The Frankish Reich Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 Just now, Jauronimo said: You confuse logic with whiny opinions that run counter to the core values of our criminal justice system. And suddenly those clever Latin phrases that you apparently don't understand vanish, to be replaced by "whiny" Quote
That's No Moon Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said: I don’t classify starting a dog fighting ring while making millions of dollars playing football to be “major adversity”. Going to prison, losing millions of dollars, and having to start over isn't? 2 Quote
GerstAusGosheim Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, muppy said: SMH this man tests my Christian faith. I am mandated to forgive but what he was convicted of reeks of evil to me. I forgive but I cannot forget. Spoken like a pittie advocate and rescuer. Which is true. so I am Very biased here. so he can just go away I care zilch nada about him any more. I'll just leave it at that. This guy should not be forgiven but definitely forgotten. He's a terrible human being who doesn't deserve to be treated like a celebrity. He should be on the NFL blackball list. Edited August 25, 2023 by GerstAusGosheim Quote
Jauronimo Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: And suddenly those clever Latin phrases that you apparently don't understand vanish, to be replaced by "whiny" What vanished? Did that even make sense in your head? Lets break this down for the slow witted: Quote A quick logic lesson: - Persons who have done vile acts in their adulthood, even if they have completed criminal sentences, should not be invited to hobnob with current employees at their workplace - Mike Vick did vile acts in his adulthood - ergo, Mike Vick should not be invited to hobnob at the Buffalo Bills place of business The bolded is not a statement based in fact. It is an opinion informed by emotion ( i.e., the opposite of logic). Ergo, you confuse logic with whiny opinions. Quod Erat Demonstrandum 2 Quote
Virgil Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 Keep that piece of ***** away from my team. When we were rumored to want Vick on the team, I lost my mind. If it happened, I don't know that I would have kept watching. 1 1 2 Quote
Just in Atlanta Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 5 hours ago, Beast said: I guess he really wanted to see if Josh Allen was truly a dog. Oh no you didn’t 1 Quote
muppy Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said: Muppy Muppy Muppy. Christian faith tells us to forgive and forget. I dont want to get into religion in here but yea.. just saying and I totally get what/where your coming from. I disagree. It does say we are not to judge. Let he who has no sin cast the first stone. So I KNOW I fall short and am a sinner. In other words not perfect. I am as human as michael vick is. I don't wish the man harm. Live his life and BE BETTER michael. Now back to football. Edited August 25, 2023 by muppy 2 Quote
Bad Things Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 Oh, and my best pal Molly also says F Michael Vick! 6 Quote
The Frankish Reich Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 27 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: What vanished? Did that even make sense in your head? Lets break this down for the slow witted: The bolded is not a statement based in fact. It is an opinion informed by emotion ( i.e., the opposite of logic). Ergo, you confuse logic with whiny opinions. Quod Erat Demonstrandum Nice comeback! So what you're saying is we have a difference of opinion flowing from a different initial premise. You think people who've done vile acts and have shown rehabilitation should be welcomed back into polite society in all aspects. I think not. It's not an error of logic. Both are logical. It is indeed a difference of opinion. We will also no doubt all agree that it is a sliding scale. No one here wants to invite OJ back, even though he was acquitted of murder (albeit found responsible in a civil trial). To me what Vick did is not on the same order of deliberately killing another person, but it does show a callous disregard for animal life and animal suffering, or even a sadistic pleasure in such things. You may invite him to your corporate golf tournament. I won't. And I think the Bills shouldn't. Quote
Blackbeard Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 50 minutes ago, GerstAusGosheim said: This guy should not be forgiven but definitely forgotten. He's a terrible human being who doesn't deserve to be treated like a celebrity. He should be on the NFL blackball list. Exactly. To you all who just know he participated in "dog fighting", I urge you to go research and read through the details. Its beyond shocking. AND to top it off, it was happening WHILE he was filthy rich. He didn't need to survive. It was "fun" for him. A pastime if you will. And he's only doing what he does now (the philanthropic crap) BECAUSE he was caught and has to, to save face. He's a COMPLETE ghetto scumbag and should be blackballed. I have a hard time even thinking some of you can defend this. 2 Quote
RobbRiddick Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 6 hours ago, muppy said: SMH this man tests my Christian faith. I can't stand Vick, but didn't God create a flood to kill almost all the animals on the planet? 2 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 18 minutes ago, Blackbeard said: Exactly. To you all who just know he participated in "dog fighting", I urge you to go research and read through the details. Its beyond shocking. AND to top it off, it was happening WHILE he was filthy rich. He didn't need to survive. It was "fun" for him. A pastime if you will. And he's only doing what he does now (the philanthropic crap) BECAUSE he was caught and has to, to save face. He's a COMPLETE ghetto scumbag and should be blackballed. I have a hard time even thinking some of you can defend this. Drowning. Hanging. Electrocution. Hung by ankles on a line and smashed with a bat like a pinata. The fighting is bad enough, dogs fighting is atleast 'somewhat' natural. Torturing animals in creative fashion for fun, is demented. Had it been done with a bolt or tap behind the ear to put them out of their misery, maybe there's a touch more empathy for the guy. Oh, and the killings weren't always putting down a dog gravely injured. At times it was torturing dogs to death, who had never even fought.... because they weren't aggressive enough. Dude tortures animals for fun. If that isn't setting off alarm bells I dunno what will. 1 1 1 1 Quote
muppy Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: I can't stand Vick, but didn't God create a flood to kill almost all the animals on the planet? I defer to God for this reply. This is beyond my pay grade. And way off topic to boot. 1 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 4 hours ago, uticaclub said: Apparently Josh Allen is so good in Madden this year it’s being compared to the year Vick was a cheat code in 04 Those were the days 😭 Quote
GoBills808 Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: I can't stand Vick, but didn't God create a flood to kill almost all the animals on the planet? Then Noah killed a bunch more in celebration that it stopped raining lol god loves it when we kill animals 1 Quote
ndirish1978 Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 Ron Mexico showed up to teach players how to get their STD results anonymously Quote
Augie Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 6 hours ago, HOUSE said: I am grabbing my pitbulls and running right over there. . Have they heard??? Are their collars a little too big, and maybe the leash is frayed a bit? Quote
JerseyBills Posted August 25, 2023 Author Posted August 25, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Blackbeard said: You cannot sway me at all in having anything but disdain for this low-life piece of *****. Actually shocked the Bills franchise would place him, of all people, into the BIlls organization, all knowing it will rub many people wrongly. Shameful imo. Damn , didn't expect this much negativity. I actually think it's pretty cool for the younger guys especially. He did his time , made a mistake when young and hasn't been I'm trouble since. Just let it go, we're all human and F up. I could see if his behavior continued, but he has been on record apologizing and admits it was an extreme lapse of judgment Edited August 25, 2023 by JerseyBills 2 Quote
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