Chicken Boo Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 With this regime? Only as long as Allen has a Diggs type of threat on the outside. Without that, Allen will be Phillip Rivers territory. Great stats, winning seasons, but ultimately go nowhere. A different regime could bring about different results. Quote
Ya Digg? Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mango said: I think Mahomes is the better QB by a some margin, can do more with less at WR, is much more slippery in the pocket, and has a quicker release which protects his OL a bit more. I think the set up in KC is closer to Brady and NE. The Bills are closer to Rodgers/GB or Brees/NO. There will be a lot more ups and downs, but we will always have a chance vs. being the favorite. I think once KC loses Kelce they will be just like everyone else. Mahomes is great, but it certainly helps that he has possibly the greatest TE ever (after also having possibly the fastest WR ever). When you don’t have guys that can get open, your QB play all of a sudden drops Quote
Niagara Dude Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, BruceVilanch said: Josh is 27, our window is wide open. Not if they don't get him better surrounding talent and continue to expect him to carry the team both passing and running the football. 1 1 Quote
The Firebaugh Kid Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 As long as #17 is here, its wide open. 1 Quote
Niagara Dude Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, Mango said: I think Mahomes is the better QB by a some margin, can do more with less at WR, is much more slippery in the pocket, and has a quicker release which protects his OL a bit more. I think the set up in KC is closer to Brady and NE. The Bills are closer to Rodgers/GB or Brees/NO. There will be a lot more ups and downs, but we will always have a chance vs. being the favorite. Excellent post, Beane is living off of Allen because outside of Diggs the roster has no other elite talent. Beanie needs to get this team younger, too many older guys making big money that are not stars. 1 Quote
Mango Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: I think once KC loses Kelce they will be just like everyone else. Mahomes is great, but it certainly helps that he has possibly the greatest TE ever (after also having possibly the fastest WR ever). When you don’t have guys that can get open, your QB play all of a sudden drops I will try not to derail this after this one. You may be onto something with Kelce. I don't totally disagree. I don't think about Hill often because they found just as much success without him. Mahomes is much more equitable with the football. I think some of it is Andy Reid. Some of it is talent of the WR room. But I also think Mahomes does a better job of making you cover everybody more often. I don't mean this as a knock on Allen. I just don't think there is any more 1a/1b at QB anymore. It is Mahomes first with some discussion between Burrow/Allen as to 2a/2b. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 54 minutes ago, balln said: https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-bills-win-projections-regular-season-super-bowl-chris-simms-josh-allen it’s closing Chris Simms is always right. 1 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 Anything less than the AFC Championship game this year with a healthy Allen and it is time to move on from McDermott with or without Beane. I know many on here think this is insane and I also know many agree with me. On paper this is the best DL and secondary McD has ever had, albeit a bit on the older side. On paper the OL looks as good as it ever has. For me it is win now for this head coach. He robbed us of one championship with 13 seconds. He was masterful last year dealing with adversity and he deserves credit for that. Now it is time to at least make the Conference Championship game again. If not I want Allen to have another head coach to give us a shot at a SuperBowl 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 the window for "how long is the window open" threads? that window never closes... 2 Quote
schoolhouserock Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 Not sure about windows. I’m more of a screen door guy. Quote
26TrapDraw Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, K-9 said: Damn you beat me to it 🤣 Quote
RobbRiddick Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: You guys are infatuated with windows. The window this the window that... Windows, windows, windows Say what you want, no window will ever beat the black windows Quote
MJS Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 If you have a good QB, your window is open. If you don't, it is probably closed. Some fans are so soft... 1 Quote
716to540 Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: You guys are infatuated with windows. The window this the window that... Windows, windows, windows Just yesterday I had to tell my wife to close the window because the air conditioning was on. "Whatya trying to do, cool the whole neighborhood????" 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, MJS said: If you have a good QB, your window is open. If you don't, it is probably closed. Some fans are so soft... 1 Quote
Drew21PA Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 As long as Josh is here and healthy? Always open look I get it - but the same would be said for Mahomes as well these guys are so rare. Yes you want to load up your team but how quick we have forgotten before diggs josh Allen MADE 1,000 yard recievers - John brown and coke Beasley beat years of their careers people really need to chill Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 17 minutes ago, MJS said: If you have a good QB, your window is open. If you don't, it is probably closed. Some fans are so soft... This is accurate. With a top 3 QB anything can happen. Need a little luck with injuries and need to hit on some rookies and first year players to contribute. Probably need your QB to take a bit of a hometown discount and probably need a couple vets to give you a Championship opportunity discount. So the window with Allen playing at a high level will never be closed, but it could be more or less open from year to year depending on the supporting cast. 1 Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, BruceVilanch said: Josh is 27, our window is wide open. As bills fans, we should want to believe if but it’s the nfl. Dudes get old fast. I know Cam Newton is not the most popular guy but he won a Heisman, Rookie of the Year, MVP, and carried a pretty crappy Carolina offense to the SB. Then his body broke down. There is zero guarantee on health. Additionally, once qbs get their big contract, it becomes so much difficult to keep contending teams together. the team is in a tricky place. You can’t mortgage the future but you can’t just assume the window is open because they shut really fast in the nfl sadly. 2 Quote
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Success said: The "window" is a myth. It will be varying degrees of open - but as long as Allen is QB, it's not closed. Agreed. As long as we have Allen, and Beane can figure out creative ways to build a competitive roster, we will stay in the play-offs, more often than not. That said, the team will evolve throughout Josh Allen's career, with different strengths and weaknesses, based on where we spend money, and where we try and invest less, and try and work around the weaknesses. 1 Quote
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