I Am Not Optimistic Going Into This Season

[Augie]

10 minutes ago, Bills Fan in MD said:

For the first four games, I predict they will go either 4-0, 3-1, 2-2, 1-3, or 0-4.

 

Mark it down.

 

Great…..now we’re going to have a tie……

[Success]

I plan to appreciate & be excited every year Allen is QB, and certainly every year we have a team like this - which is a SB-caliber roster when healthy.

 

I remember all of those years when we'd go through the schedule and hope for breaks, fumbles, bad weather and other flukey things that could maybe get us over .500 and sneaking into the playoffs.  And the years when the season was basically over in October.

 

 

[Matt_In_NH]

Vegas is optimistic about the bills.   They are a true independent view on it.   
 

want to be mr negative go for it!   I am going to root the whole way….and be optimistic.  
 

the bills have this guy josh Allen 

[BfloBillsFan]

3 hours ago, gordong said:

where are the bills weaker??   not sure how you can even say they are weaker in any area.

The only spot I see would be starting LB. Bills are better TE, WR, RB, DL, DE and secondary (assuming all players who were injured are healthy) this year on roster 

[McBean]

4 hours ago, longtimebillsfan said:

Please talk me off the ledge.

 

I could see this season with the Bills going 2-2 in their first four games.

 

The Jets will go into their home opener sky high.

 

We should be able to handle the Raiders and Commanders. 

 

The Dolphins game could go either way.  At least the game is in OP.

 

I just think that our team is weaker than last year.

 

I could realistically see the Bills missing the playoffs this year.

 

With all the pundants saying the Bills window is closing, I am starting to think that Josh may never get us to the Lombardi trophy.

Who’s our HC?

 

Should tell you all you wanna know in setting expectations this season.

 

10-7 max

[BIGFOOTspaceman]

26 minutes ago, McBean said:

Who’s our HC?

 

Should tell you all you wanna know in setting expectations this season.

 

10-7 max

Wow…you think they break double digits?  Ok Mr optimistic. 

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think the conference is stronger. I don't much trust the coaching with the Chargers and whoever the coach is the Chargers gonna find a way to Charger, but one year that talented roster will put up serious regular season numbers despite themselves. 

 

I think the Jags are a rising team and while I don't love their offseason them winning 11 or 12 games and being dangerous in the playoffs is a real possibility. 

 

Where I am a bit more sceptical is the division. If the Dolphins end up being great I stand to have serious egg on my face. But I really, really don't see it. I see an offense that stalled last year after Thanksgiving that has lost the "new scheme surprise" factor and a defense that while having better coaching still has talent holes. But it isn't me being a Bills homer on that.... step back and genuinely I think they are hugely overrated.

 

They Jets could be really good. There is reason to believe it with them. If you told me they win the division I wouldn't be stunned. But I'd price the Bills up still as pretty strong favourites. 

 

What the Bills are suffering from is the jaded reaction that a team who is always there without getting over the hump attracts. But people are sleeping on how many good players remain on this roster. 

Really well said Gunner. 

 

Despite my criticisms the Bills are still a top tier team and the favorite to win the division. 

 

The Jets are probably the most dangerous to Buffalo in the division.

 

Miami is formidable but I'm not sold on Tua and his health. Hill and Waddle are really good though. Will Fangio make a difference? Allen seems to do well attacking his defense. 

 

Chargers are perplexing. On paper, they are probably as talented as any team in the NFL. Boy, do they find ways to lose big games. Year after year they have the Chiefs beat only to lose most of the time. The Jags playoff loss was epic in a bad way. I suspect they will excell one year. They almost remind me of a younger version of the Bills 

 

Jags are up and coming. Wonder if they can continue on their winning ways? AFC South is so bad they might win by default. Have to think Lawrence only gets better. 

 

KC and Cincy are scary good. Well coached and elite QBs.

 

I'm excited about this season. 

 

Go Bills. 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

 

"I just think that our team is weaker than last year."

 

Really? Because I think we're better. Vegas seems to think we're pretty good.

 

Don't watch so much TV and listen to radio.

Edited August 30, 2023 by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower

[Royale with Cheese]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think the conference is stronger. I don't much trust the coaching with the Chargers and whoever the coach is the Chargers gonna find a way to Charger, but one year that talented roster will put up serious regular season numbers despite themselves. 

 

I think the Jags are a rising team and while I don't love their offseason them winning 11 or 12 games and being dangerous in the playoffs is a real possibility. 

 

Where I am a bit more sceptical is the division. If the Dolphins end up being great I stand to have serious egg on my face. But I really, really don't see it. I see an offense that stalled last year after Thanksgiving that has lost the "new scheme surprise" factor and a defense that while having better coaching still has talent holes. But it isn't me being a Bills homer on that.... step back and genuinely I think they are hugely overrated.

 

They Jets could be really good. There is reason to believe it with them. If you told me they win the division I wouldn't be stunned. But I'd price the Bills up still as pretty strong favourites. 

 

What the Bills are suffering from is the jaded reaction that a team who is always there without getting over the hump attracts. But people are sleeping on how many good players remain on this roster. 

Which Bill isn’t being talked about enough for this upcoming season that you expect to have a real good year?

[Thrivefourfive]

3 hours ago, uninja said:

 

Oh I know that we dominated them completely by all measurable offensive metrics, doesn't change what the final score was. In 2020 we also dominated the Titans in that Tuesday shitshow game if you look at offensive metrics but the final score tells a very different story.

 

Offensive stats don't mean much if don't turn those into points.

I’m going to turn this into the awesome thought of the Titans game LAST YEAR! Oh, that beat down was fantastic. Taking no prisoners at that point. 

[BIGFOOTspaceman]

31 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Which Bill isn’t being talked about enough for this upcoming season that you expect to have a real good year?

Robert Royal

[machine gun kelly]

5 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

You just want to get rescued by a fireman with big arms and a thick mustache.

You mean firemen like this …

 

Dude, stop watching ESPN.  This is the hype train running you over on NYJ and the Fish.

 

We are a much stronger team this year over last year with more depth in so many areas.

[Eastport bills]

I don’t have a good read on the 1st game for betting purposes but how can anyone have doubts about this Bills team being better than  last year’s version. Our guards are better, RBs are better and TEs/Receivers are better. D/line is better with Floyd/Miller and the secondary is better with Hyde, Poyer,Rapp and a healthy White and corners in their 2nd year. Don’t be misled by NFL talk show hosts that are believers in the Jets, Miami and others that have proved zero and are in new offenses and have real O -line issues. Either you believe in our team or you don’t.

[oldmanfan]

6 hours ago, longtimebillsfan said:

Please talk me off the ledge.

 

I could see this season with the Bills going 2-2 in their first four games.

 

The Jets will go into their home opener sky high.

 

We should be able to handle the Raiders and Commanders. 

 

The Dolphins game could go either way.  At least the game is in OP.

 

I just think that our team is weaker than last year.

 

I could realistically see the Bills missing the playoffs this year.

 

With all the pundants saying the Bills window is closing, I am starting to think that Josh may never get us to the Lombardi trophy.

Never say never.  I think we are stronger at RB, TE, G, WR depth, and with an O coordinator with a year’s experience.  Or to put it another way we did just what folks have been clamoring for and put more pieces around Josh.

[4th&long]

I like people who are doom and gloom to stay there.  I don’t try to change anyone’s mind. 
 

If there can’t look at a roster and evaluate it, so be it.

6 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Never say never.  I think we are stronger at RB, TE, G, WR depth, and with an O coordinator with a year’s experience.  Or to put it another way we did just what folks have been clamoring for and put more pieces around Josh.

Not to mention we are better just by our players being healthy. Let’s hope they can stay healthy!

Edited August 31, 2023 by 4th&long

[Rocky Landing]

Ah, I miss the good old days when EJ Manuel was firing lasers at the media pop-up tent, causing Kevin Kolb to break his spleen on a rubber mat, while Rex Ryan massaged Maddy Glab’s feet. We really won the off-season back in those days. Good times…

[ToGoGo]

They claimed every year would finally be the Pat’s demise, but it never happened. 
 

Best HC/GM/QB combo in the league. Suck it fake fans. 

[FitzShowUsYourTitz]

6 hours ago, longtimebillsfan said:

Please talk me off the ledge.

 

I could see this season with the Bills going 2-2 in their first four games.

 

The Jets will go into their home opener sky high.

 

We should be able to handle the Raiders and Commanders. 

 

The Dolphins game could go either way.  At least the game is in OP.

 

I just think that our team is weaker than last year.

 

I could realistically see the Bills missing the playoffs this year.

 

With all the pundants saying the Bills window is closing, I am starting to think that Josh may never get us to the Lombardi trophy.

So please be honest here:

 

1.  What was your position last year at this time? 
2.  Did your opinion matter or have any impact on the result/was it accurate?

 

Personally, I tend to go a little opposite…Meaning last year we somehow became media darlings and the ‘hot take’ pic to win the SB.  I was super skeptical of all that.  
We need to be an underdog.  Need that hill to climb.  I think we’re a better team than last year.  JMHO

[aristocrat]

I’m good. Stay healthy and this team wins more than last year 

[maddenboy]

6 hours ago, ddaryl said:

I'll make a determination after the 1st 5-6 games

I really can't tell if this team is really better this year, but last year I thought we were more solid then we turned out to be.

By mid October will know for sure... until then it's either the doom and gloomers or pom pom posters. I'm a wait and see guy. 

We are a good team either way, but are we a SB team???  Honestly cannot tell till I see how we a stack up against other teams.

which means you are also not optimistic.

 

its like saying "in a normal year, i could tell you right now.  But this year . . . ."

 

its like saying "i might become optimistic at some point"