GunnerBill Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 33 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Honest question. What has Harty and Sherfield done to earn spots over Shakir, Shorter, and Isabella? I've not seen much from Harty or Sherfield. I really like Shorter's size and he's one of those ST guys I like that can actually play his position. Sherfield has been standout among that group. Not even close. For a start: 1. He hasn't dropped the ball. 2. He hasn't blown a ST assignment. 3. He has genuinely shown he can play outside and inside. 4. He blocks. On Harty I think it is a fairer question. He hasn't shown much at all beyond being a safe pair of hands fielding punts and kicks. 2 2 2 Quote
SydneyBillsFan Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Honest question. What has Harty and Sherfield done to earn spots over Shakir, Shorter, and Isabella? I've not seen much from Harty or Sherfield. I really like Shorter's size and he's one of those ST guys I like that can actually play his position. Harty has not looked as quick or shifty to me as he was at NO. Edited August 27, 2023 by SydneyBillsFan Quote
4merper4mer Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 6 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I think Isabella is also a candidate for that whole wait in the parking lot thing As a valet? 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: On Harty I think it is a fairer question. He hasn't shown much at all beyond being a safe pair of hands fielding punts and kicks. No drops either and that's a huge part of why they signed him and Sherfield (plus drafting Kincaid). All low drop rate metrics. It sucks we don't get to see practices to get the whole picture (closed practices) when it comes to cut down day. 1 Quote
Saxum Posted August 27, 2023 Author Posted August 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: No drops either and that's a huge part of why they signed him and Sherfield (plus drafting Kincaid). All low drop rate metrics. It sucks we don't get to see practices to get the whole picture (closed practices) when it comes to cut down day. Yeah if it was run by WTF they would charge for practices so anyone could show up and watch including opposing scouts. Quote
GunnerBill Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: No drops either and that's a huge part of why they signed him and Sherfield (plus drafting Kincaid). All low drop rate metrics. It sucks we don't get to see practices to get the whole picture (closed practices) when it comes to cut down day. Yea he hasn't had a drop. But there hasn't been much else for the money they have given him. 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Yeah if it was run by WTF they would charge for practices so anyone could show up and watch including opposing scouts. Who will be the new whipping boy now that Daniel Snyder is gone? 13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yea he hasn't had a drop. But there hasn't been much else for the money they have given him. I reserve my judgement until the regular season. At this point last year Isaiah McKenzie was Cole Beasley 2.0 in most fans mind. Edited August 27, 2023 by Doc Brown 2 Quote
Saxum Posted August 27, 2023 Author Posted August 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Who will be the new whipping boy now that Daniel Snyder is gone? Browns owner Jimmy Haslam will be whipping boy between the signing of Deshaun Watson and Pilot Flying J issue which he appeared to cooperate to help FBI in return for not being prosecuted despite knowing about scam. Quote
maddenboy Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 32 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Who will be the new whipping boy now that Daniel Snyder is gone? i wonder if this is why woody johnson signed brett favre, aka Aaron rodgers. dude. you are in the top market. you are underperforming. for years on top of years. Make that market pay, or we will find someone who will Quote
BobbyC81 Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 4 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Honest question. What has Harty and Sherfield done to earn spots over Shakir, Shorter, and Isabella? I've not seen much from Harty or Sherfield. I really like Shorter's size and he's one of those ST guys I like that can actually play his position. Shorter was bad on special teams. He didnt stay in his lane and allowed a Bear to run free and nail our kick returner deep. Then he missed the block on the blocked punt. Quote
BuffaninSarasota Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, BobbyC81 said: Shorter was bad on special teams. He didnt stay in his lane and allowed a Bear to run free and nail our kick returner deep. Then he missed the block on the blocked punt. That was Shavers who whiffed won the block per Sal C Quote
RichRiderBills Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 I doubt Klein gets cut due to essentially no one else flashing strong, injuries to Bernard and now Specter. I think they may cut Matekavich this year as some of the younger guys can take his role on ST. Kameron Cline has been a ST demon. Quote
Saxum Posted August 27, 2023 Author Posted August 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: I doubt Klein gets cut due to essentially no one else flashing strong, injuries to Bernard and now Specter. I think they may cut Matekavich this year as some of the younger guys can take his role on ST. Kameron Cline has been a ST demon. The point is he will be cut to allow someone to make the roster and be then put on IR. Then Klein gets signed back to 53 man roster. Bills have done this a number of years with players who they want to keep rather than giving injury settlements and not be able to sign them later in year per rule. Player being put on IR is aware of situation and agrees to it. Quote
4merper4mer Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yea he hasn't had a drop. But there hasn't been much else for the money they have given him. He only gets a stipend for preseason. Quote
947 Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 3 hours ago, RichRiderBills said: I doubt Klein gets cut due to essentially no one else flashing strong, injuries to Bernard and now Specter. I think they may cut Matekavich this year as some of the younger guys can take his role on ST. Kameron Cline has been a ST demon. Yeah I agree on an Matakevich. Makes no sense to pay $2.5M for a an average ST-only player. Quote
RichRiderBills Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 4 hours ago, Limeaid said: The point is he will be cut to allow someone to make the roster and be then put on IR. Then Klein gets signed back to 53 man roster. Bills have done this a number of years with players who they want to keep rather than giving injury settlements and not be able to sign them later in year per rule. Player being put on IR is aware of situation and agrees to it. Yeah but I think they signed Klein to a cheap deal. Quote
Saxum Posted August 27, 2023 Author Posted August 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: Yeah but I think they signed Klein to a cheap deal. Likely veteran minimum with signing bonus allowed. When he is cut and re-signed they can give him another signing bonus. Quote
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