The 2023 - ??? Edmunds Report

[Sharky7337]

5 minutes ago, FLFan said:

I repeat, who cares?  

We do

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

3 hours ago, FireChans said:

There was a weekly “this guy isn’t that bad I swear” report on Edmunds for the last couple years.

 

After watching him whiff yesterday, I’m not sure if he got benched or what, but I’d love to hear some breakdown of the former “ProBowler” and his level of play in a Bears uni. 

Edmunds is only 25 years old. He still hasn’t hit his peak. 

[Beck Water]

3 hours ago, FireChans said:

There was a weekly “this guy isn’t that bad I swear” report on Edmunds for the last couple years.

 

After watching him whiff yesterday, I’m not sure if he got benched or what, but I’d love to hear some breakdown of the former “ProBowler” and his level of play in a Bears uni. 

 

He's been injured thru preseason.  He only came back to practice this past week.  Snap counts aren't out yet, but he started the game and likely played just a handful of snaps.

 

No team is going to pay a guy $18M AAV and $50M guaranteed ($36.8M at signing) then bench him before he plays a regular season snap.  That's a new height of delusion even for you.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

9 minutes ago, FLFan said:

I repeat, who cares?  

God cares, Day-vee.

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said:

I would think that you would be used to this. Folks are still bashing HOF bound LT Jason Peters, no?

 

I hear he's been linked to the Bills

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Word is Tylor Swift is combing through the TBD Tremaine Edmunds threads to write a breakup song for Bills Mafia.

 

I’ll hit you all up when it drops. 

[LarryMadman]

9 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Edmunds is only 25 years old. He still hasn’t hit his peak. 

Yeah, still kind of considered a rookie, lol

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, RunTheBall said:

I was a HUGE Edmunds fan when we drafted him. Thought we’d be set for over a decade with a potential perennial All-Pro manning the middle of the D. Each year I got a little more disappointed. I was convinced Beane was going to extend him because of the constant praise we heard and the fact he traded up to get him. We could have extended him, the fact that we didn’t says A LOT about what McBeane thought. Edmunds is what he is. He isn’t going to all of a sudden make this big leap in year 6 into the LB we all wanted him to be.

 

The fact is, linebacker isn’t a premium position and they made the call that Oliver at DT was more important than Edmunds at LB. I’m glad we didn’t extend him at the price he got. He’s better than anything we have on the roster currently though (besides Milano), so McD better have a scheme in mind to make up for that this season. I think he does. I think we will see a lot of Rapp and Neal in a big nickle/dime look on passing downs. I don’t think we are looking for an Edmunds replacement because you can’t replace those physical traits. 

 

Good post. 

 

I see the timing of the Oliver extension and so forth a bit differently. 

 

Edmunds was entering free agency.  We all know "tampering" occurs in the form of agent- FO discussions in bars during the Senior Bowl and so forth.  I personally think the Bills wanted to re-up Edmunds, but by the time FA hit, they knew they weren't going to be able to get it done at a price they were willing to pay.

 

The Bills had already exercised Oliver's 5th year option,  so they had a choice about whether and when to negotiate and re-sign him.  They actually did re-sign him on June 3rd, and likely because Oliver decided he was more interested in getting a big dose of guaranteed $$ for his kid and his horses, than in holding out for top dollar.

 

It's notable that Oliver signed a contract reported to include offset language and for about $10M fully guaranteed at signing, than Edmunds did.

 

You're correct about LB being "not a premium position" in the sense that the top-5 ILBs are paid about the same as the top 6-10 DTs, but Oliver is #12 on the DT AAV list right now, so I'm not sure letting Edmunds walk when he received a #4 AAV LB contract while re-signing Oliver as the #12 AAV DT quite supports your argument about the Bills seeing Oliver as more important at DT than Edmunds was at LB.

 

I agree with you in hoping that McDermott has a scheme in mind to make up for the loss of Edmunds, and I've pointed out in the past what he did in 2017 with Preston Brown, Ramon Humber, and Zo Alexander.  I also think McDermott knows that the D will NOT be as good overall this season, and is just hoping it is "enough" and it peaks at the right time.

 

12 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Word is Tylor Swift is combing through the TBD Tremaine Edmunds threads to write a breakup song for Bills Mafia.

 

I’ll hit you all up when it drops. 

 

Why not Aly and AJ?

Edited August 27, 2023 by Beck Water

[PrimeTime101]

3 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Mr. Beane needs some assistance!

[dave mcbride]

59 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Bills fans think anything less than a Ray Lewis highlight reel is unacceptable MLB play.  The criticisms of Edmunds are the same ones tossed at London Fletcher, Poz, and Preston Brown.  "He only makes tackles 5 yards downfield!" As if there was a ever a linebacker who exclusively played in the backfield.  You have to go back to Takeo Spikes to find a player that the linebacker mob approves of. 

 

“The linebacker mob” — love it!

[Capco]

2 hours ago, K-9 said:

Meddle Lanebacker?

No doofus!  It's obviously "Muddle Lonebacker" 🤦‍♂️

Some posters around here, I tell ya...



😂

[JoeF]

3rd rounder next year....I am okay with that return and I liked Edmunds a lot.  Edmunds is a tremendous athlete with wonderful size and speed, but I am pretty sure he will never be an instinct driven MLB. 

 

I will be interested to see how Dorian Williams develops this year -- I believe Coach Babich and McD have plans to eventually train him in both positions... His instincts seem really, really good.

Edited August 28, 2023 by JoeF

[K-9]

45 minutes ago, Capco said:

No doofus!  It's obviously "Muddle Lonebacker" 🤦‍♂️

Some posters around here, I tell ya...



😂

That was my second guess.

[4merper4mer]

3 hours ago, SCBills said:

Our success is mainly due to having Josh Allen .. which Beane 100% gets a ton of credit for.  
 

That said.. He’s a good GM, but I’m getting pretty tired of seeing board favorites get passed over by this team only to ball out…

 

DK Metcalf

George Pickens

Creed Humphrey

Trey Smith

Tariq Woolen

Dawand Jones (too early to tell)

 

Beane is one of the best at managing the cap and keeping solid depth on cap-strapped roster (also need to give credit to Pegula), but when it comes to the draft… a lot of fans have a right to side eye his moves .. because a lot of fans have begged this team to draft really good players that we skipped over for poor results.  
 

Applies to every team every year I every sport.

4 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

What if we won our fantasy league though?

Credibility goes from 0.3 to 0.9 on a scale of a trillion.

[Robert Paulson]

2 hours ago, FLFan said:

He did not play long because he has been out with injury for the past three weeks and they were just giving him a bit of action without undue risk of injury.  He was not benched.  I thought he played fine in his limited snaps.  Perhaps the best thing about him leaving is not having to be subjected to weekly fan analysis (and mis-analysis) of his play.  He does not play here anymore so who cares.  

I need to be right

 

 

/s

[4merper4mer]

4 hours ago, FireChans said:

I’d like to win a Super Bowl. I’d like our players to play well enough to win one. I’m sorry this offends you so much lmao

How many GMs per year assemble a roster that wins a Super Bowl?

 

Of those GMs have they all had a perfect record of selecting and developing a perfect draft class……ever?

 

Have the fan bases of those teams or other teams ever been wrong about draft selections or the pace of development for a draftee?

 

For the love of Pete half of this board would have Andy Isabella as the answer to all our prayers.

[Matt_In_NH]

4 hours ago, Virgil said:

It was strange to head the announcers sing his praises so hard.  I nearly spit my drink out when they said how aggressive he is to the ball.  
 

Then Edmunds proceeded to do his best work, 5th man to the tackle for consecutive plays. 

There was a lot of that....and then there was also this once in a while

 

 

[FireChans]

36 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

How many GMs per year assemble a roster that wins a Super Bowl?

 

Of those GMs have they all had a perfect record of selecting and developing a perfect draft class……ever?

 

Have the fan bases of those teams or other teams ever been wrong about draft selections or the pace of development for a draftee?

 

For the love of Pete half of this board would have Andy Isabella as the answer to all our prayers.

1 wins every year. I want our team to be that one. Again, sorry if that offends you. I don’t know anything about your obsession with Andy Isabella, I suggest you find someone to talk about it.

[Brand J]

1 hour ago, Matt_In_NH said:

There was a lot of that....and then there was also this once in a while

 

 

“Once in awhile”? That was the best hit of his career, the first time I stood up and yelled “let’s go, Tremaine!” To my knowledge, watching every snap he’s played since he was drafted, he doesn’t have another prime time hit like that in his 5 year career.

[Dopey]

5 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

Bills fans think anything less than a Ray Lewis highlight reel is unacceptable MLB play.  The criticisms of Edmunds are the same ones tossed at London Fletcher, Poz, and Preston Brown.  "He only makes tackles 5 yards downfield!" As if there was a ever a linebacker who exclusively played in the backfield.  You have to go back to Takeo Spikes to find a player that the linebacker mob approves of. 

 

Not Bills fans, the small, but vocal crowd is who you are referring to. IMO. They’re also bitching about a 4 rd pick at wr who is supposed to compliment Diggs and has averaged less than $1mil per year, because he’s not our version of Tee Higgins to Chase. It’s the same group. Let’s trade Elam after his rookie season. Maybe he didn’t smile enough.