The 2023 - ??? Edmunds Report

[Brand J]

14 minutes ago, balln said:

pro bowls dont matter. its not a real achievement anymore. 

The Pro Bowl matters when it’s time to negotiate a new contract, agents will reference it. Aside from that, you’re right. It’s not indicative of a player’s talents, skill level, and positional value like it once was. The biggest laugher was Saffold and the Ravens backup QB, Huntley, making it last year. Doesn’t matter if they were alternates either, a pro bowl nod is a pro bowl nod. 

Edited August 27, 2023 by JayBaller10

[Roundybout]

I still think we will miss him on certain plays. Did you see Klein's slow ass reacting to that QB rushing touchdown yesterday? He didn't even look back!

[Bill from NYC]

1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

You've got an interesting definition of “disappointing”.  Multiple Pro-Bowls and top 5 in tackles in the NFL since entering the league…lol.

 

I’ve seen you prop up way worse players but you can’t help but over exaggerate Edmunds cuz he wasn’t the next Ray Lewis lmao

McDermott traded UP for a 19 year old MLB in a passing league. Of course I do not blame Edmunds but it was an idiotic move. He would have had to be almost as great as Ray Lewis for this ill advised, poorly thought trade to have paid off.

Edited August 27, 2023 by Bill from NYC

[Brand J]

4 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

McDermott traded UP for a 19 year old MLB in a passing league. Of course I do not blame Edmunds but it was an idiotic, move. He would have had to be almost as great as Ray Lewis for this ill advised, poorly thought trade to have paid off.

Beane has burned quite a few picks trading up and the only one that has proven worth it is Josh. Dawson Knox is not what I would categorize a big payoff and it’s too early to determine for Kincaid. 

[BillsFan130]

47 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

You've got an interesting definition of “disappointing”.  Multiple Pro-Bowls and top 5 in tackles in the NFL since entering the league…lol.

 

I’ve seen you prop up way worse players but you can’t help but over exaggerate Edmunds cuz he wasn’t the next Ray Lewis lmao

If you want to say Edmunds was good, that’s fair and I would respectfully disagree.

 

But You do know that Roger Saffold made the pro bowl last year, right? 
 

That should tell you everything you need to know about how much of a joke making the pro bowl is

[Shortchaz]

Too tall to be effectively violent. 
 

not sure football is an obsession for him.

 

Extremely rare athleticism/size combination. 

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

But Edmunds was actually very good last season. Is that even arguable? I mean, come on. Opposing QBs had a rating of 69.9 against him and his missed tackle rate was a minuscule 1 percent. This is one of the dumber narratives in Bills fandom, in my opinion. Time to let it go.

 

 

Yeah he elevated his game as a zone coverage defender last year significantly(finally after two brutal seasons) but he still has just never learned how to make plays.    He's just a robotic, uninstinctive LB in a HOF body.    He got so many fat pitches playing in the McDefense and couldn't hit one out of the park to save his life in 5 seasons.   There is literally no highlight reel of the man.  

 

Maybe the sheer volume of snaps played will some day allow Edmunds to turn into an All Pro like DeMario Davis did.    The light came on for Davis in year 6.   But that's about the only such example though.    MLB usually reach their ceiling pretty quickly.   I suspect Edmunds will underwhelm in Chicago and be back in Buffalo in 2025.

 

 

Edited August 27, 2023 by BADOLBILZ

[WotAGuy]

1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

He is a freak

And only 19!  We gave up too sooooooon!

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 27, 2023 by WotAGuy

[Captain_Quint]

2 hours ago, Augie said:

He is making about $18 Million more than I am this year. You can call me any names you want for that. 😋

Prove it with your 1040s!

[QLBillsFan]

Wish him well! Seems like a good kid. Fair against the run, good against the pass. We kept the better of the two lbs. Bills will miss him a bit this year. Overall D will remain solid. Can’t tell you who will be starting at MLB for Bills by mid season. But it could be Williams. As we all know, what are the Bills without a starting Williams !!?  

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said:

Prove it with your 1040s!

 

Sorry, that has been used already. 

 

 

 

For some reason.  🤷‍♂️

[FireChans]

15 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Yeah he elevated his game as a zone coverage defender(finally after two brutal seasons) last year significantly but he still has just never learned how to make plays.    He's just a robotic, uninstinctive LB in a HOF body.    He got so many fat pitches playing in the McDefense and couldn't hit one out of the park to save his life in 5 seasons.   There is literally no highlight reel of the man.  

 

Maybe the sheer volume of snaps played will some day allow Edmunds to turn into an All Pro someday like DeMario Davis did.    The light came on for Davis in year 6.   But that's about the only such example though.    MLB usually reach their ceiling pretty quickly.   I suspect Edmunds will underwhelm in Chicago and be back in Buffalo in 2025.

 

 

Yes, Edmunds is going to follow the Shaq Lawson path of get paid, disappoint and come crawling back to the one place he was productive.

[FLFan]

2 hours ago, FireChans said:

There was a weekly “this guy isn’t that bad I swear” report on Edmunds for the last couple years.

 

After watching him whiff yesterday, I’m not sure if he got benched or what, but I’d love to hear some breakdown of the former “ProBowler” and his level of play in a Bears uni. 

He did not play long because he has been out with injury for the past three weeks and they were just giving him a bit of action without undue risk of injury.  He was not benched.  I thought he played fine in his limited snaps.  Perhaps the best thing about him leaving is not having to be subjected to weekly fan analysis (and mis-analysis) of his play.  He does not play here anymore so who cares.  

[FireChans]

Just now, FLFan said:

He did not play long because he has been out with injury for the past three weeks and they were just giving him a bit of action without undue risk of injury.  He was not benched.  I thought he played fine in his limited snaps.  Perhaps the best thing about him leaving is not having to be subjected to weekly fan analysis (and mis-analysis) of his play.  He does not play here anymore so who cares.  

Lmao if you don’t think the Bears fans are gonna wise-up to this man making gang tackles 8 yards down the field. They still remember Urlacher over there, they are gonna be pissed by week 10.

[Rigotz]

2 hours ago, Rc2catch said:

Some of you guys are really obsessed with trying to trash a player. I thought it was really weird to do for a player on the team you root for. But even after he’s gone, and after the replacement has been a huge concern for a lot we still need to trash the guy? You’d think he was an off field distraction, or bashed the city and fans, maybe didn’t put any effort in.. Nope, just didn’t meet certain people’s expectations and got signed to a hefty contract on a rebuilding team. Certainly deserving the hatred and critique 

I don’t think that’s the reason for the discourse. 
 

The reason he got people riled up is there was a huge contingent of Bills fans and Media analysts who swore he was elite, but many people disagreed.

 

It didn’t matter how many times he whiffed or what Beane said when he was gone, many fans seemed brainwashed by his measurables, age, and draft pedigree, rather than his on-field production.

 

I’m happy he got paid and I’m also happy we didn’t pay him. It’s both and yesterday’s whiff was a nice reminder.

[Jauronimo]

1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

But Edmunds was actually very good last season. Is that even arguable? I mean, come on. Opposing QBs had a rating of 69.9 against him and his missed tackle rate was a minuscule 1 percent. This is one of the dumber narratives in Bills fandom, in my opinion. Time to let it go.

Bills fans think anything less than a Ray Lewis highlight reel is unacceptable MLB play.  The criticisms of Edmunds are the same ones tossed at London Fletcher, Poz, and Preston Brown.  "He only makes tackles 5 yards downfield!" As if there was a ever a linebacker who exclusively played in the backfield.  You have to go back to Takeo Spikes to find a player that the linebacker mob approves of. 

 

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, Jauronimo said:

Bills fans think anything less than a Ray Lewis highlight reel is unacceptable MLB play.  The criticisms of Edmunds are the same ones tossed at London Fletcher, Poz, and Preston Brown.  "He only makes tackles 5 yards downfield!" As if there was a ever a linebacker who exclusively played in the backfield.  You have to go back to Takeo Spikes to find a player that the linebacker mob approves of. 

 

Is that why Matt Milano hits double digit TFL’s regularly and Tremaine has hit 10 once?

 

Theres a reason Matt is here and Tremaine isn’t. The guy isn’t an instinctual player.

[GETTOTHE50]

I’m going to watch all the bears games just so I can laugh maniacally at him 

[Jauronimo]

Just now, FireChans said:

Is that why Matt Milano hits double digit TFL’s regularly and Tremaine has hit 10 once?

 

Theres a reason Matt is here and Tremaine isn’t. The guy isn’t an instinctual player.

Every time Matt Milano takes the wrong hole in the run fit someone burns an Edmunds jersey.  

[FLFan]

26 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Lmao if you don’t think the Bears fans are gonna wise-up to this man making gang tackles 8 yards down the field. They still remember Urlacher over there, they are gonna be pissed by week 10.

I repeat, who cares?