Beast Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 6 hours ago, boyst said: Sadly, it's not good enough Really says a lot more about the others who hold such space in their heart to still hate the dude who never impacted their life beyond some fantasy game or viewing habits. People are stupid. So, how do you feel about Rae Carruth? All good with him? Quote
Kenosha2Buffalo Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 (edited) Not really a fan of this. I think vick is a total p.o.s for what he did and deserved far worse then what we got. Same time, I do truly hope he realized what he did was wrong and is genuinely sorry. That would prevent more of this horrific crap Edited August 25, 2023 by Kenosha2Buffalo 1 Quote
cv05 Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 Glad Jim Kelly wasn't around to boycott his attendance... Quote
Augie Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 (edited) 58 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Damn , didn't expect this much negativity. I actually think it's pretty cool for the younger guys especially. He did his time , made a mistake when young and hasn't been I'm trouble since. Just let it go Funny how that works. Some things just hit a nerve, I suppose. I was in early and tried to be gentle but I didn’t see it getting quite like this. Silly me. 🤷♂️ He’s done his time and paid the price, and I’m sure he does good things in the community. He’s just not the first guy I’m going to run up to, and I don’t think he adds much on Fox. . Edited August 25, 2023 by Augie 2 Quote
Don Otreply Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 7 hours ago, T&C said: If he hadn't been busted he'd still be doing it. Sometimes that is exactly what it takes to turn the page…, 2 Quote
Blackbeard Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 1 hour ago, JerseyBills said: Damn , didn't expect this much negativity. I actually think it's pretty cool for the younger guys especially. He did his time , made a mistake when young and hasn't been I'm trouble since. Just let it go, we're all human and F up. I could see if his behavior continued, but he has been on record apologizing and admits it was an extreme lapse of judgment I feel like you’re giving a free pass to abhorrent behavior. Quote
Don Otreply Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, Blackbeard said: I feel like you’re giving a free pass to abhorrent behavior. If the guy has changed let’s all let him be the guy who saw the light as the saying goes, let’s not just be the get off my lawn sort of folk, I’m certainly not going to cast the first stone…, 2 Quote
LabattBlue Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 McD, BB and Pegula all men of faith and good character, and none of the 3 thought that this was a bad idea? Vick is a scumbag and our alleged men of character leading this organization are hypocrites. 👎🏻 1 Quote
Blackbeard Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: If the guy has changed let’s all let him be the guy who saw the light as the saying goes, let’s not just be the get off my lawn sort of folk, I’m certainly not going to cast the first stone…, Some things cannot be forgiven or poo-poo’d. if this was going on as a kid, a psychologist would look into psychopathy. it’s not just bad behavior. but I do respect your opinion as much as I disagree. Quote
BillsNutHawaii Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 John 8:7 King James Version "...He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone...." A few things here: - In this "thread" I'm reading and seeing a lot of vitriol against Mike Vick. Based on the Biblical quote I just copied and pasted, I'm left to assume we have a lot of perfect / sinless contributors here at TBD. I don't think so. - Are those of you with a continuing and everlasting grievance with Mike Vick just as disgusted when your local schools are underperforming? Just as infuriated with human / child sex trafficking? Just as angry when one of our US service members almost literally sacrificed in a foreign land for no good reason? Or just "virtue signaling" at every opportunity given with an unhealthy, fanatical desire to attack others. I say, the courts have done their jobs, Mike Vick served his sentence, he's still relatively young and has a lot left to offer. He's got a lot to be embarrassed about and he could easily hide behind his money and go away. Instead, he continually seeks self improvement, works to contribute in constructive ways, all while surely knowing the hypocrites are out to get him. For that, I admire him! I repeat, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone." 1 1 1 Quote
Freak-O Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 I don’t want this psychopath anywhere near the Bills. What happened to getting guys with the right character? 1 Quote
BillsNutHawaii Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 9 hours ago, muppy said: SMH this man tests my Christian faith. I am mandated to forgive but what he was convicted of reeks of evil to me. I forgive but I cannot forget. Spoken like a pittie advocate and rescuer. Which is true. so I am Very biased here. so he can just go away I care zilch nada about him any more. I'll just leave it at that. John 8:7 King James Version "...He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone...." A few things here: - In this "thread" I'm reading and seeing a lot of vitriol against Mike Vick. Based on the Biblical quote I just copied and pasted, I'm left to assume we have a lot of perfect / sinless contributors here at TBD. I don't think so. - Are those of you with a continuing and everlasting grievance with Mike Vick just as disgusted when your local schools are underperforming? Just as infuriated with human / child sex trafficking? Just as angry when one of our US service members almost literally sacrificed in a foreign land for no good reason? Or just "virtue signaling" at every opportunity given with an unhealthy, fanatical desire to attack others. I say, the courts have done their jobs, Mike Vick served his sentence, he's still relatively young and has a lot left to offer. He's got a lot to be embarrassed about and he could easily hide behind his money and go away. Instead, he continually seeks self improvement, works to contribute in constructive ways, all while surely knowing the hypocrites are out to get him. For that, I admire him! I repeat, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone." 1 Quote
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 8 hours ago, nucci said: more cliches....players have to step up....execute the offense, impose their will, win the battle of the trenches, establish the run Don’t drop the soap in the shower 1 Quote
Don Otreply Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, Blackbeard said: Some things cannot be forgiven or poo-poo’d. if this was going on as a kid, a psychologist would look into psychopathy. it’s not just bad behavior. but I do respect your opinion as much as I disagree. That’s fine, I don’t condone his past actions via the dog fighting/killing thing, we all do what we can throughout our lives, I just hope he has got his sh-t together going forward. We need to support each other versus be aggressive toward each other, otherwise we have a real sh-ty world to live in, like the signs all around Annapolis Maryland say, “Be Kind” , 👍 1 1 3 Quote
BillsNutHawaii Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: That’s fine, I don’t condone his past actions via the dog fighting/killing thing, we all do what we can throughout our lives, I just hope he has got his sh-t together going forward. We need to support each other versus be aggressive toward each other, otherwise we have a real sh-ty world to live in, like the signs all around Annapolis Maryland say, “Be Kind” , 👍 Thanks for the great response, I couldn't agree more. In Hawaii we have, "Drive with Aloha." 1 Quote
Blackbeard Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, BillsNutHawaii said: John 8:7 King James Version "...He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone...." A few things here: - In this "thread" I'm reading and seeing a lot of vitriol against Mike Vick. Based on the Biblical quote I just copied and pasted, I'm left to assume we have a lot of perfect / sinless contributors here at TBD. I don't think so. - Are those of you with a continuing and everlasting grievance with Mike Vick just as disgusted when your local schools are underperforming? Just as infuriated with human / child sex trafficking? Just as angry when one of our US service members almost literally sacrificed in a foreign land for no good reason? Or just "virtue signaling" at every opportunity given with an unhealthy, fanatical desire to attack others. I say, the courts have done their jobs, Mike Vick served his sentence, he's still relatively young and has a lot left to offer. He's got a lot to be embarrassed about and he could easily hide behind his money and go away. Instead, he continually seeks self improvement, works to contribute in constructive ways, all while surely knowing the hypocrites are out to get him. For that, I admire him! I repeat, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone." Just stop with the biblical crap and excuses. The Bible didn’t and couldn’t comprehend severe animal abuse. “sin” in biblical term was banging your neighbors wife or stealing. It wasn’t hanging a pup by his ankles and bashing him with a metal bat while sipping 40s and smoking blunts. Wake up. Imo you’re actually doing a disservice to the Faith. Edited August 25, 2023 by Blackbeard Quote
BillsNutHawaii Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Blackbeard said: Just stop with the biblical crap and excuses. The Bible didn’t and couldn’t comprehend severe animal abuse. Imo you’re actually doing a disservice to the Faith. Crap? So, tell us what moral compass are you using thats so great? Tell us how perfect and sinless you are... teach us. Quote
Augie Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 I don’t think there is much hope now, but could we all try to focus and exercise some restraint. There is some tolerable middle ground to be found. Nobody hates what he did more than I do, but it has run its course. It’s over. Let’s PLEASE move on??? Quote
BillsNutHawaii Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Augie said: I don’t think there is much hope now, but could we all try to focus and exercise some restraint. There is some tolerable middle ground to be found. Nobody hates what he did more than I do, but it has run its course. It’s over. Let’s PLEASE move on??? Augie, we never move on, don't you realize we are always chasing the record setting "Mario Williams to Buffalo" thread? Quote
nucci Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 22 minutes ago, BillsNutHawaii said: John 8:7 King James Version "...He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone...." A few things here: - In this "thread" I'm reading and seeing a lot of vitriol against Mike Vick. Based on the Biblical quote I just copied and pasted, I'm left to assume we have a lot of perfect / sinless contributors here at TBD. I don't think so. - Are those of you with a continuing and everlasting grievance with Mike Vick just as disgusted when your local schools are underperforming? Just as infuriated with human / child sex trafficking? Just as angry when one of our US service members almost literally sacrificed in a foreign land for no good reason? Or just "virtue signaling" at every opportunity given with an unhealthy, fanatical desire to attack others. I say, the courts have done their jobs, Mike Vick served his sentence, he's still relatively young and has a lot left to offer. He's got a lot to be embarrassed about and he could easily hide behind his money and go away. Instead, he continually seeks self improvement, works to contribute in constructive ways, all while surely knowing the hypocrites are out to get him. For that, I admire him! I repeat, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone." I may have sinned, though probably not as I don't believe in religion but I definitely didn't torture and kill dogs 1 Quote
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