B-Man Posted December 20, 2023 Posted December 20, 2023 TRUTH: This is what an *actual* attack on democracy looks like: in an un-American, unconstitutional, and *unprecedented* decision, a cabal of Democrat judges are barring Trump from the ballot in Colorado. Having tried every trick in the book to eliminate President Trump from running in this election, the bipartisan Establishment is now deploying a new tactic to bar him from ever holding office again: the 14th Amendment. I pledge to *withdraw* from the Colorado GOP primary unless Trump is also allowed to be on the state’s ballot, and I demand that Ron DeSantis, Chris Christie, and Nikki Haley to do the same immediately - or else they are tacitly endorsing this illegal maneuver which will have disastrous consequences for our country. Today’s decision is the latest election interference tactic to silence political opponents and swing the election for whatever puppet the Democrats put up this time by depriving Americans of the right to vote for their candidate of choice. The 14th Amendment was part of the “Reconstruction Amendments” that were ratified following the Civil War. It was passed to prohibit former Confederate military and political leaders from holding high federal or state office. These men had clearly taken part in a rebellion against the United States: the Civil War. That makes it all the more absurd that a left-wing group in Colorado is asking a federal court to disqualify the 45th President on the same grounds, equating his speech to rebellion against the United States. And there’s another legal problem: Trump is not a former “officer of the United States,” as that term is used in the Constitution, meaning Section 3 does not apply. As the Supreme Court explained in Free Enterprise Fund v. Public Company Accounting Oversight Board (2010), an “officer of the United States” is someone appointed by the President to aid him in his duties under Article II, Section 2. The term does not apply to elected officials, and certainly not to the President himself. The Framers of the 14th Amendment would be appalled to see this narrow provision—intended to bar former U.S. officials who switched to the Confederacy from seeking public office—being weaponized by a sitting President and his political allies to prevent a former President from seeking reelection. Our country is becoming unrecognizable to our Founding Fathers. . 1 2
ChiGoose Posted December 20, 2023 Posted December 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, B-Man said: This is obviously wrong but things that are obviously wrong are easily believable for conservatives these days. 2 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted December 20, 2023 Posted December 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: This is obviously wrong but things that are obviously wrong are easily believable for conservatives these days. Which part is wrong? 1
BillStime Posted December 20, 2023 Author Posted December 20, 2023 No matter how the Supreme Court rules - this will have GINORMOUS impact on future Presidencies. What comes around goes around. Oh - Mac is right: 1 1
L Ron Burgundy Posted December 20, 2023 Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, SCBills said: Ahh yes … must be Q MAGA to oppose a former President being removed from a ballot via lawfare. Good luck with this .. you just handed that clown a mountain of ammo to win back the normies. Doing things by the law vs breaking the law. You seeing no difference says a lot. I don't think it will get held up but it should. Imagine a scenario where he gets held off a bunch of ballots (meaning this is upheld and then other states follow). Trump drops out then Biden follows. Win-win. Biden said he's mostly running because Trump though who knows.
JaCrispy Posted December 20, 2023 Posted December 20, 2023 20 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Doing things by the law vs breaking the law. You seeing no difference says a lot. I don't think it will get held up but it should. Imagine a scenario where he gets held off a bunch of ballots (meaning this is upheld and then other states follow). Trump drops out then Biden follows. Win-win. Biden said he's mostly running because Trump though who knows. Really? Biden actually said he would only run if Trump did? 1
BillStime Posted December 20, 2023 Author Posted December 20, 2023 This freak talks about democracy while he attempts to erase gays and ban books. GTFOH here little guy
Irv Posted December 20, 2023 Posted December 20, 2023 What a mess. This is so un-American. If you don't like Trump, don't vote for him. But don't do this. 2
ChiGoose Posted December 20, 2023 Posted December 20, 2023 52 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: Which part is wrong? He was not found guilty of a crime. Being found guilty of a crime isn’t a requirement. 2
Orlando Buffalo Posted December 20, 2023 Posted December 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: He was not found guilty of a crime. Being found guilty of a crime isn’t a requirement. Do you actually believe a simple accusation is enough? By that standard Obama found not run because Hillary claimed he was born in Kenya.
Irv Posted December 20, 2023 Posted December 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: He was not found guilty of a crime. Being found guilty of a crime isn’t a requirement. This is so wrong. Stripping voting rights that you jokers B word about 24 x 7. ***** hypocrites.
L Ron Burgundy Posted December 20, 2023 Posted December 20, 2023 45 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Really? Biden actually said he would only run if Trump did? Wasn't super specific but I found what I recall. So, if that's true. Trump getting bounced would be amazing. If Trump wasn't running, I'm not sure I'd be running," Biden said at a fundraising event for his 2024 campaign outside of Boston. "We cannot let him win." Biden's striking self-assessment comes as even staunch Democratic voters express concerns about the president's age. 1
L Ron Burgundy Posted December 20, 2023 Posted December 20, 2023 27 minutes ago, Irv said: This is so wrong. Stripping voting rights that you jokers B word about 24 x 7. ***** hypocrites. Woo you went to whining pretty quick. Unfortunately for you if that's the law that's the law. We know people like you would vote in scum of the earth - you already did. You just bitched about this more than the fake electors. Why? Because you are the hypocrite. You don't give af when your people try to cheat. 38 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: Do you actually believe a simple accusation is enough? By that standard Obama found not run because Hillary claimed he was born in Kenya. Huh? 1
ChiGoose Posted December 20, 2023 Posted December 20, 2023 50 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: Do you actually believe a simple accusation is enough? By that standard Obama found not run because Hillary claimed he was born in Kenya. Oh no, an accusation is definitely not enough. You’re right on point with the claims about Obama. What happens if a presidential candidate is potentially ineligible under the constitution? Generally, some party will sue their state to remove the candidate from the ballot. Maybe they aren’t 35. Maybe they were born in Panama. Maybe they are Jefferson Davis in disguise. The legal process will then play out to adjudicate the claims. Frivolous nonsense will get dismissed. More serious claims may make it farther along. This particular issue has been in the courts in several states. This is the only time in which one of those courts has found in favor of the plaintiffs. 52 minutes ago, Irv said: This is so wrong. Stripping voting rights that you jokers B word about 24 x 7. ***** hypocrites. Lol. You know absolutely nothing and love to show it. ***** moron. 1
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