy Miles Tallahassee, FL $4,600 139-9 Arnie Toler Gilbert, WV 138-2 Jim Lester Cincinnati, OH Notables still remaining Defending Champion Scott Fischman, Phil Hellmuth (1989 World Champion), Greg Raymer (2004 World Champion), Jim Bechtel (1993 World Champion), Mike Matusow, Dave Ulliott, Cyndy Violette, Allen Cunningham This event was won by Scott Fischman last year. 2305 entries this year compared to 831 last year. 351097[/snapback] BF, where did you get this? I would like to check it out from time to time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted June 4, 2005 Author Share Posted June 4, 2005 www.pokerpages.com They are doing updates every few hours. This was from this morning. They haven't started play today yet. I think it starts at 12 noon Vegas time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted June 5, 2005 Author Share Posted June 5, 2005 Event Number 2 Final Table Seat 1- Richard Boutwell (204,000 in chips) Seat 2- Scott Fischman (707,000) Seat 3- Dave "Devilfish" Ulliott (270,000) Seat 4- Allen Cunningham (728,000) Seat 5- Charlie Huff (509,000) Seat 6- Randy Edmunson (89,000) Seat 7- Can Kim Hua (440,000) Seat 8- Liz Lieu (177,000) Seat 9- An Tran (337,000) Scott Fischman is the defending champion of this event and is looking for back to back bracelets in this event. Allen Cunningham, Dave Ulliott, and An Tran are also previous bracelet winners in various events. I'm rooting for Fischman. It would be spectacular to win back to back with these fields (831 and 2305) I'll post event number 3 info later. They are down to about 70 players I believe with some pros still hanging in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 I cant believe there isnt a poker channel or a PPV event covering this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted June 5, 2005 Author Share Posted June 5, 2005 I cant believe there isnt a poker channel or a PPV event covering this... 351531[/snapback] That would be nice. I'd love to see something like that. The main event final table is always live on the internet. That's about it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted June 6, 2005 Author Share Posted June 6, 2005 WSOP Event # 2: $1,500 No Limit Hold 'Em Final Results 1st Allen Cunningham (Ventura, CA, USA) $725,405 2nd Scott Fischman (Las Vegas, NV, USA) $352,125 3rd Dave Ulliott (Hull, United Kingdom) $232,205 4th Can Kim Hua (Rosemead, CA, USA) $200,395 5th Liz Lieu (Los Angeles, CA, USA) $168,590 6th Charlie Huff $136,780 7th An Tran (Las Vegas, NV, USA) $104,970 8th Randy Edmonson (Columbus, MS, USA) $73,160 9th Richard Boutwell (Duluth, GA, USA) $54,075 Event #3: $1,500 Pot-Limit Hold 'Em Final Results 1st Thomas Werthmann (Bloomfield Hills, MI, USA) $369,535 2nd Layne Flack (Las Vegas, NV, USA) $185,855 3rd Hieu Ma (S El Monte, CA, USA) $118,240 4thMartin Green (United Kingdom) $88,680 5th David Bach (Athens, GA, USA) $88,680 6th Mario Valenzuela (Temecula, CA, USA) $73,900 7th Pierre Nasr (Vancouver, BC Canada) $59,120 8th Arash Ghaneian (Los Angeles, CA, USA) $44,340 9rh Ernest Patrick $29,560 The Limit Hold 'Em tournament is still in progress with 100 players left. Phil Hellmuth is now the all time leader in total cashes at the WSOP with 48. He has cashed in his first two events and remains in contention with 100 left to win his 10th bracelet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 So how long until we get a ridiculous statement of the "Chris Moneymaker's a better poker player than Johnny Chan" variety? MWAAA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted June 6, 2005 Author Share Posted June 6, 2005 So how long until we get a ridiculous statement of the "Chris Moneymaker's a better poker player than Johnny Chan" variety? MWAAA! 352193[/snapback] Actually the last two years he is playing much better in tournaments than Johnny is. Moneymaker is no "amateur" persay anymore. He has cashed at one or two other WSOP events and he got second on WPT event since his win in '03. I never said he was better, just that I thought he'd do better in '04 than Chan. He showed up with a friggin hangover and those hopes were dashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Actually the last two years he is playing much better in tournaments than Johnny is. Moneymaker is no "amateur" persay anymore. He has cashed at one or two other WSOP events and he got second on WPT event since his win in '03. I never said he was better, just that I thought he'd do better in '04 than Chan. He showed up with a friggin hangover and those hopes were dashed. 352364[/snapback] Tell ya what, I was surprised Money makers book was so good. If you like poker and gambling, this is a pretty good read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 I cant believe there isnt a poker channel or a PPV event covering this... 351531[/snapback] They want to edit out the 70% of the hands were everyone folds to the first bettor, etc. so that people think it is more exciting than it really is. But why it takes four months to do that I have no idea. I think people would rather watch it live even if it wasn't edited down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted June 6, 2005 Author Share Posted June 6, 2005 They want to edit out the 70% of the hands were everyone folds to the first bettor, etc. so that people think it is more exciting than it really is. But why it takes four months to do that I have no idea. I think people would rather watch it live even if it wasn't edited down. 352404[/snapback] I watch poker on television for educational reasons. I would rather see it as it happens and watch all the button raises, blind steals, and subtle things that go on. I hate the all in fest coverage of the events other than the main event at the WSOP. I love watching WPT though because they show a lot more than the WSOP coverage does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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