The 2023 - ??? Edmunds Report

[Billl]

  On 9/19/2023 at 7:48 PM, FireChans said:

Watch the games. Aaron Jones took his lunch money

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9 carries for 41 yards.

[BringBackFergy]

Has Edmunds injured any of his own teammates this year? He had the uncanny ability to be third man into a tackle and concuss two or three of our DB’s during his “Pro Bowl” years.

[Captain Hindsight]

  On 9/19/2023 at 8:38 PM, FireChans said:

If the player isn't worth a second contract, they aren't worth trading up in the first round for.

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But he did get a second contract, the largest for a defensive players ever. Just because the Bills didn’t give it to him, doesn’t mean he wasn’t a solid pick. I’d wager most GMs would take a chance on a 19 year old LB with freakish size 

[FireChans]

  On 9/19/2023 at 11:34 PM, Billl said:

9 carries for 41 yards.

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Do his receiving. Spoilers, he took a 75 yarder to the house because middle zone Tremaine picked the wrong guy. Watch the games lmao.

  On 9/20/2023 at 12:04 AM, Captain Hindsight said:

But he did get a second contract, the largest for a defensive players ever. Just because the Bills didn’t give it to him, doesn’t mean he wasn’t a solid pick. I’d wager most GMs would take a chance on a 19 year old LB with freakish size 

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Nah it does. A first round pick is an extremely valuable asset. Even more so when it’s a trade up and not in the late stages of the round. You should spend first round picks on guys/positions where if they are a pretty good player, you don’t let them leave the building. Like QB, WR, EDGE or pressure, CB, LT.

[DaggersEOD]

  On 9/19/2023 at 9:03 PM, Buffalo Streaker said:

Give the guy a break.  He's only 19.

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Next year practically making him a rookie of you think about it. 

[Solomon Grundy]

I'd rather see a Motor report 😎. 

[Billl]

  On 9/20/2023 at 12:04 AM, FireChans said:

Do his receiving. Spoilers, he took a 75 yarder to the house because middle zone Tremaine picked the wrong guy. Watch the games lmao.

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I literally just watched it.  That wasn’t on Edmunds.  Not sure why it means so much to so many on here to pretend that Edmunds is some disaster of a LB.  He’s not.  

[FireChans]

  On 9/20/2023 at 12:08 AM, Solomon Grundy said:

I'd rather see a Motor report 😎. 

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Here’s the thing. No one or very few folks were out here claiming that Motor was really this special talent that mere mortals couldn’t help to recognize. He was a solid running back and those aren’t worth paying ever. No ill will.

 

Meanwhile, the Big Scarecrow (tm) is currently manning the 31st defense in the NFL and allowing a 100% completion percentage while being targeted.

  On 9/20/2023 at 12:19 AM, Billl said:

I literally just watched it.  That wasn’t on Edmunds.  Not sure why it means so much to so many on here to pretend that Edmunds is some disaster of a LB.  He’s not.  

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How was it not on Edmunds? He has standard middle zone coverage. He picks right, ball goes left and BANG, touchdown Jordan Love. 

The Scarecrow was supposed to not let angle routes go for 75 yards.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

  On 9/19/2023 at 11:19 PM, DC Tom said:

 

Why?  He can't see the field either way.

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He's here again!

Hello, DC Tom!

[finn]

  On 9/20/2023 at 12:04 AM, FireChans said:

Do his receiving. Spoilers, he took a 75 yarder to the house because middle zone Tremaine picked the wrong guy. Watch the games lmao.

Nah it does. A first round pick is an extremely valuable asset. Even more so when it’s a trade up and not in the late stages of the round. You should spend first round picks on guys/positions where if they are a pretty good player, you don’t let them leave the building. Like QB, WR, EDGE or pressure, CB, LT.

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Maybe like pro bowler Jaire Alexander, taken two slots later. 

[BullBuchanan]

  On 9/20/2023 at 12:04 AM, Captain Hindsight said:

But he did get a second contract, the largest for a defensive players ever. Just because the Bills didn’t give it to him, doesn’t mean he wasn’t a solid pick. I’d wager most GMs would take a chance on a 19 year old LB with freakish size 

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No. That's not even close to true.

He's 31 in total and AAV. What you're probably thinking of is that he signed the largest 4 year contract for an inside linebacker, which is the most baseball stat I've ever heard in reference to a contract.

[Captain Hindsight]

  On 9/20/2023 at 1:01 AM, BullBuchanan said:

No. That's not even close to true.

He's 31 in total and AAV. What you're probably thinking of is that he signed the largest 4 year contract for an inside linebacker, which is the most baseball stat I've ever heard in reference to a contract.

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Ah ok. I should work on my reading comprehension 😂 

[dave mcbride]

  On 9/20/2023 at 12:22 AM, FireChans said:

Here’s the thing. No one or very few folks were out here claiming that Motor was really this special talent that mere mortals couldn’t help to recognize. He was a solid running back and those aren’t worth paying ever. No ill will.

 

Meanwhile, the Big Scarecrow (tm) is currently manning the 31st defense in the NFL and allowing a 100% completion percentage while being targeted.

How was it not on Edmunds? He has standard middle zone coverage. He picks right, ball goes left and BANG, touchdown Jordan Love. 

The Scarecrow was supposed to not let angle routes go for 75 yards.

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Dude. My god. A) it was 35 yards and b) #53 was covering him, not Edmunds. Hate Edmunds all you want, but please, please don’t make stuff up out of whole cloth to advance a pretty friggin’ dumb crusade built out of misguided spite. It’s unbecoming, as all crusades are. Material evidence: 

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Edited September 20, 2023 by dave mcbride

[Bills!Win!]

  On 9/19/2023 at 11:27 PM, gobills404 said:

I’m starting to notice a trend of defenders looking noticeably worse after leaving Buffalo. I think that McD guy might be pretty good at getting the most out of them.

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I haven’t heard much about Harrison Phillips, or Levi Wallace

[dave mcbride]

  On 9/20/2023 at 1:44 AM, Bills!Win! said:

I haven’t heard much about Harrison Phillips, or Levi Wallace

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Wallace played well last night. He’s not great but he’s a decent starting-caliber corner.

[Sharky7337]

  On 9/20/2023 at 1:45 AM, dave mcbride said:

Wallace played well last night. He’s not great but he’s a decent starting-caliber corner.

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He almoat had a pic too but hes been very stable for pittsburg

[Thurman#1]

  On 8/27/2023 at 2:15 PM, FireChans said:

There was a weekly “this guy isn’t that bad I swear” report on Edmunds for the last couple years.

 

After watching him whiff yesterday, I’m not sure if he got benched or what, but I’d love to hear some breakdown of the former “ProBowler” and his level of play in a Bears uni. 

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You're a walking example of confirmation bias.

 

Those reports weren't "this guy isn't that bad I swear" reports. Those were the sensible replies to those reports, which were actually, "See, I felt he made a bad play proving he sucks" reports. You were very involved if I remember correctly.

 

Haven't a clue how he played with the Bears. Did you watch the whole game? Oh, you didn't? Yup, more of the same. You saw something that confirmed your previous bias (of course, because that's what happens, it's what confirmation bias is), and so youI'll be sure post even though not fully informed, because it makes you feel good.

 

Kinda sad to still be trying to tickle your same little spot over and over, even though he's not even on the team anymore.

 

 

 

Edited September 20, 2023 by Thurman#1

[Reks Ryan]

  On 9/20/2023 at 1:45 AM, dave mcbride said:

Wallace played well last night. He’s not great but he’s a decent starting-caliber corner.

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Did you watch the whole game? Watching the game, I must’ve said to my wife at least 3 times, Wallace is having a rough game.  He dropped an easy interception, lost contain on a 70 yard run, gave up multiple 20 yard completions, and I think had  a penalty.

 

I really liked him with the Bills, and still root for him.  But he was clearly the weak link on the Steelers D against Cleveland.

 

[BADOLBILZ]

  On 9/19/2023 at 7:23 PM, Billl said:

He's got 24 tackles and 2 TFLs in two games so far.  That's not exactly terrible.

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His predecessor at MLB in Buffalo lead the NFL in tackles in 2017..........maybe this is the year he finally reaches that Preston Brown level as a tackle accumulator?

 

 

 

 

 

[FireChans]

  On 9/20/2023 at 1:41 AM, dave mcbride said:

Dude. My god. A) it was 35 yards and b) #53 was covering him, not Edmunds. Hate Edmunds all you want, but please, please don’t make stuff up out of whole cloth to advance a pretty friggin’ dumb crusade built out of misguided spite. It’s unbecoming, as all crusades are. Material evidence: 

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53 was covering Jones. Edmunds has the middle zone. He goes left instead of right, bang TD Packers.  Did you notice there was already a defender on the guy Tremaine went to go help? Lmao.
 

This is the story of Edmunds career. Large completion in his zone? Oh, well it wasn’t technically his man so it’s all good. Misses the ball in the air, resulting in a completion? Oh, it was a tough play for any ILB to make. 
 

It must be nice to be playing the middle in and no matter what happens, it wasn’t your fault. Perks of being a zone coverage scarecrow that can’t cover.

  On 9/20/2023 at 2:19 AM, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

You're a walking example of confirmation bias.

 

Those reports weren't "this guy isn't that bad I swear" reports. Those were the sensible replies to those reports, which were actually, "See, I felt he made a bad play proving he sucks" reports. You were very involved if I remember correctly.

 

Haven't a clue how he played with the Bears. Did you watch the whole game? Oh, you didn't? Yup, more of the same. You saw something that confirmed your previous bias (of course, because that's what happens, it's what confirmation bias is), and so youI'll be sure post even though not fully informed, because it makes you feel good.

 

Kinda sad to still be trying to tickle your same little spot over and over, even though he's not even on the team anymore.

 

 

 

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I watched the whole game. What’s it called when you presume something then are biased in confirming that opinion. Hmm, it will come to me. Thanks for playing!

Edited September 20, 2023 by FireChans