DrDawkinstein Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 Little mini Bernard made the play in his 3rd game that I waited 5 years to see out of Edmunds... 5 4 2 Quote
starrymessenger Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Little mini Bernard made the play in his 3rd game that I waited 5 years to see out of Edmunds... Bernard is the midget wrestler who can. Edmunds would be Keuchly if he had Bernard's instincts and effort. 2 Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 Has anyone seen any reports about what his supposed "injury" was yesterday? Because my suspicion is he was benched after casually watching the Kelce TD. 1 Quote
babulator Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Has anyone seen any reports about what his supposed "injury" was yesterday? Because my suspicion is he was benched after casually watching the Kelce TD. I saw it mentioned earlier in the thread, but that play was brutal. The misreads by him were pretty awful and he just seems to lack the necessary awareness to be THAT guy. 1 Quote
Doc Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 22 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: Bernard is the midget wrestler who can. Edmunds would be Keuchly if he had Bernard's instincts and effort. Urlacher. 2 Quote
CircleTheWagons99 Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 Next Gen stat of the game: The Chiefs targeted Bears LB Tremaine Edmunds 11 times in coverage. Edmunds allowed 10 receptions, 88 yards and one TD. 3 4 1 1 Quote
nedboy7 Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 Tasked with replacing inside linebacker Tremaine Edmunds this season, Bernard has already matched Edmunds’ highest single-season amount of Sacks (2) and Interceptions (2) through the first three games of this season. 2 3 1 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 56 minutes ago, FireChans said: But isn't that the point. If you are incapable of making splash plays in coverage.... what are you even doing in coverage? You aren't really a deterrent. Splash plays aren't needed to be a determent in the passing game. There's a video in the post game day thread where Bernard passed off the WR to White and then took out the other throwing option on the curl to whatever WR was there....that lead to the sack. Taking away throwing lanes where the QB has to hold it for a split second longer is as good as a splash play. 2 Quote
Einstein Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 4 hours ago, pigpen65 said: Edmunds ***** sucked. No he didn’t. He is not worth $18M and the Bills wisely let him walk and i’m very happy with Bernard, but Edmunds didn’t suck. 3 1 2 1 Quote
FireChans Posted September 25, 2023 Author Posted September 25, 2023 23 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Splash plays aren't needed to be a determent in the passing game. There's a video in the post game day thread where Bernard passed off the WR to White and then took out the other throwing option on the curl to whatever WR was there....that lead to the sack. Taking away throwing lanes where the QB has to hold it for a split second longer is as good as a splash play. Sure but it’s not like the Scarecrow was the best ever at even that. At a certain point, these things add up. Quote
GunnerBill Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Chaos said: So you think the defense reached its full potential? Overall, yes. I just don't think it played its best in some big spots. Quote
GunnerBill Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 1 hour ago, GaryPinC said: Given his draft position and physical attributes, this is why I say he sucks. He could and should be much better but IMO he doesn't have the heart for it. He did a bit better last year when a big fat contract was riding on it but he's returned to baseline. Yea I understand it as a "relative to draft selection and contract" argument. 1 Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 Just now, GunnerBill said: Yea I understand it as a "relative to draft selection and contract" argument. I wouldn’t say he sucked in Buffalo but he definitely sucked yesterday. I watched that game and keyed on him and he literally was just standing around. Didn’t see him run full speed a single time including on a delayed blitz when he pushed into the lineman with zero violence or tenacity. Something is wrong with him physically or mentally. He wasn’t explosive here but he was better than that. 3 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: I wouldn’t say he sucked in Buffalo but he definitely sucked yesterday. I watched that game and keyed on him and he literally was just standing around. Didn’t see him run full speed a single time including on a delayed blitz when he pushed into the lineman with zero violence or tenacity. Something is wrong with him physically or mentally. He wasn’t explosive here but he was better than that. Well, he plays for the Bears. You could say that about practically anyone on the roster. They have a much bigger issue than individual performance over there. I'm sure he's happy to have all that money, but I guarantee he has second guessed it at least once or twice over the last couple of months. Especially if this bad team brings him down far enough that he doesnt get another contract after the Bears cut him in a few years. It's certainly an interesting situation and case study to watch. Quote
Milanos Milano Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 28 minutes ago, Einstein said: No he didn’t. He is not worth $18M and the Bills wisely let him walk and i’m very happy with Bernard, but Edmunds didn’t suck. He was garbage. Routinely out of place and the instincts of a snail. Bernard shooting smartly, something Edmunds just couldn’t do. 2 Quote
Einstein Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 Just now, Araiza Curse said: He was garbage. Routinely out of place and the instincts of a snail. Bernard shooting smartly, something Edmunds just couldn’t do. You think we routinely had a top 5 defense with a MLB that sucks? Come on... Quote
Milanos Milano Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Einstein said: You think we routinely had a top 5 defense with a MLB that sucks? Come on... Yes. Edmunds was the weak link holding us back. Now look at us with McD and Bernard, rather than Uninspiring Frazier and Edmunds. Total new identity that is smartly aggressive and impactful. Night and day. 1 1 Quote
JohnNord Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Einstein said: No he didn’t. He is not worth $18M and the Bills wisely let him walk and i’m very happy with Bernard, but Edmunds didn’t suck. Bills fans are a fickle bunch. First, everyone is saying how much the team will miss Edmunds, now it’s suddenly “Edmunds sucks.” Overall I think Edmunds was a good player. His length and speed did deter QB’s from throwing into zones and be covered a lot of ground in the passing game. He had his moments with run stops but it became apparent that it would not be his strong suit. He just never seemed to rise to the occasion and make big plays in big moments. This was my main criticism of him, especially considering he was for a new contract. What was the best Edmunds game? What was his signature play? I knew that he would be paid as a top LB and I didn’t think his play warranted that. I also wondered how a different type of LB would play in his spot. I guess we’re seeing this now in Bernard Edited September 25, 2023 by JohnNord 1 Quote
AuntieEm Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: Has anyone seen any reports about what his supposed "injury" was yesterday? Because my suspicion is he was benched after casually watching the Kelce TD. 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: Has anyone seen any reports about what his supposed "injury" was yesterday? Because my suspicion is he was benched after casually watching the Kelce TD. Blindness? 2 1 Quote
EasternOHBillsFan Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 34 minutes ago, Einstein said: No he didn’t. He is not worth $18M and the Bills wisely let him walk and i’m very happy with Bernard, but Edmunds didn’t suck. You didn't watch the same game I watched then... his pass coverage was ABYSMAL and he was exposed. 1 Quote
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